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ForeverInBlue

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Yeah, it's the janitors.
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Bill,

didn't take it as a call out at all.  I read and form my opinions from several sources, as we all do.  shoddy journalism?  maybe, maybe not

I read ALL kinds of stories, internet, being somewhat old school, I still read the newspaper, a left leaning rag called the Houston Chronicle.  I read magazines, I read this forum [that should tell you I'm not the smartest].  I read much more nonfiction than fiction.  I tune in to local and national news almost every night.  Listen to sports and political talk radio while at work.  I don't believe everything I read but I believe there is more truth to this story than you want to admit publicly.   I believe it is but the tip of the iceberg with corruption in this country.  I know fhoenix, "it's always been this way" so it's all cool.

dude named Joisey gets to call out America because of the "washington way"?  I can also call out America for losing it's way.

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The suggestion that this female reporter should be stalking patrons of strip clubs and porn shops is brilliant.
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The suggestion that this female reporter should be stalking patrons of strip clubs and porn shops is brilliant.


don't forget hookah shops and liquor stores.

Just laugh. 

They made withdrawals there, then were assumed to take that money and go to the local Tom Thumb, Kroger's or Albertson's.  Or how about the farmer's market?

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It's Free Swipe Your EBT. Warning Bad Language.


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The suggestion that this female reporter should be stalking patrons of strip clubs and porn shops is brilliant.

Sexist? She-or any reporter-would need to do the obvious. Follow the money. If the reporter hasn't done that, then the job is left undone.

Aren't the cards coded? If some of the indignant gov't people interviewed want to help, identify the chain of the coin.

Who is actually using the card? The intended person or someone who has obtained the card? On what is the money being spent? By the article, we just know where it was withdrawn.

I have no problem with someone questioning the whole practice of gov't assistance winding up becoming cold cash that can be spent frivolously. But a REPORTER should dig deeper.

Pet peeve. Care not of the subject. Shoddy. Lazy.

Caveat: The links above have no content to the points I am trying to draw. If they exist elsewhere, then I will withdraw my criticism and award a Pulitzer.




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I await the Pulitzer, but I have been blackballed, and banned by the Socialist Media Elite, and their surrogate Dewey. They hate me like no other.  You Sir, at the least, deserve some sort of National Comedic relief award. I am winding up the prop on the balsa wood jet,for your transport to accept said award. BYOP, (bring your own parachute)
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Jimmy Kimmel's man on the streets interviews, showing the total ignorance of the electorate, deserves an Emmy award. All but one of the 6 or so interviewees, could not name their congressman, or senators, but they could name any number of "stars", such as Snookie. Break out the frozen lasagna for an uninformed electorate, manipulated by a socialist media propaganda machine. Thanks Socialist, for an ignorant,uninformed voter base you use to your benefit.
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Sure a lot of shoddy reporters out there.  This one from New Mexico.  There can surely be no fraud in such a large socialist experiment gone wrong.  This story comes up with the same conclusions as the one in New York did.  There are plenty more examples.

EBT Abuse Continued In 2012

By Jim Scarantino on December 18, 2012
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Welfare money tapped in an Albuquerque strip club.  Cash withdrawals of welfare funds inside an El Paso casino, a movie theater, a nightclub, Hooters, smoke shops and liquor stores around the country.

The same suspicious transactions on EBT cards we observed at the end of 2011 continued into 2012.  You can read our first two reports in this series here and here.

EBT stands for “electronic benefit transfer.”  EBT cards act as debit cards issued by the New Mexico Department of Human Services to provide cash under the federal Temporary Assistance to Needy Families program.  Our review of EBT transactions for the last months of 2011 showed EBT cards issued to New Mexico residents being used in 45 states.  Those cards were utilized inside establishments inconsistent with the purposes of the program–helping families with children procure life’s essentials that those families cannot provide for themselves.

