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3leftturns

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A listing of the Power-5 teams that made the NCAA Tournament this year, in addition to Louisiana and JMU, and a breakdown of their rosters regarding where their players hailed from:

School (Significant Contributors (SCs) per state on 2017 roster [for these purposes a significant contributor is a player with one of the team's top 9 plate-appearance totals, or top 3 innings-pitched totals]), (Number of players on entire roster from school’s home state;  number of SCs from home state), (Number of states SCs come from), (total at-bats of players outside the top 9 and ABs per player)
SEC
Florida (6 California, 3 Florida, 2 Georgia) (7 of 18 from in-state; 3 of 11 SCs) (SCs from 3 states) (182 ABs/8; 22.8 average)

Auburn (6 Alabama, 3 Florida, 3 California) (13 of 26 from in-state; 6 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 3 states) (310/10; 31.0)

Tennessee (4 California, 3 Tennessee, 2 Texas, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina) (8 of 23 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 6 states) (232/12; 19.3)

Texas A&M (10 Texas, Colorado) (16 of 18 from in-state; 10 of 11 SCs) (SCs from 2 states) (95/7; 13.6)

Ole Miss (3 Mississippi, 2 Alabama, 2 California, Virginia, Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, New York) (4 of 24 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 8 states) (308/10; 30.8)

LSU (3 California, 2 Texas, Mississippi, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Louisiana, Minnesota, South Carolina) (8 of 21 in-state; 1/12 SCs) (SCs from 9 states) (192/9; 21.3)

Kentucky (3 Kentucky, 2 Missouri, Tennessee, Massachusetts, Indiana, Illinois, Kansas, South Carolina) (5 of 19 from in-state; 3 of 11 SCs) (SCs from 8 states) (132/6; 22.0)

Alabama (5 Alabama, 3 Texas, California, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina) (8 of 18 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 6 states) (330/6; 55.0)

Missouri (6 Missouri, 5 California, Arkansas) (9 of 19 from in-state; 6 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 3 states) (241/9; 26.8)

South Carolina (4 California, 3 South Carolina, Colorado, Florida, Texas, New Jersey, Delaware) (3 of 20 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 7 states) (201/7; 28.7)

Mississippi State (4 Alabama, 2 Mississippi, Georgia, Texas, South Carolina, Virginia, Illinois, Iowa) (4 of 23 from in-state; 2 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 8 states) (300/10; 30.0)

Georgia (5 Georgia, 3 Texas, Alabama, Indiana, Illinois, Arizona) (14 of 23 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states) (228/4; 57.0)

Arkansas (3 California, 3 Illinois, 2 Texas, Arkansas, Florida, Tennessee, Georgia) (6 of 29 from in-state; 1 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 7 states) (183/11; 16.4)

Pac-12
Oregon (4 California, 2 Ohio, Florida, Texas, Arkansas, Indiana, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania) (0 of 17 from in-state; 0 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 8 states) (204/7; 29.1)

Washington (6 California, 2 Washington, Oregon, Texas, Idaho, Ohio) (6 of 20 from in-state; 2 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states) (164/8; 20.5)

Utah (8 California, Texas, New Mexico, Nevada, Oregon) (1 of 18 from in-state; 0 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (147/7; 21.0)

Oregon State (10 California, Arizona, Washington) (2 of 19 from in-state; 0 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 3 states) (105/6; 17.5)

Cal (9 California, Oregon, Idaho, Australia) (17 of 21 from in state; 9 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 4 states) (276/6; 46.0)

UCLA (11 California) (21 of 23 from in-state; 11 of 11 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 1 state)
Arizona (11 California, Arizona) (5 of 23 from in-state; 1 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 2 states) (32/5; 6.4)

Arizona State (6 California, 5 Arizona, Illinois) (5 of 19 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 3 states) (165/7; 23.6)

Big 12
Oklahoma (5 California, 3 Oklahoma, Iowa, Texas, Missouri, New Mexico) (4 of 18 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states) (??)

