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jayrot

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And that was in reference to what?

I can only surmise that it's somehow related to your "dictionary" fetish.


Begs the question, which is better a dictionary fetish or a Sooner fetish?
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Oklahoma fans are awful.

Let's hope Oklahoma doesn't repeat.
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So you saying Big 12 is better than SEC in Softball?




No, I didn't say that.  You drew an inference. 

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Oklahoma fans are awful. Let's hope Oklahoma doesn't repeat.


Define "awful."

Who do you want to win in 2018?

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No, I didn't say that.  You drew an inference. 
Well, if neither the SEC nor the Big 12 'is that strong at softball'... who is?

LOL
scrybe

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Oklahoma fans are awful. Let's hope Oklahoma doesn't repeat.


That post demonstrates that you're either uninformed, a hater or simply jealous of the OU softball program for the level of success it has attained.

Anyone who has come to Norman to play the Sooners, and those who have competed against OU in the WCWS can tell you that there is no one more gracious and welcoming to opponents and their fans than OU fans and the citizens of Oklahoma.
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There are awful fans in every fan base...
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There are awful fans in every fan base...


       Vulgar fans in Hillenbrand for sure.
        Just ask the former Arizona AD now at Alabama.
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Begs the question, which is better a dictionary fetish or a Sooner fetish?


A dictionary fetish likely leads to some especially nasty papercuts...
surfinusa

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Well, if neither the SEC nor the Big 12 'is that strong at softball'... who is?

LOL


As you posed the question, you can provide your own answers.  The Big 12 doesn't field teams from all its schools.  I think Alabama was down, as was Tennessee, Auburn and even LSU (that was swept late in the regular season but still made its way to the Big Dance).  Good teams, but not dominate as they have been in the past. Florida faltered in the SEC losing to Ole' Miss whom they had beat in season play.

We could spend time picking apart the schedules of both conferences but I feel safe to say, especially after Oklahoma State stretched Florida to 3 games in the regional, that the Cowboys, Baylor and the Sooners are as worthy as any of the top teams in the SEC.  No one can figure out Texas, they haven't won anything since they signed their big deal with ESPN.  Texas Tech, Kansas and Iowa State haven't committed resources to compete for the WCWS.

The PAC 12 is a good conference but I didn't feel any threat from them in the WCWS.  Arizona State is the best in my book.

My conclusion is that Oklahoma and Florida were a clear notch above the rest of the field.  I really don't care what happens in February and March. I'm more concerned whether a team can get hot and work their way to the Finals. Oklahoma wobbled in the regionals; it served to focus their determination to get it done.  It's all about the trophy case and the final score. 

As Dennis Miller said, "That's just my opinion, I could be wrong."

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As you posed the question, you can provide your own answers.  The Big 12 doesn't field teams from all its schools.  I think Alabama was down, as was Tennessee, Auburn and even LSU (that was swept late in the regular season but still made its way to the Big Dance).  Good teams, but not dominate as they have been in the past. Florida faltered in the SEC losing to Ole' Miss whom they had beat in season play.

We could spend time picking apart the schedules of both conferences but I feel safe to say, especially after Oklahoma State stretched Florida to 3 games in the regional, that the Cowboys, Baylor and the Sooners are as worthy as any of the top teams in the SEC.  No one can figure out Texas, they haven't won anything since they signed their big deal with ESPN.  Texas Tech, Kansas and Iowa State haven't committed resources to compete for the WCWS.

The PAC 12 is a good conference but I didn't feel any threat from them in the WCWS.  Arizona State is the best in my book.

My conclusion is that Oklahoma and Florida were a clear notch above the rest of the field.  I really don't care what happens in February and March. I'm more concerned whether a team can get hot and work their way to the Finals. Oklahoma wobbled in the regionals; it served to focus their determination to get it done.  It's all about the trophy case and the final score. 

As Dennis Miller said, "That's just my opinion, I could be wrong."

You were the one who said the SEC wasn't that strong:

<<The much ballyhooed and well paid SEC isn't that strong in softball.>>

Then, when someone asked if you were saying the Big 12 was better than the SEC, you demurred, saying something about the poster drawing an inference, implying it was errant:

OUTOFZONE: So you saying Big 12 is better than SEC in Softball?

<<No, I didn't say that.  You drew an inference.>>

That prompted me to ask you what conference IS 'that strong' in softball if the SEC and Big 12 aren't.

I may have posed the question, but you provided the impetus for it -- in this thread, at least

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You were the one who said the SEC wasn't that strong:

<<The much ballyhooed and well paid SEC isn't that strong in softball.>>

Then, when someone asked if you were saying the Big 12 was better than the SEC, you demurred, saying something about the poster drawing an inference, implying it was errant:

OUTOFZONE: So you saying Big 12 is better than SEC in Softball?

<<No, I didn't say that.  You drew an inference.>>

That prompted me to ask you what conference IS 'that strong' in softball if the SEC and Big 12 aren't.

