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BillSmith

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"...while railroads that contracted out services to private companies paid their employees $7.75 to $13.00 an hour."


I know the cost of living in the SFBay Area is absurd, but...

How the heck does anyone justify wages of that rate for rail employees? Am I missing something? Is there a TIP bucket 'to insure promptness' of the arrival of trains?

$41.19/hour is substantial. But I'm wanting answers about those miniscule monetary wages before attacking perceived Amtrak bloat.

kiir-no intent on killing the messenger, just shocked at figures you posted.           

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I'll find the whole article. It may go with Durden s new thread. The point was throwing more money at a bloated government program.
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Fellow Conservative: 

Last year, after President Obama vetoed an Obamacare repeal bill that had strong Republican support, House Speaker Paul Ryan (R-WI) promised similar repeal if Republicans won the White House.

"We have shown now that there is a clear path to repealing Obamacare without 60 votes in the Senate," he declared. "So, next year, if we're sending this bill to a Republican president, it will get signed into law."

Sadly, he lied. 

The bill written by Speaker Ryan this year is nothing like the bill sent to President Obama last year. It fails to repeal many of the core parts of Obamacare and will lead to even higher premiums.

Likewise, Senate Majority Leader Mitch McConnell (R-KY) promised numerous times to repeal Obamacare "root and branch."

Sadly, he lied too.

This bill leaves Obamacare's roots, its trunk, and most of its branches. It even waters it with a brand new entitlement program.

These leaders said Obamacare's mandates could not be repealed procedurally in the Senate, but we learned this week that not only is this untrue, they never even asked the parliamentarian about it.

After this lie was exposed, they admitted that they don't actually want to repeal the mandates. This, in turn, exposed the lie that they will repeal the mandates administratively in Phase II of their plan.

The lies never end.

Paul Ryan and Mitch McConnell broke their word, failed the American people, and let down President Trump.

It's why there are reports now that the president is disappointed with how GOP leaders handled this process. He should be. And now he should revoke the illegal congressional Obamacare exemption so these leaders are truly motivated to repeal law.

ACHIEVING VICTORY

Now, it's up to conservatives to clean up the leadership's mess and deliver a victory for Americans.

First, conservatives should defeat RyanCare. Take it out back and shoot it because it can't be fixed. It's poorly constructed on many levels and is so unpopular that the best way forward is to start over.

Second, conservatives should demand full Obamacare repeal since that is what Republicans promised and that is the only thing that will fix our health care system. If GOP leaders refuse, conservatives should begin insisting that repeal be part of other must-pass legislation.

While some may want to walk away from the issue, conservatives won't do that. We truly oppose government-run health care and will never stop fighting against it.

One strategy is for Congress to move full Obamacare repeal and tax reform together under budget reconciliation. The revenue savings from full repeal could be used as an offset for significant tax cuts, and both could be passed as part of one bill with 51 votes in the Senate.

Additionally, Republicans in Congress need to assess whether it's time for new leadership. Americans rejected the establishment this past election when they voted for President Trump, and the current leadership may not be willing or even capable of draining the swamp.

Thank you for working so hard to advance the principles of freedom that make America great. Because of your efforts, we may succeed in stopping Obamacare from being forced on us for years to come. 

Sincerely,
Ken Cuccinelli II
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Speaking of fringe Cruzers...

CLEVELAND, Ohio — Former Virginia attorney general Ken Cuccinelli has emerged as a political casualty of his failed effort to rebel against Donald Trump on the convention floor in Cleveland in 2016.

Breitbart News learned that Cuccinelli, a diehard Ted Cruz supporter, spoke at the convention’s Rules Committee hearing late last week in favor of a “conscience” voting provision that would have un-bound Trump’s pledged delegates on the first ballot. Cuccinelli was also involved in pushing Monday to stop the Rules Committee’s package from being adopted on the convention floor.

http://www.breitbart.com/2016-presidential-race/2016/07/18/rip-ken-cuccinellis-political-career-2002-2016/

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I know that
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Let the Establishment GOP lock arms with the Socialist Dems. See what happens. I already fired off 3 emails in the past week warning my back stabbing GOP Establishment Congressman to vote no. I almost wish the votes were there so I could see how he played it. Rat Bastard sold out his constituents to the establishment GOP for a chairmanship. I'll never forgive, nor respect him for his traitorous actions.
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I didn't know they needed a reason but Mr. Shapiro seems to state there is an agenda.  hmmmmm

Why the Left Lies
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 It is far more important to forward a particular political narrative than it is to simply state the facts. And that narrative can only be forwarded if there is controversy over the facts. 



https://www.houstonchronicle.com/news/politics/article/Cohen-s-lawyer-walks-back-claim-Trump-knew-of-13185497.php?utm_source=listrak&utm_medium=Email&utm_term=Cohen%27s+lawyer+walks+back+claim+Trump+knew+of+Russia+meeting&utm_campaign=This+afternoon%3a+Repaired+schools+reopen%2c+Mexico+trade+deal%2c+Kashmere+Gardens+struggles%2c+workers%27+war

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Presidents never release college records. 