Oklahoma State (5 Oklahoma, 4 Texas, Kansas, Missouri, Idaho) (12 of 20 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (151/8; 18.9)

Texas (8 Texas, 4 California) (14 of 20 from in-state; 8 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 2 states) (435/8; 54.4)

Baylor (8 Texas, 3 California) (13 of 18 from in-state; 8 of 11 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 2 states) (125/6; 20.8)

Big Ten
Minnesota (3 Minnesota, 3 Iowa, Maryland, Oregon, Arizona, Texas, Canada) (7 of 18 from in-state; 3 of 11 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 7 states) (71/6; 11.8)

Michigan (3 California, 3 Illinois, 3 New York, Michigan, Georgia) (7 of 21 from in-state; 1 of 11 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (243/9; 27.0)

Wisconsin (4 Illinois, 3 Wisconsin, 2 Arizona, 2 Iowa, Indiana) (5 of 20 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (151/6; 25.2)

Ohio State (6 Ohio, 3 California, Texas, Indiana, Connecticut) (8 of 21 from in-state; 6 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (162/8; 20.3)

Illinois (9 Illinois, California, Virginia, Missouri) (13 of 24 from in-state; 9 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 4 states) (167/7; 23.9)

ACC
FSU (5 Florida, 3 Georgia, California, Virginia, Missouri, Texas) (12 of 22 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states) (177/8; 22.1)

Notre Dame (6 California, 2 New Jersey, Alabama, Missouri, Indiana) (PRIVATE SCHOOL) (SCs from 5 states) (191/7; 27.3)

UNC (8 North Carolina, California, Indiana, Connecticut) (12 of 21 from in-state; 8 of 11 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 4 states) (151/7; 21.6)

Non-P5 recent stalwarts
ULL (5 Louisiana, 5 Texas, Indiana, Mississippi) (18 of 34 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 4 states) (115/9; 12.7)

JMU (5 Virginia, 2 Florida, Kentucky, Illinois, Ohio) (14 of 25 from in-state; 5 of 10 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (154/12; 12.8)

BYU (4 Utah, 3 Arizona, 2 Washington, Idaho, Tennessee, Virginia) (4 of 19 from in-state; 4 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states)

