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TheNarrator

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Will_I_Wynn

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If Democrats had come up with the slogan "Make America Great Again", the Right would have spent the next several decades repeating how the Left doesn't think our Country is great now.  They would never let up.  Twenty years of "How about now?" coming from the Right. 


Are you suggesting I'm wrong about this?  I have just listed 30 examples of the Right passing on unsubstantiated claims in an attempt to fool the American public for political purposes.  What more do I need to do to back up my claim they would spin this slogan against the Democrats for more political gain as well?  Seriously, you think the Right wouldn't take that slogan and twist it to say Democrats don't think America is great now?

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TheNarrator

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Look at how you distorted Trump's asking for those who hacked Hillary's emails to turn them over.
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Lost 1 - Don't ask me any questions on this subject as I know almost nothing about it.  I was hoping some of the more experienced teachers here might explain why Gov. Kasich and Gov. Bush support this plan and so many other Republicans don't.  I was looking for some understanding of their differences.  One of these articles suggested it isn't factual in nature, it's political.  Republicans couldn't support an idea Obama favored.  Is that true? 

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Are you saying we Should or Should Not Make America Great Again?
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Will_I_Wynn

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"Look at how you distorted Trump's asking for those who hacked Hillary's emails to turn them over."

Now there's another unsubstantiated claim from the Right.  Let's see if it can be backed up.

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 Trump should be honest with the American people.


TheNarrator

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You claimed he was asking for help in finding them from a foreign entity, all he was saying was if anyone had them to turn them over.  They are the property of the American people.
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"Look at how you distorted Trump's asking for those who hacked Hillary's emails to turn them over."

Now there's another unsubstantiated claim from the Right.  Let's see if it can be backed up.





You still haven't answered how to hack a server that has been unplugged from the internet.

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“Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage.” Winston S. Churchill


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I believe he is asking Russia to cyber attack any computer, US Government or private, in order to find all those emails that were sent or were received by the SOS.  Find all the recipients or originators and make the content of the material public.  Whatever it takes to find the missing emails, just do it please.  What a sad request to make by the GOP nominee.


He was clearly not asking Russians to hack into any computer system.  They were "lost" and wiped from her server.  If they were still on any US Government or private server, then they wouldn't have to "cyber attack any computer".


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We all heard Trump ask for help in finding the emails.  He still wants them found.  Do you think Trump doesn't want the emails found and released?  Why would the press be happy if they didn't get to see them as well?

He did try to walk it back later but I it's not what he originally said.  I don't believe his explanation because he doesn't tell the truth.  You must know if the FBI has them and not the press, the press wouldn't "reward Russia mightily".  The distortion is the later White House spin most of us never even heard about. 

"Later Tuesday afternoon, Trump’s campaign tried to clarify his statements. Jason Miller, Trump's communications adviser, tweeted to say Trump was not calling for Russia to hack Clinton but to hand over emails to the FBI if they had them."

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Lost_1

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Since we all know reading comprehension isn't your strong suit. 



“Russia, if you’re listening, I hope you’re able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing,” Mr. Trump said during a news conference here in an apparent reference to Mrs. Clinton’s deleted emails. “I think you will probably be rewarded mightily by our press.”


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If we are not careful, our colleges will produce a group of close-minded, unscientific, illogical propagandists, consumed with immoral acts. - Dr. Martin Luther King


“Everyone is in favor of free speech. Hardly a day passes without its being extolled, but some people's idea of it is that they are free to say what they like, but if anyone else says anything back, that is an outrage.” Winston S. Churchill


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"Later Tuesday afternoon, Trump’s campaign tried to clarify his statements. Jason Miller, Trump's communications adviser, tweeted to say Trump was not calling for Russia to hack Clinton but to hand over emails to the FBI if they had them."


Of course he wasn't - they had to release this because the press lied about him asking Russians to hack American servers to find the illegally erased emails.

With your dishonest logic, if someone says I hope you find $1,000,000, they are advocating someone robbing a bank.
Will_I_Wynn

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You should practice what you preach.  Obama said you can keep your doctor and I gave you their explanation of what they meant.  You didn't believe it and that's your right.  I didn't accuse you of distorting what he said, I disputed your claim that it was a lie.  You believe he meant each and every American would keep their doctor and policy and clearly most on my side believes Trump meant to find those emails however you can.
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Nicole Wallace - "You can't ever stop talking about how abnormal the behavior of the leader of the free world is."

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


TheNarrator

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I just took the words of those who worked for him, not someone that "saw into his heart".

Why are you so emotional?  You should really try sticking to the facts.
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"They had to release this because the press lied about him asking Russians to hack American servers to find the illegally erased emails."

If you could find this in print, where a newspaper printed "hack American servers", you could put it on your list.  I'm not sure there's any truth to what you're saying.  Everything I read put his quote in the article.



