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Heartbroken for the Canadians. They battled all week but there just didn't seem to be anything left in the tank tonight. They were flat the whole game. 4th place is a rough spot to be! Great tournament! I can't help but wonder how many more games we'll see Danielle Lawire and some of those other girls int he Red and White. Part of me thinks that very well might be last for several of them, I know Melanie Matthews has already said this will be it for her. Congrats to her on an amazing worlds! She will be missed!

Nice game by the Aussies and Stacy Porter! I don't know that they'll be able to beat Japan, so I see another Japan/USA final and I think USA wins. 
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A GREAT day of International Softball Today! Team USA had a HUGE win over Japan and Ueno! Lauren Gibson was a beast with the bat! Coach E managed a great game. Team USA pitching was solid! One more win for the Gold Medal and the 2012 ISF World Championship!
 
The Australians are playing very well right now! Big wins over China and Canada today! Stacey Porter is launching Bombs! One of the greatest hitters of all time.
 
The Dutch had a very nice World Championship! They should be very proud. Top 6 in 2012! I think a podium is possible at home in 2014!
 
Team China and Team Canada had tough losses today! Canada finishes 4th. Team China is 5th.
 
Li Qi and Wang Lan were great in the circle for China.
 
Two games tomorrow to decide the podium status and World Champion. Team USA is already in the Gold Medal Game.
 
Japan and Australia will play first. The loser get's the Bronze Medal.
 
The winner will play Team USA for the WORLD Championship!
 
A truly Great Day today! Thinking tomorrow will be better....

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Chinese TaiPei and Puerto Rico both lost in playoff first round= tied for 7th
Netherlands and china both lost in playoffs 2nd round = tied for 5th
Canada lost in next tier= 4th
Australia vs Japan loser = 3rd
Championship game decides 1st (winner) and second (loser)

And international softball is done for the year

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37 former olympians played in this tourney (None for USA)
(9) canada, (9) Venezuela, (5) Netherlands, (5) Japan, (3) China
(3) Australia, (2) Chinese Taipei, (1) Italy

2 former olympians coached for USA, 1 for canada

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Baseball, softball federations to merge

Jul 22, 2012 1:49 PM ETAssociated Press

LONDON -- Seven years after they were cut from the games, baseball and softball have agreed to merge into a single international federation in a joint bid to return to the Olympics.

The two sports, which were last played at the 2008 Beijing Games, each failed in separate attempts to win reinstatement for the 2012 and 2016 Olympics.

The heads of the two governing bodies said Saturday they plan to unite into the International Baseball and Softball Federation in hopes of increasing their chances of coming back for the 2020 Games.

A major obstacle still stands in the way -- getting major league baseball stars to play.

"Without that, we'll have an uphill battle," International Softball Federation president Don Porter told The Associated Press.

Porter and International Baseball Federation counterpart Riccardo Fraccari submitted their merger plans to the International Olympic Committee, which approved the idea in principle but will continue to review it.

The proposal calls for men's baseball and women's softball to be played at a single venue over seven to 10 days. Each tournament would feature eight teams. Baseball and softball would be two disciplines under a single sports banner.

The merger still requires formal approval from the congress of both federations.

Porter said the combined federation would operate only for the Olympics, a plan that was questioned by IOC executive board member Denis Oswald.

"That's not enough," Oswald, who heads the Association of Summer International Sports Federations, told the AP. "They should be one federation overall. We didn't say to merge just for the Olympics."

Baseball and softball were voted off the Olympic program by the IOC in 2005, making their last appearance in Beijing. Softball had been in the Olympics since 1996, and baseball since 1992.

Softball and baseball are competing with karate, roller sports, squash, sports climbing, wakeboard and wushu for inclusion in 2020. Only one spot on the Olympic program is open.

The IOC executive board will decide next May which sport to recommend for inclusion. The final decision will be made in a vote of the full IOC in Buenos Aires in September 2013.

The absence of major league players in the Olympics was a major factor in the IOC's decision to drop baseball, and the issue remains crucial to any chance of reinstatement. Major League Baseball has been unwilling to shut down the season during the Olympics.

"If they don't propose their best athletes it will be difficult," Oswald said. "If they do, then they have a chance just like the others."