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IN ORDER OF HIGHEST PCT OF IN-STATE SCs:
100 percent
UCLA (11 California) (21 of 23 from in-state; 11 of 11 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 1 state)
90.9
Texas A&M (10 Texas, Colorado) (16 of 18 from in-state; 10 of 11 SCs) (SCs from 2 states) (95/7; 13.6)
75.0
Cal (9 California, Oregon, Idaho, Australia) (17 of 21 from in state; 9 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 4 states) (276/6; 46.0)
Illinois (9 Illinois, California, Virginia, Missouri) (13 of 24 from in-state; 9 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 4 states) (167/7; 23.9)
72.7
Baylor (8 Texas, 3 California) (13 of 18 from in-state; 8 of 11 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 2 states) (125/6; 20.8)
UNC (8 North Carolina, California, Indiana, Connecticut) (12 of 21 from in-state; 8 of 11 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 4 states) (151/7; 21.6)
66.7
Texas (8 Texas, 4 California) (14 of 20 from in-state; 8 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 2 states) (435/8; 54.4)
50.0
Auburn (6 Alabama, 3 Florida, 3 California) (13 of 26 from in-state; 6 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 3 states) (310/10; 31.0)
Missouri (6 Missouri, 5 California, Arkansas) (9 of 19 from in-state; 6 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 3 states) (241/9; 26.8)
Ohio State (6 Ohio, 3 California, Texas, Indiana, Connecticut) (8 of 21 from in-state; 6 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (162/8; 20.3)
JMU (5 Virginia, 2 Florida, Kentucky, Illinois, Ohio) (14 of 25 from in-state; 5 of 10 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (154/12; 12.8)
41.7
Alabama (5 Alabama, 3 Texas, California, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina) (8 of 18 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 6 states) (330/6; 55.0)
Arizona State (6 California, 5 Arizona, Illinois) (5 of 19 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 3 states) (165/7; 23.6)
FSU (5 Florida, 3 Georgia, California, Virginia, Missouri, Texas) (12 of 22 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states) (177/8; 22.1)
Georgia (5 Georgia, 3 Texas, Alabama, Indiana, Illinois, Arizona) (14 of 23 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states) (228/4; 57.0)
ULL (5 Louisiana, 5 Texas, Indiana, Mississippi) (18 of 34 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 4 states) (115/9; 12.7)
Oklahoma State (5 Oklahoma, 4 Texas, Kansas, Missouri, Idaho) (12 of 20 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (151/8; 18.9)
33.3
BYU (4 Utah, 3 Arizona, 2 Washington, Idaho, Tennessee, Virginia) (4 of 19 from in-state; 4 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states)
27.3
Florida (6 California, 3 Florida, 2 Georgia) (7 of 18 from in-state; 3 of 11 SCs) (SCs from 3 states) (182 ABs/8; 22.8 average)
Kentucky (3 Kentucky, 2 Missouri, Tennessee, Massachusetts, Indiana, Illinois, Kansas, South Carolina) (5 of 19 from in-state; 3 of 11 SCs) (SCs from 8 states) (132/6; 22.0)
Minnesota (3 Minnesota, 3 Iowa, Maryland, Oregon, Arizona, Texas, Canada) (7 of 18 from in-state; 3 of 11 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 7 states) (71/6; 11.8)
25.0
Oklahoma (5 California, 3 Oklahoma, Iowa, Texas, Missouri, New Mexico) (4 of 18 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states) (??)
Ole Miss (3 Mississippi, 2 Alabama, 2 California, Virginia, Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, New York) (4 of 24 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 8 states) (308/10; 30.8)
South Carolina (4 California, 3 South Carolina, Colorado, Florida, Texas, New Jersey, Delaware) (3 of 20 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 7 states) (201/7; 28.7)
Tennessee (4 California, 3 Tennessee, 2 Texas, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina) (8 of 23 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 6 states) (232/12; 19.3)
Wisconsin (4 Illinois, 3 Wisconsin, 2 Arizona, 2 Iowa, Indiana) (5 of 20 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (151/6; 25.2)
16.7
Mississippi State (4 Alabama, 2 Mississippi, Georgia, Texas, South Carolina, Virginia, Illinois, Iowa) (4 of 23 from in-state; 2 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 8 states) (300/10; 30.0)
Washington (6 California, 2 Washington, Oregon, Texas, Idaho, Ohio) (6 of 20 from in-state; 2 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states) (164/8; 20.5)
9.1
Notre Dame (6 California, 2 New Jersey, Alabama, Missouri, Indiana) (1 of 11 SCs from in-statePRIVATE SCHOOL) (SCs from 5 states) (191/7; 27.3)
8.3
Arizona (11 California, Arizona) (5 of 23 from in-state; 1 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 2 states) (32/5; 6.4)
Arkansas (3 California, 3 Illinois, 2 Texas, Arkansas, Florida, Tennessee, Georgia) (6 of 29 from in-state; 1 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 7 states) (183/11; 16.4)
LSU (3 California, 2 Texas, Mississippi, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Louisiana, Minnesota, South Carolina) (8 of 21 in-state; 1/12 SCs) (SCs from 9 states) (192/9; 21.3)
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Oregon (4 California, 2 Ohio, Florida, Texas, Arkansas, Indiana, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania) (0 of 17 from in-state; 0 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 8 states) (204/7; 29.1)
Oregon State (10 California, Arizona, Washington) (2 of 19 from in-state; 0 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 3 states) (105/6; 17.5)
Utah (8 California, Texas, New Mexico, Nevada, Oregon) (1 of 18 from in-state; 0 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (147/7; 21.0)

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You put a lot of time into that. Thank you. Very interesting information that I'd never think to look for. Crazy that Oregon has 0 from Oregon and Oregon State only has 2. I guess there's not very much good softball in that state.
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In order of most states represented in a team’s SCs