EBT cards are also issued for nutrition assistance under the federal SNAP program.  But because those records are confidential under federal law, they were not provided to us by NMSHD.  The records we reviewed were limited to the TANF program.  They exclude the name of the EBT card holder.  The records list the total transaction amount, which includes any purchase and cash back as well as the service fee for the transaction.

We said we would review EBT transactions for June, July and August 2012 to see if what we saw at the end of 2011 was an aberration.

It wasn’t.  EBT abuse appears to be a chronic problem.

Welfare Cash Tapped Inside A Strip Club

The EBT cards are charged with fresh monetary values at the start of the month.  On June 1, 2012, six consecutive uses of EBT cards occurred inside the downtown Albuquerque strip club called “Knockouts.”

A total of $320 was withdrawn on this day.  Either six different EBT card holders used their cards in the strip club, or perhaps one individual kept withdrawing cash on their EBT card until it was used up and returned a zero balance on his last tries.

We found EBT transactions inside the Knockouts strip club in July, as well. We had previously found EBT transactions inside this strip club in the closing months of 2011.

Out of State Casinos

New Mexico has successfully blocked ATMs inside casinos within its borders from accepting EBT cards.  But those efforts did not succeed beyond the state’s borders.  Our previous report showed New Mexico EBT cards being used inside casinos in North Dakota, California, Nevada, Texas, and Louisiana.

The Speaking Rock Casino in El Paso, Texas, again turned in the records of New Mexico’s EBT transactions..  We found that pattern continuing in the Summer of 2012.  For instance, on June 1, we found two transactions on New Mexico EBT cards for a total of $280 occurring inside the El Paso casino.

On July 2, $200 in New Mexico welfare funds were tapped inside the casino.  August 17, $100 was accessed.

Welfare Funds and Liquor

We found plenty of instances  in last months of 2011 where EBT cards were used to access cash from inside liquor stores in New Mexico and around the country.  That didn’t change when the weather got hot.  The same stores in Albuquerque and Las Cruces–Bird of Paradise Discount Liquors, Downtown Liquors, Oasis Liquors, Freeway Liquors and Ray’s Liquors–saw EBT funds withdrawn on their premises.  A few new booze vendors popped up.  Welfare money was again tapped from inside the Lotus Nightclub in downtown Albuquerque, where the EBT card holder–who qualified for public assistance because of their penurious conditions–had to pay a cover charge to get in.

Downtown Liquors of Albuquerque recorded EBT transactions on June 1 of $200 twice, $120 twice, $100 three times and $60 once.

A liquor store in Strathmore, California, saw repeat business in all the summer months.

And Downtown Distillery on Central Avenue in downtown Albuquerque made its debut in EBT records. 

Another downtown Albuquerque establishment, NYPD–a pizza restaurant and bar–racked up huge cash withdrawals on its premises in our first report.  It continued to show large EBT cash transactions on its premises, like $200 on June 1 and five withdrawals totaling $800 on August 1.

Here is a glimpse of transactions on EBT cards inside Downtown Distillery and Downtown Liquors on June 1:

Welfare Funds Up in Smoke

EBT transactions inside smoke shops continued.  We found transactions in some of the same Albuquerque smoke shops, and a few new ones, principally Curly and Moe’s Smokeshop, which turned in the records for all three months.

Let’s Go to the Movies

Somebody who held a New Mexico EBT card utilized cash assistance for needy families to make withdrawals and/or purchases inside the Century 14 multi-screen movie theater in Downtown Albuquerque on June 1 of $200, $40, $40 and $20.  Maybe it was a group of friends using welfare funds who took in a film together to forget their troubles for a couple hours.  Or maybe it was a needy family that pooled their welfare resources to enjoy a night at the movies.

Another EBT card holder used their welfare funds in a $100 transaction inside the Cyberzone internet provider store in Lubbock, Texas.