Porter and Fraccari said they have scheduled a meeting with MLB officials in New York on Aug. 1 to seek a solution.

"Most people tell me that without commitment from MLB, it's not going to work," Porter said. "It would certainly strengthen our bid if the MLB says they will commit their players."

Pro baseball leagues in Japan, Taiwan, South Korea and Australia are committed to taking part.

"We have to be realistic about how MLB can release their players," Fraccari said.

The Italian proposes a shortened Olympic tournament that could be completed in five or six days, making it easier for major leaguers to play. He also raised the possibility they could be released to play just for the semifinals and final.

"I think we are moving in the right direction," Fraccari said.

Porter had previously rejected offers to join forces with baseball but now sees it as necessary.

"Our preference would have been to stay separate, but we want to be back on the program and we need to find the best way to do it," Porter said. "We've got a good opportunity here. The easy thing would be to give up. For this, we've got to keep trying."


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Posted about this maybe happening weeks ago...and now they are trying it. Combining the two into "bat sports". If approved by IOC to be considered totgether they would not have to compete against each other to be added to 2020 or 2024 olympics....and the federations would be combined with one governing body for both from now on. The softball powers said they saw it as necessary to join with baseball to make it back to olympics.

Play at same venue for 7-10 days would work since only 8 teams get olympic invite, play the other 7 teams then 4 teams start the medal round for 3 days. A 5 day schedule however would suck and require more fields and double headers each day. And the "semifinals or finals only for mlb players" option would not go over well. if you are getting the marketing bling on MLB players you want them for the entire tourney. You might not make it to semifinals or finals. Why would a MLB player fly across world to play in just the championship game and what team wants to mess up chemistry by removing players that played the entire tourney and got you to finals for MLB players that have not played in tourney.

The bigger hurdle is that MLB season is going strong in July/august with 2 months before playoffs. Teams are making a playoff push and will not send stars to play in olympics. Owner's choice. Or would baseball take a 12 day break for olympics? Tough decisions for MLB to join olympics and how they would do so. Commissioner, owners, players union and the individual players asked all have to agree.

Personally I do not like professional athletes in the olympics. They used to be amateur sports and USA got miffed when college kids lost basketball and got their superstars to reclainm the gold. Hockey followed. Soccer already does. And now they want MLB players. They created the 18U and 23U world championships in all sports (even softball). Olympics are all about marketing and showcasing the best athletes in the world...the amateur part is gone.
It is what it is. As long as they get softball back I don't care if pros or college kids only are playing.

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Broadcasters said there were people from 42 countries tuned in to yesterday's USA - Japan webcast (but only just over 1,000 computers logged in).
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Just finished

Japan over USA 2-1 (10 innings)

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Ueno pitched two games on sunday and a total of 17 innings.
She was a beast. Today was her 30th birthday.

Moultrie had the play of the tourney in the top of 8th pulling back a 2-run homer as it cleared the fence to keep the game scoreless.

International tie-breaker rules = 8th, 9th and 10th inning each team started with a runner on 2nd (or they may still be playing).

Ricketts was equally as good. Team USA pitched ricketts, traina, thomas then ricketts again in 10th.

The playoffs were very good. Canada, japan, china, australia, netherlands and USa all played good games and showed that softball should be back in olympics. I was proud of the sport once the playoffs began and it was tight competiton. Baseball has the world series and other showcases...softball has nothing with big exposure and network coverage without olympics. These ladies deserve an olympics to look toards. Make it work. Tweek what you have to to fit it in and make it financially work. And if not 2020 make sure it is 2024. Go softball.!!!!