9 STATES
LSU (3 California, 2 Texas, Mississippi, Florida, Georgia, Kansas, Louisiana, Minnesota, South Carolina) (8 of 21 in-state; 1/12 SCs) (SCs from 9 states) (192/9; 21.3)
8
Kentucky (3 Kentucky, 2 Missouri, Tennessee, Massachusetts, Indiana, Illinois, Kansas, South Carolina) (5 of 19 from in-state; 3 of 11 SCs) (SCs from 8 states) (132/6; 22.0)
Mississippi State (4 Alabama, 2 Mississippi, Georgia, Texas, South Carolina, Virginia, Illinois, Iowa) (4 of 23 from in-state; 2 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 8 states) (300/10; 30.0)
Ole Miss (3 Mississippi, 2 Alabama, 2 California, Virginia, Florida, Tennessee, Georgia, New York) (4 of 24 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 8 states) (308/10; 30.8)
Oregon (4 California, 2 Ohio, Florida, Texas, Arkansas, Indiana, Wisconsin, Pennsylvania) (0 of 17 from in-state; 0 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 8 states) (204/7; 29.1)
7
Arkansas (3 California, 3 Illinois, 2 Texas, Arkansas, Florida, Tennessee, Georgia) (6 of 29 from in-state; 1 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 7 states) (183/11; 16.4)
Minnesota (3 Minnesota, 3 Iowa, Maryland, Oregon, Arizona, Texas, Canada) (7 of 18 from in-state; 3 of 11 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 7 states) (71/6; 11.8)
South Carolina (4 California, 3 South Carolina, Colorado, Florida, Texas, New Jersey, Delaware) (3 of 20 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 7 states) (201/7; 28.7)
6
Alabama (5 Alabama, 3 Texas, California, Louisiana, Mississippi, South Carolina) (8 of 18 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 6 states) (330/6; 55.0)
BYU (4 Utah, 3 Arizona, 2 Washington, Idaho, Tennessee, Virginia) (4 of 19 from in-state; 4 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states)
FSU (5 Florida, 3 Georgia, California, Virginia, Missouri, Texas) (12 of 22 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states) (177/8; 22.1)
Georgia (5 Georgia, 3 Texas, Alabama, Indiana, Illinois, Arizona) (14 of 23 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states) (228/4; 57.0)
Oklahoma (5 California, 3 Oklahoma, Iowa, Texas, Missouri, New Mexico) (4 of 18 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states) (??)
Tennessee (4 California, 3 Tennessee, 2 Texas, Georgia, Florida, South Carolina) (8 of 23 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 6 states) (232/12; 19.3)
Washington (6 California, 2 Washington, Oregon, Texas, Idaho, Ohio) (6 of 20 from in-state; 2 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 6 states) (164/8; 20.5)
5
JMU (5 Virginia, 2 Florida, Kentucky, Illinois, Ohio) (14 of 25 from in-state; 5 of 10 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (154/12; 12.8)
Michigan (3 California, 3 Illinois, 3 New York, Michigan, Georgia) (7 of 21 from in-state; 1 of 11 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (243/9; 27.0)
Notre Dame (6 California, 2 New Jersey, Alabama, Missouri, Indiana) (PRIVATE SCHOOL) (SCs from 5 states) (191/7; 27.3)
Ohio State (6 Ohio, 3 California, Texas, Indiana, Connecticut) (8 of 21 from in-state; 6 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (162/8; 20.3)
Oklahoma State (5 Oklahoma, 4 Texas, Kansas, Missouri, Idaho) (12 of 20 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (151/8; 18.9)
Utah (8 California, Texas, New Mexico, Nevada, Oregon) (1 of 18 from in-state; 0 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (147/7; 21.0)
Wisconsin (4 Illinois, 3 Wisconsin, 2 Arizona, 2 Iowa, Indiana) (5 of 20 from in-state; 3 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 5 states) (151/6; 25.2)
4
Cal (9 California, Oregon, Idaho, Australia) (17 of 21 from in state; 9 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 4 states) (276/6; 46.0)
Illinois (9 Illinois, California, Virginia, Missouri) (13 of 24 from in-state; 9 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 4 states) (167/7; 23.9)
Louisiana (5 Louisiana, 5 Texas, Indiana, Mississippi) (18 of 34 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 4 states) (115/9; 12.7)
North Carolina (8 North Carolina, California, Indiana, Connecticut) (12 of 21 from in-state; 8 of 11 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 4 states) (151/7; 21.6)
3
Arizona State (6 California, 5 Arizona, Illinois) (5 of 19 from in-state; 5 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 3 states) (165/7; 23.6)
Auburn (6 Alabama, 3 Florida, 3 California) (13 of 26 from in-state; 6 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 3 states) (310/10; 31.0)
Florida (6 California, 3 Florida, 2 Georgia) (7 of 18 from in-state; 3 of 11 SCs) (SCs from 3 states) (182 ABs/8; 22.8 average)
Missouri (6 Missouri, 5 California, Arkansas) (9 of 19 from in-state; 6 of 12 SCs) (SCs from 3 states) (241/9; 26.8)
Oregon State (10 California, Arizona, Washington) (2 of 19 from in-state; 0 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 3 states) (105/6; 17.5)
2
Arizona (11 California, Arizona) (5 of 23 from in-state; 1 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 2 states) (32/5; 6.4)
Texas (8 Texas, 4 California) (14 of 20 from in-state; 8 of 12 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 2 states) (435/8; 54.4)
Baylor (8 Texas, 3 California) (13 of 18 from in-state; 8 of 11 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 2 states) (125/6; 20.8)
Texas A&M (10 Texas, Colorado) (16 of 18 from in-state; 10 of 11 SCs) (SCs from 2 states) (95/7; 13.6)
1
UCLA (11 California) (21 of 23 from in-state; 11 of 11 SCs from in-state) (SCs from 1 state)
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SC (Significant Contributor) breakdown
123 California, 56 Texas, 24 Illinois, 19 Alabama, 19 Florida, 16 Georgia, 14 Arizona, 13 Missouri, 10 Ohio, 10 Virginia, 8 South Carolina, 8 Mississippi, 8 Oklahoma, 8 Indiana, 8 North Carolina, 7 Louisiana, 7 Iowa, 7 Tennessee, 5 Washington, 4 Kentucky, 4 New York, 4 Oregon, 4 Minnesota, 4 Wisconsin, 4 Utah, 4 Idaho, 3 Arkansas, 3 New Jersey, 3 Kansas, 2 New Mexico, 2 Colorado, 2 Connecticut, Delaware, Massachusetts, Pennsylvania, Nevada, Maryland, Michigan, Canada, Australia.

