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Softballjunkie223

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? I hope so I really thought Arizona had a good chance of going back this past season. It'll be interesting how the my fair with out o toole in the circle.
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I'm dreading it.[biggrin]
Sec_fan91

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Arizona just lost too much
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I would be surprised if they make it to Supers
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Arizona just lost too much
Did you notice that after Oklahoma lost the #1 and #7 home run hitters of all time, they won the next two championships?  It is all about what Zona has coming back.  The ones that left didn't find a way to win.  What is the chemistry of those at Zona this year?
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Did you notice that after Oklahoma lost the #1 and #7 home run hitters of all time, they won the next two championships?  It is all about what Zona has coming back.  The ones that left didn't find a way to win.  What is the chemistry of those at Zona this year?
Arizona lost more offense than that AND one of the top five pitchers in the country
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Arizona lost more offense than that AND one of the top five pitchers in the country


Exactly
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Most importantly, Az has lacked the killer instinct for about 7 years now, and I don't see it returning anytime soon.
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Most importantly, Az has lacked the killer instinct for about 7 years now, and I don't see it returning anytime soon.


Need a new HC.

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Candrea is still an effective coach and developer of hitting-defense skills, but he needs higher-quality help with pitcher recruitment & development, a need that’s been lacking for the last 10 years.

An excellent pitching coach, one skilled enough to take an elite recruit to the next level & beyond, is a must-have today, but Candrea has no such coach to offer; that alone must be killing a load of opportunities. I’d like to think that he’s tried to hire such a coach numerous times, but nobody was interested; if he hasn’t tried, then I agree he should move on because he’s obviously lost touch with reality.  

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Arizona is still a Top 10 caliber program and Candrea's ability to teach and coach softball has not suddenly flown out the window.

The majority of D-1 programs would kill for the level of success Arizona has enjoyed under Candrea.  I suspect the Wildcats will be back in the WCWS sooner rather than later.
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Maybe but they got one Pitcher on staff with any real experience. So unless McQuillin throws 250+ innings without getting worn out, one of the 2 freshman better step up in a big way. Or, they could just average 6-7 runs per game. 
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Arizona is still a Top 10 caliber program and Candrea's ability to teach and coach softball has not suddenly flown out the window.

The majority of D-1 programs would kill for the level of success Arizona has enjoyed under Candrea.  I suspect the Wildcats will be back in the WCWS sooner rather than later.


I see them as more a Top 15. McQuillin will have to dominate and throw a ton of innings. Candrea is a great coach, but so much was lost. Rebuilding gonna happen in Tucson, and I don't see OKC in the future for the wildcats for 2018
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Candrea is still an effective coach and developer of hitting-defense skills, but he needs higher-quality help with pitcher recruitment & development, a need that’s been lacking for the last 10 years.

An excellent pitching coach, one skilled enough to take an elite recruit to the next level & beyond, is a must-have today, but Candrea has no such coach to offer; that alone must be killing a load of opportunities. I’d like to think that he’s tried to hire such a coach numerous times, but nobody was interested; if he hasn’t tried, then I agree he should move on because he’s obviously lost touch with reality.  



To get that pitching coach, either Iveson or Lowe has to go. This is his dilemma and I agree with your assessment.
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Maybe but they got one Pitcher on staff with any real experience. So unless McQuillin throws 250+ innings without getting worn out, one of the 2 freshman better step up in a big way. Or, they could just average 6-7 runs per game. 
What a bandbox
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I see them as more a Top 15. McQuillin will have to dominate and throw a ton of innings. Candrea is a great coach, but so much was lost. Rebuilding gonna happen in Tucson, and I don't see OKC in the future for the wildcats for 2018


Totally agree that Arizona lost too much pitching for a WCWS appearance in 2018. But the returning offense is still good with reasonable depth.

I see an outside chance of a super regional birth if the pitching performs significantly above expectations (say ERA under 2.00 against the top 20), and at least two of the incoming frosh can hit .300+ against top 20 pitching. Given Arizona’s mediocre record of pitcher development since 2008, trimming a full point off the ERA against top 20 offenses is unlikely given TMcQ’s 3.16 ERA in PAC 12 play this year. (For reference, O’Toole’s ERA was 1.44 in PAC 12!)    

The numbers:   

Group average BA of the five returning starters = .329; four of those five hit over .300, and the lowest BA of the bunch was a respectable .276 (and she was often clutch).

The five returning reserve players had a combined 88 AB, but only three had more than 15 AB. Those three hit the same at ~0.260; not bad but not great. Although Candrea is an exceptional hitting instructor, these returners will be a coaching challenge since they didn’t respond that well to his methods last season.

The incoming rookies are the offense wildcard, albeit their Flosoft class ranking of 31 is not encouraging.

We’ll see what they do in game action next week. If they don’t utterly dominate in fall ball, both in the circle & at the plate, a top 25 finish could be a reach.  

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Is this wrong? McQuillin in Pac-12 play 47.1 innings and 17 earned run for 2.52 ERA

I saw 23 ER in 51 IP in Pac. 3.16 ERA

0.93 ERA vs. Oregon State, Cal and Stanford (3 ER in 22 2/3 IP)

4.94 ERA vs. Oregon, Washington, UCLA, Utah and ASU (20 ER in 28 1/3 IP)

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Which softball coach lis leaving Arizona?
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If what I read is correct Washington should not be included in the 4.94 ERA.
Cats only gave 2 runs to the Huskies in 3 games.
The runs were against O'Toole.
washington finished top 5 in the pac, so I included them
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why not just say what you know instead of trying to be all secretive. I hate people like you.

Its obvious by the job posting for a pitching coach who is leaving.
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Bloody BS slick!
her good numbers vs. UW are in that 4.94
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why not just say what you know instead of trying to be all secretive. I hate people like you.

Its obvious by the job posting for a pitching coach who is leaving.


No, it's not that Obvious - because Arizona hasn't had a "Pitching Coach" in a few years now, and the two coaches on staff now (not including the Skipper), should be replaced, as they bring absolutely nothing, at least in the things Arizona is lacking in, to the table.
 
If I had to guess, it could be Iveson - but Lowe could easily be a target (or at least should be). 

All's I can say is - it's about time! They wasted YEARS of great offense, because they had no pitching, behind them. 

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why not just say what you know instead of trying to be all secretive. I hate people like you.

Its obvious by the job posting for a pitching coach who is leaving.


I haven't seen a posting, but if it's for a pitching coach, I wouldn't be surprised to see Taryne Mowatt back at Arizona. Candrea obviously likes hiring former players.
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Where is this job posting?  I found it...it is true.
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Righty pitcher ex Sahuaro Gina Snyder from Purdue to Arizona.

Whoopee-Do


That was more than a week ago. Candrea has someone in mind for the job already as I was texted his response to my friend's inquiry to the job posting.
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    http://uacareers.com/postings/22523


https://www.higheredjobs.com/admin/details.cfm?JobCode=176579585&Title=Assistant%20Coach%2C%20Softball
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             A parent here for the Fall games told me Lowe-Nagy is not going anywhere


Well I'll be damned, iveson is becoming director of ops and not coaching.
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I like how you deleted your comments that Mowatt didn’t have what Candrea was looking for.
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