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sbmom1812

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JG your post is a perfect example of what I didnt say, but way to try and manipulate.  You might look at your own reality manipulating other peoples words.
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"Is this pure speculation to make a point,....."

Google, Romney exposed, and watch the video...The Benghazi part is towards the end of it....


Bluedog, really? In spite of your religious zealotry, I have always thought you were thoughtful and intellectually astute. You had never previously (that I recall) indicated that you were a 911 truther. Really?

BTW, did you happen to notice that much of the information spewed in that garbage YouTube video you reference is factually inaccurate?

I'm really stunned that anyone could be influenced by such obvious garbage.

I guess this is how we ended us with Obama as president, not once, but twice. Fool me once...
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Who wants to trust our money to people who just throw money at things and think they will get their way?


LMAO, like the 'stimulus' package that did not stimulate.  Get ready for stimulus part II.  Another 6 trillion in debt.  dinger I bet your credit cards are maxed out aren't they?

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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sbmom - if Obama "bought" his votes, then you should be glad that he was elected and not the candidate that was funded by a few very wealthy individuals. His money was spent more efficiently and wisely than the Rove types. Who wants to trust our money to people who just throw money at things and think they will get their way?

I would prefer a candidate funded by individuals rather than our tax dollars by way of kickbacks from stimulus money via unions and government loans to failed green companies.
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Any system that allows unlimited and annonymous spending on campaigns is broken.
I prefer a system that allows for a maximum amount a campaign can spend plus limited time for ads. Put all the flyers and posters up you want but billboards and commercials etc. are limited and equal.
The most qualified person is able to run and compete and not be limited by their wallet...or like this year you have many republican candidates drop out because they couldn't afford to stay in. And billionaires should not dictate the election for their candidate forming superpacs and bombarding the public with their wallet.

And now is the time to implement voter id laws. People have 4 years to become compliant. No excuses and since it is done now it isn't biased and does not benefit either party since the election is 4 years away.

And no voting in primaries unless you are registered as that party.

And invite major 3rd party candidates to debates. Just the top 1 or 2 of them.

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Any system that allows unlimited and annonymous spending on campaigns is broken.
I prefer a system that allows for a maximum amount a campaign can spend plus limited time for ads. Put all the flyers and posters up you want but billboards and commercials etc. are limited and equal.
The most qualified person is able to run and compete and not be limited by their wallet...or like this year you have many republican candidates drop out because they couldn't afford to stay in. And billionaires should not dictate the election for their candidate forming superpacs and bombarding the public with their wallet.

And now is the time to implement voter id laws. People have 4 years to become compliant. No excuses and since it is done now it isn't biased and does not benefit either party since the election is 4 years away.

And no voting in primaries unless you are registered as that party.

And invite major 3rd party candidates to debates. Just the top 1 or 2 of them.


Disagree with none of that. 

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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"Bluedog, really?.........BTW, did you happen to notice that much of the information spewed in that garbage YouTube video you reference is factually inaccurate?"

Yes, but how 'bout the rest?

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Real - Please note that in the article the writer pointed out that there has been a 43% growth in the population of Latinos.  I have read that by 2050 Latinos will be the largest percentage population in the USA.  I shall be checking it all out from my paradise after earthen Florida.  That brings me to an interesting question.  What do you think of statehood for Puerto Rico?  My friends from Puerto Rico tell me that PR needs either statehood or a Socialist dictator like Hugo Chavez as PR has lost its identity.  The recent vote in PR for statehood was confusing but seemed to favor statehood, but without the leading campaigner for statehood who was defeated in election.  PR is in turmoil, it seems.  They complain of a loss of ethnic identity (pride in values and morals) to the "bling" and "greed is good" mentality of "los gringos" (colonials).  Gee, sound familiar !!  What is your take?     Frank


Joisey, I so noted your reference to the Latino vote in your post.