Notable:

* ILLINOIS is third on this list.
* Twelve states have zero SCs: Hawaii, Wyoming, North Dakota, South Dakota, Maine, Rhode Island, West Virginia, Alaska, Montana, Nebraska, Vermont, New Hampshire, Utah.
* All 8 SCs from North Carolina played for UNC, all 4 SCs from Utah played for BYU
* Nine of teams have zero California players: Texas A&M, Kentucky, Mississippi State, Georgia, Oklahoma State, Minnesota, Wisconsin, ULL, JMU
* UCLA had only 32 ABs taken by players who weren't in their top 9... no other team in the same zip code. Talk about zero injuries.

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19 Alabama, 19 Florida, 16 Georgia


That series of numbers is shocking to me.
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Yes, I thought Florida would be clear by a little bit
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Yes, I thought Florida would be clear by a little bit


I know.  And even further, I would've expected GA to be a couple numbers higher as well.

The Alabama #s are higher than the GA numbers due to GT, GASt, and GaSo being in pretty big down years.
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This is tremendous. Thanks so much for putting it together. How did you define significant contributor?
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This is tremendous. Thanks so much for putting it together. How did you define significant contributor?
Thanks, trounced

[for these purposes a significant contributor is a player with one of the team's top 9 plate-appearance totals, or top 3 innings-pitched totals]

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So what does this say about recruiting? Is there a NCAA rule about how much each team can spend on chasing the best. Or is this just an example of the rich getting richer. Maybe the P5 schools have better evaluators of talent. Obviously this is like P5 football, where no one else is going to break into real contention. Just like big business, the Federal Reserve is reluctant to loan money to the mom and pop businesses. So goes the NCAA.
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?????
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I see UCLA not having to spend more than In-N-Out money to handle their entire recruiting process. LOL