I may have posed the question, but you provided the impetus for it -- in this thread, at least



1.  Arizona, not Arizona State. 

2. No, I don't think the SEC is as strong as the hype that's spun around them. 

3.  I never said the Big 12 was.

4.  I don't think you can measure strength by conferences.  You have a few good teams that we saw in the semi-finals and the finals of the WCWS... and you have everybody else. All this bellyaching about how awesome up and down the line that the SEC is over other schools is a bunch of bull.  There are maybe 4 teams worth considering, and the rest also play.

I'm done with your attempts to do dental work on me.   I didn't provide any impetus.  You dragged the Big 12 into the thread, not me.  End of story.



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MOI? I "dragged the Big 12 into the thread"?
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Oklahoma's Melyssa Lombardi was recently named the national assistant coach of the year by the NFCA. Her new contract may seem like a lot of money to some people - but she is worth every penny - and more (and as Mr. Romero recently said, she just may be worth double her new salary). 

Here is a short article about her being named assistant coach of the year... 

http://www.soonersports.com/ViewArticle.dbml?DB_OEM_ID=31000&ATCLID=211668019 

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And here is a short 5 minute video about Melyssa's history with Patty Gaso at Oklahoma. Check it out.

http://www.soonersports.com/mediaPortal/player.dbml?ATCLID=211668019&SPSID=750353&SPID=127251&DB_LANG=C&DB_OEM_ID=31000&id=6134598 


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I haven't posted about Patty Gasso and her new salary... but I believe it is very well deserved. 
She is the top softball coach in the country right now (and by a decent margin, imv)...
and over the last six seasons, no one has done a better job and gotten better results than Patty Gasso. 

Her team has made it to the WCWS in five of the last six seasons (and failed to make it in the sixth season only when they gave up a 3-1 lead in the top of the 6th inning - in game 3 of the super regional... when freshman Paige Parker made a bad pitch to Alabama's Runyon - who deposited it over the RF fence for a grand slam HR. Even Lauren Chamberlain's two HR, in what turned out to be her final NCAA game, were not enough to overcome that late inning grand slam. 

Gasso's team has won the title three times (and finished second once) in those six seasons. 
Her team's W-L record is 329-53 over those last six seasons (.861).
Their post season W-L record is 50-9 (.847).
Their WCWS W-L record is 20-5 (.800).

She is a fantastic recruiter... and she gets everything there is to get out of her athletes. 
She also molds young women into great people as well as any coach in the world. 

Here is a recent podcast with Patty being interviewed by the Sooner's softball play by play radio announcer from late August. You can skip ahead to around 4:30 into the show - for when he starts speaking to PG. Then the interview goes for about 15 minutes. 

https://art19.com/shows/oklahoma-sooners-podcast/episodes/8d24b4a1-afb7-4f03-b413-a2c4088fc521 


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A dictionary fetish likely leads to some especially nasty papercuts...


Paper cuts might be the least of one's worries.  Lefty could tell you.
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I truly don't understand Conrad transferring to Oklahoma.
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I truly don't understand Conrad transferring to Oklahoma.


Agree 100%. I posted earlier in the summer how curious that decision was. She will most likely sit this year and next year there is no assurance she will get significant innings. While just my observation, why transfer to a school with a loaded staff when your opportunities are limited in the near to mid-term. 
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Both the Paiges graduate next year. The staff will be iffy next y ear.  You have Mariah Lopez, Mel Olmos who has barley pitched, Nicole Mendez who didn't pitch that much. You do have the #1 pitcher Brooke Vestal coming in but she'll be a freshman. Also Grace Green coming in as a freshman but she maybe more of a position player. So after Lopez the staff is unproven. And Lopez is unproven as an ace. I could see Conrad being a #2 or at worst a #3.
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Right, Eagle. Also, you never know who's going to get hurt, and cruel as it may sound, a little bit of competition for innings is healthy for the good of the team. I LOVE the legacy left by Michelle Gascoigne, who was second fiddle to Keilani Ricketts. Michelle never quit, accepted her role and stayed ready. Gascoigne was in the circle for the WCWS-clinching win over Tennessee in 2014, spinning a wonderful shutout against the Vols.  
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Both the Paiges graduate next year. The staff will be iffy next y ear.  You have Mariah Lopez, Mel Olmos who has barley pitched, Nicole Mendez who didn't pitch that much. You do have the #1 pitcher Brooke Vestal coming in but she'll be a freshman. Also Grace Green coming in as a freshman but she maybe more of a position player. So after Lopez the staff is unproven. And Lopez is unproven as an ace. I could see Conrad being a #2 or at worst a #3.


Conrad was not great at all this season. She would be an inning eater to keep a #1 rested at most.
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Conrad was not great at all this season. She would be an inning eater to keep a #1 rested at most.