Money on the Move

The pattern of New Mexico EBT cards being used all over the country continued unabated.  Many of the towns and cities in other states we saw in EBT records for the end of 2011 cropped up again in records for the summer of 2012.  California communities particularly made a strong showing in the records.

This time Pennsylvania came on strong as a state where New Mexico EBT cards were used.  A New Mexico EBT card holder, for instance, tapped $240 in Lancaster, Pennsylvania in June.  Another New Mexico EBT card holder tapped $300 in Quakertown, PA the same day.

Once again, a number of Florida beach communities turned up in the records.

The amounts of out-of-state withdrawals remained large.  The largest out-of-state withdrawal we found took place in Phoenix, where $800 was withdrawn in a single transaction.  That is approximately the monthly benefit for a family with more than six children, according to the State’s income eligibility guidelines.    It costs a lot of money to travel with six children.  One can only wonder how parents who represented themselves as too poor to provide life’s necessities for their families in New Mexico managed to cover the expenses for taking their large family on the road.

Some Reform on the Way

Our third report in the series outlined plans by NMSHD to seek legislation in the upcoming session to implement steps that would prevent EBT transactions inside liquor stores, adult entertainment establishments and casinos.  But the inherent problems in policing the use of untraceable cash will remain.  A card holder need simply use an ATM outside the establishment to get cash to spend in his discretion.  NMSHD has admitted there is really no way to prevent cash from being spent on purposes at odds with the intent of the TANF program.

Our reporting prompted a front page story and editorial in The Albuquerque Journal.  You can read those pieces here and here.

State Representative Nate Gentry, a Republican representing House District 30 in Bernalillo County has announced his intention to introduce legislation to prevent EBT cards from being used in liquor stores, adult entertainment businesses and casinos.  His proposal would mirror the federal legislation passed earlier this year.  The federal law requires states to implement the federal restrictions or face loss of some federal funding.  Gentry claims that his legislation will keep the state from losing $5.5 million in federal welfare funds.


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kiir-

I get it. There is plenty of smoke.

I get it. EBT cards weren't intended to be tapped in liquor stores, casinos and adult entertainment venues.

But who is doing it? Sheesh, this is the first step in journalism class.

It goes like this, "Who, What, Where, When, Why?"

WHO is doing this? Are the cards stolen? Passed on or sold for their content of cash? The data opens a door for questions. A good reporter would have more of the story.

Who put these machines for redemption in place? That's another who that needs reporting. Brilliant.

Again, not railing about the message, just the messenger. Not meaning you, the reporter.


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There are people that illegally obtain or use EBT cards so the EBT cards are at fault not the bad people....let's take them away from everyone.
Haven't we heard this logic with guns? And the compromise will be regulating them more, making it harder to get them, and not allowed in many places- same solutions they have for gun control.
The problem is you cannot regulate crime so all you end up doing most times is punishing law abiding citizens.
By 2014 all states will be compliant or cut off. That means these strip clubs, gun shows, liquor stores, cruise ships, sporting events, etc. that accept EBT cards will not get reimbursed for the EBT money they accepted because the state will not have it paid by feds. So they will stop accepting EBT which eliminates those places from EBT use.

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“I am for doing good to the poor, but...I think the best way of doing good to the poor, is not making them easy in poverty, but leading or driving them out of it. I observed...that the more public provisions were made for the poor, the less they provided for themselves, and of course became poorer. And, on the contrary, the less was done for them, the more they did for themselves, and became richer.”


Benjamin Franklin

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I have not ignored my assignment from Joisey on the request of my list of 10 great Americans, the full list is under consideration.  We do share one man in common and that would be the man quoted above, Ben Franklin.  What do you think Ben Franklin would say of the great government dependency rampant today? 