Interesting events you bring up about Puerto Rico.  Let them in these United States.  Is there a good reason they shouldn't be allowed?  On another note, Hawaii would probably trade them for their independence.  Those are some proud people.

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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What type of America are we now?  I've tried to give some time before I responded and yet, the more I think about it, the more I've come to agree with the "makers and takers" analogy.  I've really tried to think otherwise.  I've thought long and hard about the President's remark about getting "revenge."  The more I think about it, it is revenge against the "haves."   Redistribution of wealth that the President has said was his mission is what we have to look forward to.  This government will attempt to be even more invasive in our lives.  The House will slow that process.  We will have gridlock but I hope that we avoid the fiscal cliff. 

I do hold out hope that President Obama realizes that his "greatness" now involves Obamacare and, despite liberal support, it is not popular in much of this country.  Therefore, his true legacy is average at best.  Perhaps he might see that since he no longer has to be the Campaigner in Chief, he can now be the President and actually facilitate true change that the majority of American desire.  Four more year for President Obama also means that he will be judged harsher for 8 years of leadership and accomplishment.  We will see what awaits our great nation.  As I did the last election, I would point out that President Obama is our President.  That would be the President of the United States.  He said that he didn't see Red or Blue but rather Americans.  I hope he walks the walk. 


Glad you came back after a couple of days Coach, I know 10er is biting his tongue errrrr, keyboard also.  Look at the metropolitan voting maps of the U.S. in this election.  States that went blue, went blue by taking almost 100% metropolitan precincts and counties.  The "makers and takers" is dead on Coach and it seems so surreal to me.

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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He said that he didn't see Red or Blue but rather Americans.  I hope he walks the walk. 


Your time is better spent watching grass grow than spending any time waiting for this to happen - 'cause it ain't gonna.
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Dinger, interesting you talk about Rove but say nothing about Soros who has megabucks compared to Rove and most repub elites.  Soros pretty much funds media matters that even gets taxpayer money.  Talk about BS?   Dont even go there.   
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Good point Susan. Please reply Dinger, or whatever handle you choose. How does Soros come into play with the Obama administration? Any thoughts? To what effect does Media Matters enter into the politics of the USA? Where does the funding come from? Care to wax philisohical?
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You Liberals crying for open borders for the most part, don't live on the border. You are therefore insulated from illegal immigration. You are immune from the local costs involved, both economic, and in lives lost. So unless you live down here, and bear the burden, STFU about "immigration reform". You know nothing, and are better suited to eating bandwidth and scones at a Starbucks than telling me what I should feel. Arrogant Pissants.

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Folks, there's no point in talking about how Republicans can get a president elected. It can't happen. Read de Tocqueville. The rising tide of immigrants, the increasing numbers of people dependent on the government for their basic needs means that America as we once knew it is now lost. A true conservative can never be elected because only we conservatives understand that the only way out of this abyss is through sacrifice. This is the problem that is now convulsing Europe - there are more takers than providers and it's not sustainable because the providers have had enough and are finding other parts of the world in which to live.

I won't say that Obama is a socialist because it sets off too much unnecessary discussion. But he is certainly a statist in that he believes all moral authority comes from the state rather than from God. The founders of this once great country knew that true freedom and liberty come from the graces of God. That is why, in ironic fashion, they insisted that government not dictate to the people which religion they must follow. As a country we have lost our moral compass and those that spout off about separation of church and state either don't understand what is meant by the First Amendment or willfully choose to ignore its meaning.

Sorry to be such a downer but this is truly how I feel.
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Think this sums it up pretty well unfortunately.

http://www.theblaze.com/contributor/tiffanygabbay

The article entitled Now its us and them.  

How do you feel about it?