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Final - Japan 2 and USA 1.  Japan scores on a well executed suicide squeeze in the 10th for their second run.  Outstanding pitching, especially from Ueno and Ricketts. Congratulations to World Champion Team Japan on their Gold, and Team USA on their silver.  Good night everybody.    Frank
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The playoffs were very good. Canada, japan, china, australia, netherlands and USa all played good games and showed that softball should be back in olympics. I was proud of the sport once the playoffs began and it was tight competiton. Baseball has the world series and other showcases...softball has nothing with big exposure and network coverage without olympics. These ladies deserve an olympics to look toards. Make it work. Tweek what you have to to fit it in and make it financially work. And if not 2020 make sure it is 2024. I am positive it will be back in by 2024 at the latest. Go softball.!!!!
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Nothing for USA to hang their (or our) heads over.  USA is a very good team that couldn't hit a top-flite pitcher at the critical hour.  Lots of company in that group.  With further experience and work, this team will yet succeed beyond today's silver medal.  Congrats to both sides. 
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I have the up most in respect for Ueno! She absolutely tore the place up! She may not be the pitcher was in 2008 but she is still one of the best pitchers in the world currently and one of the best to ever play the game! So happy for her! What an amazing 30th birthday present! Congrats to the Japanese ladies!! 

USA has nothing to be ashamed of! Ricketts pitched a heck of a game herself! Congrats to them on well deserved silver medal!
 
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50 minute closing ceremonies...it was longgggg......english and in french..........They did not forget to thank anyone. Now they are doing interviews and team australia (bronze) is congratualtiong and shaking hands with team japan. Thanks for a great tourney canada and see you in holland next year. I love this game!!
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Congrats to all teams! Team USA was visibly disappointed after the loss, and rightfully so. But, I've been a part of enough wins and losses in sports to know that you can't win them all, and sometimes you just have to tip your hat. Ueno was a beast today, and Team USA has nothing to be ashamed of.

Whether softball/baseball gets into the 2020 Olympics or not, I think that the playoffs of Worlds this year shows just how competitive and entertaining this sport is at the top level. Maybe the sport isn't as competitive or popular worldwide like other sports. Softball may never get the amount of support that it deserves, but it is definitely Olympic quality.

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In such well pitched games by both squads, often it comes down to who executes beautifully the suicide squeeze, and who doesn't.  Excellent representation by both teams.  Thank you Team USA for representing us well.   Frank
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phoenix,

Thank You for the data on former Olympians!

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Contrast that video with the one by the USA Swim Team...

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Go to http://www.TheFastpitchSchool.com to see the first:

TFS ALL-WORLD SOFTBALL TEAM! 

Congratulations to everyone!
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Thanks for the link thefastitchschool1.
Great that they are starting to do this.
I will post the text---


July 28, 2012-- The Fastpitch School is proud to announce the selection of the inaugural TFS ALL-WORLD Softball Team. This team will be selected every two years by TFS and International coaches following the conclusion of the biennial ISF Women's World Championship.

The team, which will consist of five pitchers, one catcher, four infielders, three outfielders, two designated players, and two coaches, will be announced following the completion of each ISF World Championship.

The Fastpitch School would like to congratulate the inaugural 2012 TFS ALL-WORLD Softball Team selections.
 
2012 TFS ALL-WORLD SOFTBALL TEAM

Pitcher                                                     Infielder
Wang Lan China                                        Stacey Porter Australia
Kaia Parnaby Australia                               Rei Neishiyama Japan
Yukiko Ueno Japan                                    Britt Vonk Netherlands
Keilani Ricketts United States                     Sheena Lawick Canada
Li Qi China

Catcher                                                    Outfielder

Yukiyo Mine Japan                                    Eri Yamada Japan
                                                               Michelle Moultrie United States

Designated Player
Stacey Townsend Great Britain
Kaitlin CochranUnited States


Coaches

Reika Utsugi Japan
Ken Eriksen United States




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Just watched video of the final. The pepper squeeze Japan used to win the game is downright dirty. You can't defend it. Great execution. Great Softball.
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Dakota - Is the "pepper" squeeze the same as the "suicide" squeeze?  I thought that execution was outstanding.    Frank
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JoiseyGuy, It would depend on the approach the batter used at the plate to put the ball in play. In my opinion there are many different options to strike the ball in a squeeze play.
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Dakota - Are you old enough to remember the "Chinese bunt"??  Since thirdbasemen are taught to read the batter's hands on a bunt, the Chinese national team started bunting with the knob of the bat so the hands would not "prime" the third baseman. I tried it and almost killed myself.      Frank
PS - Would you teach a different means of "putting the ball into play" for a safe squeeze and a suicide squeeze?       

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Frank, I think some people may and know some things that others may not understand. 
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