 Why would a person have access to ATM machines that accept EBT cards in porn video parlors, liquor stores and strip clubs?  That's a much bigger question to me.  WHY, not WHO.  If these were all stolen cards wouldn't the person have a responsibility to inform someone of the theft just like you would a debit or credit card?   Those owners of such stores must be expecting a large stolen EBT card contingent to visit their store.  The reporters job to me is to report.  If more facts are needed then the people doling out my money should be gathering and researching the facts that the reporters have provided.  THe reporters are doing the government's job IMO


fhoenix, the point is "waste in government".  your ideas on many things are "that's just the way it is", the way it has been and we need to live with it.  That's why this country is where it is today.  Well people are sick of that laissez-faire attitude and  throwing our money away to people who use them in liquor stores, hookah shops and strip clubs should be unacceptable.  I am looking for more oversight, they like so much damn oversight, then oversee and curb the abuse of what is done with MY money.

woody's video above is more truthful than many will admit.

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  If more facts are needed then the people doling out my money should be gathering and researching the facts that the reporters have provided.


kiir - I doubt you would have many on the left who are against investigating welfare abuse and fraud.  At the same time, if a bill is put forth to fund more "policing" into the abuses in our social programs, I doubt it would pass in this no spending Congress.

I can't understand why those on the Right, who think waste in Government is both great and obvious, don't call out this GOP led House to pass bills to resolve these concerns.  If you think they have passed bills and the Senate is disregarding them, the House should make it a public campaign on specifically what they've passed.  I doubt there are any obvious and clear fixes that have been voted on.
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dewey, it is your hobby to make everything about left or right.  But since you did...... these abuses  prove that when government gets too big for proper oversight then the abuse will grow.  They should have budgeted oversight in the program for the program to continue.  Not administer, then oversee.  big government, big abuses.  My stand is before something is expanded like welfare roles and food stamps by our politicians then they need to curb the abuse FIRST.  Don't keep throwing money away down the sh** hole.

This article is a little older from 2011, so this isn't a new thing.  Fix the problem and maybe help fix the economy in the meantime.  These people are proving that in a means tested test, they would FAIL.

Editorial: EBT abuse needs strong action from government

 

Last summer, Seattle TV station KING 5 discovered that state welfare recipients were withdrawing money from ATMs inside more than 100 casinos, card rooms and bingo halls. It is against state law to spend welfare money on gambling.

A follow-up investigation found that the Electronic Benefits Transfer cards were used inside strip clubs, too.

Now, state Sen. Mike Carrell, R-Lakewood, is touting a bill that would ban the use of these debit cards at tattoo parlors, bars and gun shops, too.

About 60,000 Washington residents are issued the cards, and the money is supposed to be used to care for needy children. The location of these ATMs suggests that taxpayer money is being wasted on playtime for adults.

A similar welfare scandal unfolded in California, when the Los Angeles Times reported that the debit cards were being used inside casinos and on cruise ships. That’s right: cruise ships. In addition, state welfare money was being withdrawn from every other state in the union, the U.S. Virgin Islands and Guam. Abuses have made headlines in Michigan and New York, too.

Back in Washington state, EBT cards and their PINs are sometimes sold on sites like Craigslist, according to Carrell. Then the sellers report them stolen and get new ones. He says about 37,000 cards a year are reported lost or stolen and are replaced.

This abuse of a compassionate state program is wrong on its face, but it’s especially egregious at a time when the state is struggling to balance the budget.

A variety of legislative fixes have been suggested. The state could limit the amount of cash that can be withdrawn and ban out-of-state transactions. A fraud investigation unit could be established at the state auditor’s office. The state could protect whistle-blowers who report fraud. ATM companies could be asked to block EBT cards at certain locales.

Susan Dreyfus, head of the Department of Social and Health Services, doesn’t quarrel with the need to crack down, but she would like for the investigating unit to be in her department. For the sake of credibility, it would make more sense for this to be a function of the auditor’s office or the attorney general’s.