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Susan -  What is this "Blaze" thing?  The article reads like a Notre Dame football hater explaining everything that could possibly be wrong with Notre Dame. It is an unbelievably negative and biased look at the Obama group with a negative spin of every aspect of their situation or actions.  However, it should bring glee to the hearts of some of the "haters" who really dislike Obama either personally or as the icon of an administration and who are angry about the results of the national election recently held.  I'm surprised that the article didn't mention some dislike of Obama physically, for example that he isn't tall enough to be President.   Frank 
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Frank, The Blaze is Glenn Beck's website
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But don't let that stop you from hating on it.
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Interesting Quotes from a famous Democrat:



  • "...the belief that the rights of man come not from the generosity of the state, but from the hand of God."
  • "Let the word go forth.....that the torch has been passed to a new generation of Americans."
  • "Let every nation know... that we shall pay any price, bear any burden, meet any hardship, support any friend, oppose any foe, to assure the survival and the success of liberty."
  • "The world is very different now. For man holds in his mortal hands the power to abolish all forms of human poverty and all forms of human life."
  • "Let us never negotiate out of fear. But let us never fear to negotiate."
  • "For only when our arms are sufficient beyond doubt can we be certain beyond doubt that they will never be employed."
  • "All this will not be finished in the first 100 days. Nor will it be finished in the first 1,000 days, nor in the life of this Administration, nor even perhaps in our lifetime on this planet. But let us begin."
  • "...let us go forth to lead the land we love, asking His blessing and His help, but knowing that here on earth God's work must truly be our own."

 


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A little reality for both my democratic and republican friends.
The national debt is $16,000,000,000,000 (16 trillion) this is the last time I use 0's
Under the current administration the debt has increased 5 trillion dollars.
That is and average increase of 1.25 trillion dollars per year.
Now for the fun part in 2009 263,000 people made $1 million +
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let's say we have each of them pay and additional $1 million in taxes
Some then would be paying 100% tax rate and others obviously less.
But we would collect $263 Billion in additional taxes (thats a lot)

Does anyone know what we currently pay in interest on the $16 trillion that we owe? At 2% we owe $320 billion per year. A lot of this is paid to China!

So by raising the tax rate to 100% on some of the 2% we still cannot pay the yearly interest that is due on the countries debt.

$320,000,000,000 Yearly Interest on the National Debt
(263,000,000,000) Addtional tax collected from tax increase
$57,000,000,000 Billion shortage on paying just our interest

By the way we still have not addressed the 1.25 trillion that will be added to the national debt annually with our current spending rate.

That my friend is a problem!! Neither party wants to address this.
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We know all that and several repeated it here throughout the campaign, you should have been here, but thanks for reminding us screwjob.  We know it won't matter how much they tax the wealthy, they just want to do it anyways to get some more revenge..  That will teach those entrepreneurs for being so damn successful, we'll teach them.  We will tax them so they take their companies overseas and lay what American employees they had off from their jobs.  The 'makers and takers' at it again. 

dewey had great news for all of us, this debt issue won't be resolved in our lifetime.  He liked the idea of kicking the can down the road.  Just as long as they can tax the hell out of the rich, they are happy democrats.

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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I would say the whole country needs to move to Colorado. Because we all must be high if we think that he is only going to raise the taxes on the top 2% and balance this budget.  All of these debates have been nothing but "Hot Smoke", from both parties, and when the smoke clears we will still see this Abyss of debt that no one can truly fix. Businesses cannot operate this way and stay alive  and neither can a country. Some eyes will be opened when the Bush tax cuts end this year.....the biggest tax increase we have ever seen is going to hit us like a ton of bricks! I don't care if you're high, middle or low class, we're all going to be "no class" after the impact of the next 4 years.......God Bless us all!!
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Boehner has said he wants to build a "bridge" to gets us past the fiscal cliff and then work on "major solutions" in 2013. I'm sorry but that doesn't cut it. The fiscal cliff was created to force legislators to deal with the financial problems they created. Now he proposes kicking the can further down the road. He is the House leader, he needs to start leading. Everything these guys in Washington are doing, on both sides, is passing the buck to the next generation. Our generation created this mess, our generation needs to clean it up. A bridge to deal with it later is not the kind of leadership I'm looking for from my party. Hopefully Obama has something better. Somebody has to start taking responsibility.
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2 things that the fiscal cliff will kick in that should be implemented immediately, without further adieu

