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spazsdad

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SECFan04

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Lets hope he's not a real doctor
34sDad

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We hear ya Gtown folks, but interview the parents?! Uh, no. Gotta be kidding....


I thought same thing.  Why in the hell would they interview parents?  It's not 10U anymore.  smh
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Can we get a Maryland v G'town DH next year?

I'd pay 15.99 for the periscope
TruDat

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They should play each other. Another busted program in that area of the world is UMBC. We could have a battle of bums. A round robin with a championship game. What's interesting to note about these programs is that they don't pay their coaches well. You certainly get what you pay for.
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How long has the MSM coach been there? I heard she was a nice lady.
TerpAlum

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Something like 8 years.
TruDat

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From what I see online they haven't done well at all.
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Are we still naming bad programs??? How about Akron at the top of the list???
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They should play each other. Another busted program in that area of the world is UMBC. We could have a battle of bums. A round robin with a championship game. What's interesting to note about these programs is that they don't pay their coaches well. You certainly get what you pay for.

Bums?  Nice!  I'm sure the girls who play for these programs and their parents appreciate this label.  Got any other derogatory terms you want to throw out there?  These girls are just trying to fulfill their dream of playing at the next level.  Sorry that their level of play falls below your standard of expectations.
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I like the term bums. They stink and are a reflection of their bum coaches.
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I think when we are talking about the worst D1 programs, we are putting 99 percent of the blame on the coaches and the athletic departments. Nobody is talking about the players. They are small pawns in a complete chess board cluster bleep!
TruDat

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That’s correct
SECFan04

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Are we still naming bad programs??? How about Akron at the top of the list???


I've heard some stuff, good nomination 
PH2

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To continue some discussion on Akron from the Maryland thread...

I found an article about the NLI situation here...

https://www.journal-news.com/sports/the-stroke-pen-has-lakota-west-cummins-college-softball-limbo/SwY2uAZTc9yThYdSXU3ZlI/

I don't know why a coach or school would not simply release a player who doesn't want to attend the school or play there for whatever reason, but the claim is that there was activity going on within the team that she was uncomfortable with and that she learned of during this past season and waited until the season ended to address with the coach, who was not sympathetic.  Regardless of her moral stance and feelings about drinking/smoking, I'll just say... good luck finding a team where drinking does not go on.  Maybe they were stupid enough to post videos of it, and most kids aren't that open about what goes on, but you can't get away from it.  My kid does not drink or party and has had a tough time with the college atmosphere in general.  It's called learning how to deal with adult situations.

That said, as I posted in the other thread, I don't know what goes on behind closed doors with that organization, but the coaches mostly embarrassed themselves from what I saw last year in a couple of tournaments.  Push comes to shove, it might be worth losing a year of eligibility to get into a better situation.  But it shouldn't have to come to that.
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While 'most' programs have some degree of these activities going on, once the coach is made aware of it, isn't their responsibility to squash it? Unless every player is 21, drinking is illegal. While a drink or small party might be tolerated, if their player drinks and drives or commits another crime, the coach goes down too. She also mentioned documented smoking, smoking what??? Pot may be going main stream, but is still illegal in most states. I just can't believe this ends well for Julie squared. Release the player and you have no scrutiny on your program, all eyes are on it now, as well as a losing record.
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From the article, it appears all of these concerns were raised after the season ended.  So, the administration has plenty of time to save face by taking some sort of action going into this season (who knows if they will).  But, whether the coach or administration should do something about the drinking/smoking is irrelevant to whether knowledge of those activities is a sufficient reason by itself for an incoming player to get a release from her commitment.
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The skinny here at UMD was that our "bully" started misbehaving on her official visit. Who knows who else was there at the same time, but I could see not wanting to go to Maryland if other players make you uncomfortable, particularly in their social media. Something like perhaps seeing the pitching coach's travel ball dad screaming at an umpire in a video, which tells you something about the coach's mentoring or the environment incoming players are coming from who are recruited from there.