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Nicole Wallace - "You can't ever stop talking about how abnormal the behavior of the leader of the free world is."

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


TheNarrator

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Well, you wrote it - I don't believe he ever said this:

Originally Posted by Dewey
I believe he is asking Russia to cyber attack any computer, US Government or private, in order to find all those emails that were sent or were received by the SOS.  Find all the recipients or originators and make the content of the material public.  Whatever it takes to find the missing emails, just do it please.  What a sad request to make by the GOP nominee.
Will_I_Wynn

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Show the readers where President Trump said he wanted the emails turned over to the FBI and not the press, not where his clean-up men said it.  I'm not sure Trump has ever said those words.
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Nicole Wallace - "You can't ever stop talking about how abnormal the behavior of the leader of the free world is."

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


TheNarrator

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Wow - typical change of subject.

Your gymnastics to avoid the change of name discussion are impressive.  I guess we can see now why you won't come clean.  This way you can cowardly run from all of your incorrect and dishonest posts.

At least I kept my name after my airball on Trump.
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I still think President Trump wants Russia to find the emails and release them publicly.  Just because a person around him denies it, doesn't change my opinion.  I'll ask you.  Do you think Trump wants the emails found and released to the public?  I think your answer is probably yes.
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#CheckThePresidency 

Nicole Wallace - "You can't ever stop talking about how abnormal the behavior of the leader of the free world is."

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


TheNarrator

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Sorry - no answers until you address the name change, or at least admit you were lying when you said he called for the hacking.
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As you would say, your argument is with Politico.  Our side took the interpretation from them.  Are you saying Trump claims he didn't mean hack computers?  You'll have to show us where he said that.

https://www.politico.com/story/2016/07/trump-putin-no-relationship-226282

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Nicole Wallace - "You can't ever stop talking about how abnormal the behavior of the leader of the free world is."

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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You claimed he was asking for help in finding them from a foreign entity, all he was saying was if anyone had them to turn them over.  They are the property of the American people.

Trump was trolling.  The best trolls get you elected for president and keep losers triggered for years.  That is god tier trolling.  (note the little g)

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There is no future inserting logic into a discussion with Natatat. When cornered, he'll quickly point out some conspiracy theory about you. Why he even gives a damn.........no idea. Ideas aren't his strong point, just loves to argue. I keep him in timeout most of the time. 
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The hard right is certainly passionate and emotional about their causes. But in the end, devoid of factual evidence, they are, as President Obama so wisely and succinctly put it, just saying stuff. 
Will_I_Wynn

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Triggered = Repeating "You can keep your plan, you can keep your doctor" ten years later.

Trump probably was trolling and he wanted his base to believe he was asking for Russia to find Clinton's emails, hacking or otherwise.  To my knowledge, he still hasn't said he didn't want Russians hacking into computers.  I'll accept it if he does.

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Nicole Wallace - "You can't ever stop talking about how abnormal the behavior of the leader of the free world is."

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


TheNarrator

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He never said he wanted them to, as you and the press asserted.

As for like your plan, keep your plan, it was considered the lie of the year.  Sorry.
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There is no future inserting logic into a discussion with Natatat. When cornered, he'll quickly point out some conspiracy theory about you. Why he even gives a damn.........no idea. Ideas aren't his strong point, just loves to argue. I keep him in timeout most of the time. 


Funny coming from someone that is caught lying on a daily basis and can't read.
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Definintely triggered.  costs me a fortune every year.  sunk our healthcare system for working people. 
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You don't find emails under the backyard hedge. 
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Nicole Wallace - "You can't ever stop talking about how abnormal the behavior of the leader of the free world is."

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


TheNarrator

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Not after they are wiped, with a cloth
Will_I_Wynn

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I see we're about to see another guilty plea.  Reminds me when the Right called the Obama Administration the most corrupt ever.  I'd put that on my list but this is more of an unsubstantiated opinion, born from deep seeded anger, than it is an attempt to dupe the American people.  Americans are used to parties badmouthing the other side.  What I hope Americans won't stand for is false and/or unsubstantiated claims, particularly from their White House, being deliberately pushed upon them.

I can't say how grateful I am our first black President didn't have all this corruption around him.  We should be proud how Obama didn't rip security clearances from former intelligence officials, call US attorneys investigating Russian interference "thugs", call protesters "SOB's", or describe Congressional members as having low IQ's or of being stupid.  If our first black President had done any of the above, we'd probably still be in the midst of great turmoil, if not all out civil war, today.  President Obama said he had a phone and a pen, and that alone almost drove the Right to the brink.  Imagine if he was tweeting and attacking like this President does on a daily basis.  Of course the odds of our first black President, or any President for that matter, leading over the US in this manner was probably one in ten thousand.  You see, even if chances are only .01%, it means it can happen.

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#CheckThePresidency 

Nicole Wallace - "You can't ever stop talking about how abnormal the behavior of the leader of the free world is."

 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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