  • End of Bush era tax cuts, do it now on all of us, the sacrifice has to be made.
  • End of emergency unemployment, do it now.  99 weeks is ridiculous, I 'enjoyed' (1) 26 week UE run as a maximum long, long ago.  It does not take 2 years to find a job
Hire Mitt Romney as the Business Czar if obama needs clues how to get the economy moving

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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If you came home and found out that your spouse had maxed out all of your credit cards would you apply for more credit cards "increase taxes" or would you talk to him/her about their spending "produce a balance budget"?  The obvious answer doesn't require significant intellect, but does require a litttle common sense and a willingness to fix an obvious problem.  Sadly, neither side seems to want to make the tough decisions and we're sliding closer and closer to that proverbial fiscal cliff.
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Election is over.  Quit believing all the garbage that is out there and figure out how to get your candidate elected. (I think the numbers speak for themselves - but then again, arithmetic isn't the right's strongest subject).



dinger, is the POTUS the only election you focus on?  You talk about the numbers, how about the number that 30/50 Governors are Republican?  I know you saw the numbers where those states with Republican governors is where the job growth was.  How about that the House of Representatives [of the People] is controlled by Republicans?  The numbers do indeed speak for themselves, but it's more about the 47% that Mitt was talking about.  It's all such a sad reflection of Americans as takers, who cannot care for themselves.  We are such a spineless, needy, country of beggars.  

 The whining I have seen is from New York and New Jersey, whining and waiting on the government to come save them.  Now that's some whiners there.  Maybe their governors can have obama come down again and tell them it will all be ok, just hang in there.

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Kir, I am not particularly a fan of Boehner, but in his defense, if you are truly gonna do reform of the tax code, the ins and outs cant be ironed out in basically about a month because of the two holidays.  How long did it take to do obamacare and they werent even fighting the opposite party.  I totally agree both sides have been kicking the can down the road, but that is alot of times a strategy to keep the issue there for another election, just like immigration problems.  The taxpayers always pay for their political BS, but most of em could give a crap!
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What kind of nation are we? We are a mixture of peoples and cultures. We are a nation divided, only drawn together under extremely tragic circumstances, or random acts of kindness to a stranger in need. We are a nation that is being manipulated by politicians, the news media that serves the politicians, and political pundits, that are used by both the aforementioned, to be the mouthpieces of the political parties. Many of hese people and orginazations, have fostered the image of a progressive, all inclusive party on one side of the aisle, and an oppresive, racist bigoted party on the other. This is the demise of our country. Racism is a hollow shell of what it once was. The new seperation of our population, is defined by economic means, and class distinction. In other words, there are the haves and the have not's. It doesn't matter your race, or culture, if you have enough money to survive in a comfortable fashion, you are on one side of the fence. If you are poor, and cannot provide for yourself and your family, you are on the other side. This is the economic divide. If you are intelligent, or intelligent and educated, you will likely achieve economic security by the value of your intelligence, and or education. If you are stupid, "not ignorant" which would imply the ability to learn, but stupid, you are likely to be uneducated, and not have any of the qualities that would allow you to achieve any economic security. It is not racial, it is economic. The next divide is class. Whether you were born with silver spoon, or climbed out of the bottom of the economic fighting pit, your intelligence is what got you there, and it is likely that your circle of friends and aquaintances are intelligent as well. Those that remain in the pit, are either stupid, or lack any motivation to scale the walls, and obtain economic security. Enter the politician, whom throws economic scraps into the pit, and secures voters. Enter the politicians mouthpiece on the media outlets programming. They tell those in the pit that they are being denied by those that look down into the pit they were born above, or emerged from, through hard work, and determination. Those that stand on solid ground above the pit look at those in the pit as unwilling to struggle and climb the walls. Their politicians decry higher taxes to feed the scraps into the pit, and the politicians mouth piece describes the pit dwellers as lazy moochers. This is what we are as a nation. A group that has economic security, and despises having their money given to those that can't or wont improve themselves, and a group that thinks anyone with economic security had it handed to them at the pit dwellers expense.
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What kind of nation are we? We are a mixture of peoples and cultures. We are a nation divided, only drawn together under extremely tragic circumstances, or random acts of kindness to a stranger in need. We are a nation that is being manipulated by politicians, the news media that serves the politicians, and political pundits, that are used by both the aforementioned, to be the mouthpieces of the political parties.