And the Texas schools are saving money hand over fist from June through September as well

And the state of Arizona spawned 11 of the SCs in 2017 among the P5 tourney teams, and the Bearcats had only one of them

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I see UCLA not having to spend more than In-N-Out money to handle their entire recruiting process. LOL

And the Texas schools are saving money hand over fist from June through September as well



I'd venture to say the Cajuns have a pretty small recruiting budget as well.
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I see UCLA not having to spend more than In-N-Out money to handle their entire recruiting process. LOL

And the Texas schools are saving money hand over fist from June through September as well

And the state of Arizona spawned 11 of the SCs in 2017 among the P5 tourney teams, and the Bearcats had only one of them




I have always wanted/thought that Candrea should court and develop a strong Arizona pipeline.  I mean he missed out on Haeger and Escobedo, prob 2 of the most prominent Az players to recently play the game, and while he got Fowler, Fowler's sister went to the Cornhuskers.
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Right, but that is out of total necessity... a 34-person roster....wow!
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Bruins haven't won a Pac in the past 8 years. amazing

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Lefty, you're about 4 ? marks short of reading comprehension. Times are a changin'. Any Cali team, or any school who choose to stay in state top heavy are not guaranteed the crown. My question was quite simply, do P5 schools have a bigger budget for recruiting? If you have an answer to the question, I'll appreciate your response. Otherwise, your smart ass posts just make me giggle, as usual.
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Your post made little sense to me. Hence, six question marks. A bigger budget than what? Than they did last year? Than non-P5 teams? I mean... yes. With a bunch of exclamation points. And, what in that chart is an "example of the rich getting richer"...LSU getting kids from 9 states? What are you trying to drive at?
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Well let me see. The more out of state recruits you have could possibly mean you would have to travel more to see them. Hence the bigger budget. Some things are self explanatory.
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If you are asking if LSU spends more than UCLA, I would agree.

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The number of Illinois players was surprising.  I'm wondering if they were predominantly ex-Bandit players.
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The number of Illinois players was surprising


Went to a Mary Nutter (RIP) clinic years ago. Not surprised by the state of Illinois place on 3leftturns' list. A convention room filled with HS and travel coaches serious about their softball.

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The number of Illinois players was surprising.  I'm wondering if they were predominantly ex-Bandit players.

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Stephanie Abello (Illinois) - Wasco Diamonds
Emily Brodner (Illinois) - Arizona Hotshots
Kelly Christner (Michigan) - New Lenox Lightning
Stephanie Canfield (Arkansas) - New Lenox Lightning
Maddie Doane (Illinois) - Bandits
Nicole Evans (Illinois) - Chill
Leigh Farina (Illinois) - Illinois Bash Gold
Annie Fleming (Illinois) - Chillicothe Blue Devils
Alyssa Gunther (Illinois) - Orland Park Sparks
Carolyn Hedgcock (Arkansas) - Chill
Loren Krzysko (Arkansas) - New Lenox Lightning
Alex Martens (Kentucky) - Chill
Maeve McGuire (Georgia) - Bandits
Grace Moll (Arkansas) - New Lenox Lightning
Angela Morrow (Wisconsin) - Wasco Diamonds
Madison Naujokas (JMU) - Bandits
Sara Novak (Wisconsin) - New Lenox Lightning
Abby Ramirez (Michigan) - Bandits
Courtney Richardson (Michigan) - Orland Park Sparks
Veronica Ruelius (Illinois) - Northern Illinois Lightning
Alexis Silkwood (Mississippi State) - Bandits
Kirsten Stevens (Wisconsin) - Chill
Erin Walker (Illinois) - ECI Gold
Brooke Wyderski (Wisconsin) - Bandits

 

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The number of Illinois players was surprising.  I'm wondering if they were predominantly ex-Bandit players.