Perhaps. But Sooner faithful believe in Lombardi's coaching ability. I think Lowary's ERA dropped a run per game or something like that coming from Missouri to OU. Some of that might be great defense, which the Sooners typically have. But Lombardi is a terrific pitching coach. I don't believe they'd have welcomed Conrad if they didn't believe she could be more than an innings eater.
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Perhaps. But Sooner faithful believe in Lombardi's coaching ability. I think Lowary's ERA dropped a run per game or something like that coming from Missouri to OU. Some of that might be great defense, which the Sooners typically have. But Lombardi is a terrific pitching coach. I don't believe they'd have welcomed Conrad if they didn't believe she could be more than an innings eater.


Lowery also had very good potential. We all saw that. No knock against Lombardi. She is phenomanal. However, Conrad just doesn't have that same potential to me
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You've seen Conrad pitch and I haven't, so I respect your opinion. Lombardi is great, but she couldn't pull Kelsey Stevens out of the wildness funk she fell into after a terrific 2014 season where she pitched every meaningful inning for the Sooners and took them to the WCWS. 
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Wasn't Conrad hurt most of the year? That was my understanding. Small sample size. 
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Kelsey Stevens was in a different situation.  She didn't come into a full staff.  She was the best on a weak staff. Great hitting and fielding, with no pitching.  Conrad was brought into a situation in which a solid staff exists, and there are some good recruits.  I suspect she will get most of this year just to get her arm in shape since she couldn't lift it much of last year.  Then, I expect her to compete with Lopez, Vestal, and Olmos (maybe Mendes if necessary) for the key roles the next year.  Someone expected her to be pretty good, or they wouldn't have brought her into this situation.
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OU plays 2 games tomorrow. Will be interesting to see where the freshman fit in. Really interested to see Alo hit.
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<< OU plays 2 games tomorrow (Friday). Will be interesting to see where the freshman fit in. Really interested to see Alo hit. >> (Soonereagle)

Freshman Jocelyn Alo went 0 for 2 in both games (0 for 4 overall) yesterday - and may have been the only player in the Sooner lineup who did not do well.

In the afternoon game, Oklahoma beat Trinity Valley CC 10-0 in 6 innings. Mariah Lopez gave up no runs, no hits or BB in 4 IP while striking out 8. The only base runner reached on a passed ball during a third strike. Nicole Mendes came in to pitch the 5th and 6th and allowed no base runners and struck out one in 1.2 IP. Paige Lowary came in with 2 outs and nobody on base - to get the last out.

Mendes opened the offense for the Sooners by leading off with a walk and then stealing second base. Nicole Pendley promptly singled her in for the first run of the game after just two batters had come to the plate. Romero later singled in Pendley to make it 2-0 after one inning. Fale Aviu hit a two run HR in the fifth. Raegan Rogers went 2 for 2 with a two run single as a mid game replacement. 

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In the second game, the Sooners beat Temple College 9-1 in seven innings. Parker Conrad started the game in the circle and pitched two scoreless innings - giving up one hit and one BB while striking out two. She put herself in trouble right off the bat to open the game by allowing the first three batters to all reach base (a hit, a BB and an error by Conrad). But... then she induced the Temple cleanup batter to hit a ground ball to Romero at third base and Sydney threw home for the force out at the plate - and Wodach threw to first for the DP. 

M. Lopez came in to pitch the third inning - and got roughed up for 3 hits and 1 run. 
Paige Lowary came to pitch the fourth and finished the game with 4 perfect IP (no base runners)... striking out 9.

Mendes opened the Sooner offense in the first inning by leading off with single and then stole second base again. Romero singled her home. Fale Aviu went 2 for 2 again with another HR. Raegan Rogers pinch hit and came through again - this time with a two run double. 

The hitting stars of the day were:
Aviu - 4 for 4 with two HR & two singles, 3 runs, 3 RBI
Rogers - 3 for 3 with two singles and a double, 2 runs, 4 RBI
Romero - 3 for 4 with two singles a double and a BB, 1 run, 2 RBI
Wodach - 3 for 4 with  two singles a double, 1 run
Knighten - 2 for 4 with two singles and a BB, 1 run, 1 RBI
Hannah Sparks was 1 for 1 with a single and 2 BB, 3 runs
Alexa Schultz was 2 for 4 with two singles , 1 run
Kylie  Lundberg was 1 for 2 with a single and two BB, 2 runs, 1 RBI
Vanessa Taukeiaho was 1 for 2 with a single and two BB, 1 RBI
Kelsey Arnold was 1 for 3 with a single and a BB, 2 runs, 1 RBI

Parker and Clifton did not play.

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Parker and Clifton did not play.



Are they out injured? How about Mel Olmos? is she injured?
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Kelsey Stevens was in a different situation.  She didn't come into a full staff.  She was the best on a weak staff. Great hitting and fielding, with no pitching.  Conrad was brought into a situation in which a solid staff exists, and there are some good recruits.  I suspect she will get most of this year just to get her arm in shape since she couldn't lift it much of last year.  Then, I expect her to compete with Lopez, Vestal, and Olmos (maybe Mendes if necessary) for the key roles the next year.  Someone expected her to be pretty good, or they wouldn't have brought her into this situation.


Agree about Stevens. Just don't think Conrad will be effective for OU
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