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Almost every Conservative inside this forum think they are smarter than the President of the United States.  He's an idiot, incompetent, ill prepared, ignorant, inexperienced, confused, and stupid.  Interestingly, one Conservative has the wherewithal to suggest I supposedly think I'm smarter than the average bear.  The double standards in here are more than incredible and they just go on and on and on.


Then the hypocritical left turned the tables, led by the kazoofreshydui threesome

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Here are some lies from the Right...

Iraq will greet us as liberators.
The Left wants veterans to die.
Rapes will self abort.
The Left are Jew-haters.
The Left is OK with children being raped.


Clearly, one could spend all day trying to illustrate what they believe to be lying in politics.  What's next, chop-low jokes?  (Btw, I deliberately ignored the "all inclusive" implication in my post because the thread title did the same.)  Anyways, I'll let the rest of you carry on while I take some big and little kids out for the afternoon.

Duaine has had an issue with lying for awhile, back when he was duaine he had them numbered. He still believes as he did years ago, that his side doesn't lie. That's a lie in itself. He's had a bad jock rash ever since this thread. Shapiro was right on the money BTW

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Kamala Harris is ready for the dem 2020 nomination!

Earned 4 Pinocchio (the most dishonest rating) from the WaPo for an intentionally misleading video about Brent Kavanaugh's view on contraception.  While admitting later in a tweet she did not include his entire statement, she did not apologize for the intentional misrepresentation.

Kamala Harris edited Kavanaugh video

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I guess you forgot that it's ok to lie......everybody lies. You'll have to find something else on her.
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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
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That was the point all along, you're coming around
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I guess you forgot that it's ok to lie......everybody lies.


Real is right!!......Freshy is beginning to get it!

This thread is about the "left" lying.........And, yes, the left lies...........
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I guess you forgot that it's ok to lie......everybody lies. You'll have to find something else on her.


Agreed - the first accurate statement you’ve ever made.

Now, run along and find those racist statements I made.
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You're not worth it. You and I know what you are. Parse those words.
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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
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I call that a white flag
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Not being able to back up your claims makes you a coward. It’s not hard at all to find evidence of that.
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Chalk another lie by the lying left.  Duaine elected this liar.

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Two problems, as covered here at The Political Insider: One, the complaint was revealed to Feinstein in July, indicating she didn’t take the matter all that seriously and held onto it as a wildcard to stop Kavanaugh, and two, the incident was allegedly consensual.

 




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"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it."  George Orwell

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They lie because the truth hurts.

If you'd bought a million dollars in Venezuela's local currency when President Nicolás Maduro came to power in 2013, it'd now be worth 37 cents

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For years the Right has condemned the Left for supporting Hillary, who they say was dishonest and used her position of power for personal gain.  Now they object when the Left refuses to support this current President who is dishonest and uses his position of power for personal gain.  If the Right is against politicians being dishonest with the American people, they have a funny way of showing it.

 

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"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it."  George Orwell


I love Orwell.
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"The further a society drifts from truth, the more it will hate those who speak it."  George Orwell


We are seeing this in action first hand. Started with the PC culture wars and is like a run away train now. Libs change meanings of words and then condemn those that disagree. They cannot counter the truth so they change the accepted definitions to make the truth somehow immoral and unjust.

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This month we'll sentence a couple more Rightists for telling lies.  I would say that's a good sign we're on the road to accountability. 

I don't know if the Right believed Trump when he said he didn't know about any payments to porn stars and didn't know about his son's meeting with a Russian beforehand.  I don't know if the Right believed Trump when he said Mexico would pay for a wall and said Hillary would be locked up.  I don't know if the Right believed Trump when he said he had no business in Russia and said he would lower our deficit.  I don't know if the Right believes Trump when he says millions of illegals are voting or when he says the FBI is trying to take down his Presidency.  I don't know if the Right believes Trump when he says he didn't instruct Cohen to do anything.  All I know is I look forward to the day the Right in general once again cares if our politicians deliberately lie to the American people.  I think we're now headed in that direction.




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 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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The lies to pass Obamacare alone were bad enough, now they are claiming the reason folks want it gone is because of the name.

You just can’t make this stuff up.
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