 

softballoldie1

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bestprmomever - you appear to be as naïve as can be - all eyes on Akron?  Please.  
TheNarrator

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Looks like the NCAA/NLI committee denied it as well as Akron.

The Cummins family is now down to one appeal. The 
request for release form was filled out on the NLI site, which Akron denied. She then appealed to the NLI Policy and Review Committee with her evidence and that was denied. Now, she's waiting for a phone call that will determine whether she'll get one last conference-call shot at getting released and suiting up for Miami.

https://www.cincinnati.com/story/sports/high-school/ohio-high-school/2018/08/27/should-signing-nli-akron-prevent-cummins-playing-elsewhere/1109526002/
bestprmomever

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Wow, I must be right, no direct answer to my question. I know of programs that have other kids pee in cups for compromised athletes, I know things go on. Once the coaches know, they are liable too. Just as a 'free' cabin get away is a violation, coaches knowingly allowing kids to participate in illegal activities IS a violation. A softball girl in a D2 program was reprimanded when her roommates had a drinking party in her absence. All roommates were liable - she had to prove she was out of town.
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I'm sure none of this carries over to their softball team.


Top party schools in U.S., according to Niche:

1. Tulane University (New Orleans, LA)
2. University of Georgia (Athens, GA)
3. Miami University (Oxford, OH)
4. University of Iowa (Iowa City, IA)
5. Florida State University (Tallahassee, FL)
6. West Virginia University (Morgantown, WV)
7. University of Texas-Austin (Austin, TX)
8. Penn State (University Park, PA)
9. Indiana University - Bloomington (Bloomington, IN)
10. University of Illinois at Urbana-Champaign (Champaign, IL)

According to Niche, the rankings are based on thousands of student surveys, along with data like available and nearby bars; sports, "which provide many students with a reason to party"; access to restaurants; and statistics and student surveys on Greek life.

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The skinny here at UMD was that our "bully" started misbehaving on her official visit. Who knows who else was there at the same time, but I could see not wanting to go to Maryland if other players make you uncomfortable, particularly in their social media. Something like perhaps seeing the pitching coach's travel ball dad screaming at an umpire in a video, which tells you something about the coach's mentoring or the environment incoming players are coming from who are recruited from there.

 



Just because other coaches weren’t caught on video screaming at an ump doesn’t mean it didn’t happen!
Don’t blame a child, grown or not, on their parents’ actions.
softballoldie1

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Hmm - that article reports that the player wants to be released not because of the Akron coach and not because of the Akron won loss record last year but simply that she is uncomfortable that some of the Akron softball players were seen in the past on video partying? Ok, right. I’m sure the softball players at Miami of Ohio have never been to a college party and spend 100% of their time either in the classroom or on the softball field.

It would be better that the player and her confidants just call a spade a spade and stop this lame public request to be released because of “core values and beliefs”. The only thing that is different between the time the NLI was signed in November and now is a 4-43 record. We get that she doesn’t want to play there.
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The odd part of the NLI rule is that once you are there and play a season, you can be gone. You just can't leave before you start the NLI. It's silly. I get what's going on. It's 2018. When a kid signs an NLI they start getting connected to the team that's there. I see that kind of thing firsthand. They become part of group chats and the like, Instagram etc. They get an up close view of the team. Throw in 4-43 and I'll bet the comments and complaints went through the roof. I'll bet the kid has good reason to not want to go there and it's just not wins and losses. At Maryland it was the other end of the spectrum. The coaches wanted the kids out, but the kids did not leave and given their mistreatment were allowed to stay and keep the money. Then, the tide turned and kids started jumping ship, even ones who were in the good graces of the despot. Now, all Maryland can get is low level freshmen recruits and castoff transfers who couldn't cut it elsewhere. Running a team is a difficult job, but running one into the ground just takes a bad atmosphere created by a self centered coach.
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