This part I agree with.

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We have to stop gripoing about how people see us and talk about us when we do the same to them. Either what both sides say about each other is true or there is some truth (the extremes not the average person of the party) and the other side plays up on the extremes.
Like haves and havenots.
There are as many republicans getting federal money as democrats. As many wealthy people that voted democrat as voted republican.
Here are stats

From Fox Business

24/7 Wall St. identified the states that get the most money from the federal government by taking the figures for federal expenditures in each state from the Consolidated Federal Funds report and subtracting from it the income taxes retained, net of refunds, by the federal government for each state for the same year. The values obtained were then divided by state population figures  from the census bureau to arrive at a per capita figure for each state.
Top 10 States getting the most money from federal government--

1. Alaska
2. Virginia
3. Maryland
4. Hawaii
5. New Mexico
6. Kentucky
7. Alabama
8. West Virginia
9. Connecticut
10. North Dakota

5 voted red, 5 voted blue.
All of us know people that vote republican or democrat. Of the people I know many point the finger at others for being takers yet they receive federal money too. They don't see the federal money they get from militarty duty, business , or injury to be federal money---that is because most think of the 47% as only food stamps and welfare people when in fact the 47% (actualy 48%) come from the top and bottom. Anyone that got money from federal government for their home, business, kids, food, health, or discounted housing.

That is how you have as many republicans as democrats getting federal money. Political party has no bearing on federal money received. Being broke existed before these political parties and will exist after them.

The top 10 states in america getting foodstamps.

1. Mississippi
2. Oregon
3. Tennessee
4. New Mexico
5. Michigan
6. Louisianna
7. Kentucky
8. West virginia
9. Maine
10. South Carolina

6 voted red, 4 voted blue

From FDA--States with smaller populations participate in food stamp programs most often, particularly in the South, where as many as 20 percent of the population is found to use food stamps35% of food stamp recipients are white, 22% are black, 10% hispanic.
Which is obvious since over 72% of population is white so they will have more people and a higher percentage.

Also realize that every $1 turned in in food stamps gets $1.85 in return for accepting them and cashing them in. Go build a business in a poor area and if you take in $10,000 you cash out for $18,500.

Most of these programs are ok.....they just get abused top to bottom. Even fox news guys after election were saying the top screwing government has to stop too and it isn't just the bottom.
We have to "big brother" these people on assistance, programs, and getting business money or tax cuts etc.....we as a nation are investing in them and should make sure they know we are watching them.
Keep up with their expeditures etc...don't like it? Get off federal money.
We also need to crack down HARD on people abusing the system and make it a felony and jail time. And stop sending illegals back to mexico so they just come back. Invest money into mexico, build a facility there and pump money into their economy while making more jobs for us (transport, border guard and patrol, processing, etc) and make it a work camp. Now when guys get arrested they go to jail---in mexico---working. Like in the old days of florida and texas where chain gangs did manual labor jobs clearing land, building, etc....quit coddling people in prison (not talking jail--I am talking prison). Enforce the borders and laws and regulations we have now.


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Coach - Yes, if assuming power to enforce one's own values system is the purpose of a political party.    Frank
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