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Stephanie Abello (Illinois) - Wasco Diamonds
Emily Brodner (Illinois) - Arizona Hotshots
Kelly Christner (Michigan) - New Lenox Lightning
Stephanie Canfield (Arkansas) - New Lenox Lightning
Maddie Doane (Illinois) - Bandits
Nicole Evans (Illinois) - Chill
Leigh Farina (Illinois) - Illinois Bash Gold
Annie Fleming (Illinois) - Chillicothe Blue Devils
Alyssa Gunther (Illinois) - Orland Park Sparks
Carolyn Hedgcock (Arkansas) - Chill
Loren Krzysko (Arkansas) - New Lenox Lightning
Alex Martens (Kentucky) - Chill
Maeve McGuire (Georgia) - Bandits
Grace Moll (Arkansas) - New Lenox Lightning
Angela Morrow (Wisconsin) - Wasco Diamonds
Madison Naujokas (JMU) - Bandits
Sara Novak (Wisconsin) - New Lenox Lightning
Abby Ramirez (Michigan) - Bandits
Courtney Richardson (Michigan) - Orland Park Sparks
Veronica Ruelius (Illinois) - Northern Illinois Lightning
Alexis Silkwood (Mississippi State) - Bandits
Kirsten Stevens (Wisconsin) - Chill
Erin Walker (Illinois) - ECI Gold
Brooke Wyderski (Wisconsin) - Bandits

 

Damn.... talk about nice work
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Can you make assumptions about the cost of recruiting from state of origin?  Oklahoma had a player from the Australian Junior National team for four years, concurrently with Lauren Chamberlain.  I assure you that they did not go to Australia to recruit her.  OU has a player coming in from Hawaii.  There is no budget for Hawaii.

Sometimes, scheduling is for recruiting purposes.  Patty Gasso is a native Californian, and Californians have always been essential to her team.  Every year, Oklahoma makes at least one tournament in the California area so that the players can have their families visit them.  This past year, Oklahoma went to Puerto Vallarta for four games, Palm Springs for five games (Mary Nutter), Long Beach for two games, and Los Angeles for five games. It involved three trips, and the parents of the Californians could see their daughters in their neighborhood.  It also provides high visibility to potential recruits to visit their home areas and play in tournaments.

But, it isn't even that simple.  I keep seeing Oklahoma recruits from Kansas, Missouri, and Texas who are somehow playing AAU travel ball every summer in southern California.  Now that travel ball is picking up in the Texas area, that may subside a bit.  But, the competition has always been stiffer in the California leagues.  Every time I look at some of the SEC rosters, I find that they also seem to have California girls.  Does LSU have pitchers who didn''t begin at Stanford?

Oklahoma plays a football game every year in Dallas, deep in the heart of Texas.  They say it is a neutral site since it is equidistant from Norman and Austin.  I guarantee if you try to pay your property taxes to Oklahoma, the Dallas County Tax Assessor will seize your home.  That game is played in Dallas to get exposure to Texas recruits.  It is also profitable.
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LSU has one pitcher who started at Stanford.... so does Washington. Oklahoma did, too.
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I have always wanted/thought that Candrea should court and develop a strong Arizona pipeline.  I mean he missed out on Haeger and Escobedo, prob 2 of the most prominent Az players to recently play the game, and while he got Fowler, Fowler's sister went to the Cornhuskers.

Missed out on Morgan Montemayor too, didn't he? Lol!
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Sometimes, scheduling is for recruiting purposes.  Patty Gasso is a native Californian, and Californians have always been essential to her team.  Every year, Oklahoma makes at least one tournament in the California area so that the players can have their families visit them.  This past year, Oklahoma went to Puerto Vallarta for four games, Palm Springs for five games (Mary Nutter), Long Beach for two games, and Los Angeles for five games. It involved three trips, and the parents of the Californians could see their daughters in their neighborhood.  It also provides high visibility to potential recruits to visit their home areas and play in tournaments.
No one minds his corners in this realm like Patrick Murphy
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Missed out on Morgan Montemayor too, didn't he? Lol!


Oh I forgot about her, but she was way too huge to be a Wildcat, and she just dropped out of sight after she quit Georgia.
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