Abuses like this harm the mission of a worthy program. They create a stigma that taints law-abiding recipients. To keep this running as a credible function of government, officials need to take strong action.

http://www.spokesman.com/stories/2011/feb/06/editorial-ebt-abuse-needs-strong-action-from/


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keepinitreal - You need to learn to relax.  This thread was started to suggest the abuses of our social programs are mostly the fault of Democrats.  I'm suggesting now that GOP has some control, why don't they address some of these issues your reporter is writing about?  If not now, when? 
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The location of these ATMs suggests that taxpayer money is being wasted on playtime for adults.


Sounds like the reporter in this last story agrees with my position.

I want to publicly thank the author of this thread for letting me 'piggyback' my findings.  The thread was dead in the water with a last post date of July '12 until I revived it with new information.  I would think she would welcome my further research on the matter.  I have found abuse in New York, New Mexico and Washington state thus far. 

I will continue in my research until I have traveled the country, rooting out the abuse.   I think I have found a way to make obama look good, I will compile stories of abuse and forward them to the white house for his immediate attention.  Maybe Jay Carney or Valerie Jarrett will be put in charge of this grand scale abuse investigation.  I will seek out stories from only the best publications and the least shoddy reporters.  Stay tuned

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By 2014 all states will be compliant or cut off. That means these strip clubs, gun shows, liquor stores, cruise ships, sporting events, etc. that accept EBT cards will not get reimbursed for the EBT money they accepted because the state will not have it paid by feds. So they will stop accepting EBT which eliminates those places from EBT use.


Not doubting you (too much) but can you give me a source for this information.  I would like to contact them on why the delay on enforcement.  Maybe I will contact my House Rep. in the meantime.

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welfare abuse needs to be cleaned up but how bout public employee abuse, especially our congressman and president with croney capitalism.  The taxes GE is forgoing thanks to Obama amts to billions in one yr from one company.  Dems should be proud!  Wonder how many votes that will end up buying in the next election via paybacks.
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By 2014 all states will be compliant or cut off. That means these strip clubs, gun shows, liquor stores, cruise ships, sporting events, etc. that accept EBT cards will not get reimbursed for the EBT money they accepted because the state will not have it paid by feds. So they will stop accepting EBT which eliminates those places from EBT use.


Not doubting you (too much) but can you give me a source for this information.  I would like to contact them on why the delay on enforcement.  Maybe I will contact my House Rep. in the meantime.


Kiir, the code was changed to exclude "vice" locations last year I think. The Feds gave states until 2014 to comply or lose the funding. I'm sure they could have went for earlier compliance but some states may have had a hard time meeting an earlier deadline. It could have been included in the original law I suppose, but the poor got the benefit of the doubt, and per the Law of Unintended Consequences additional guidelines had to be enacted. There was a big hoopla in CA about this a while back centered on withdrawals at Indian casinos.
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Now it's a lot more clearer FIB and thank you.  They uncovered the abuse years ago but if they made a move before the election, the candidate of the moochers may have had some trouble with his 51%.  I see, hence the 2014 date.  But that too is subject to change.  I just wish they would have expanded the roles after they removed the EBT ATM machines from vice locations.  How could they in all good conscious expand the moochers numbers before cleaning up the broke system that allows for lap dances on tax payer money?  This country has totally flipped out
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And in California they have requested and received permission through the program to enable use of EBT cards at many fast food locations.  Did Michelle give her ok?  Here is just a partial list of where CAlifornians can use their EBT cards and from what I know, this allowance will NOT be changed.  Thankfully I only copied and pasted 4 pages of the 17 page total so you can get the picture.  With free Domino's, KFC and Burger King, access to hookah shops, liquor stores and strip clubs and on top of that, SNAP cards for household groceries and free healthcare, why would some want to go back to work?

COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES
RESTAURANT MEALS PARTICIPATING RESTAURANTS
December 2012
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SOCIAL SERVICES
Carolyn's Kitchen
853 East Manchester Avenue
Los Angeles, 90001
(323) 585-1660
Domino's Pizza
2025 East Florence Avenue
Los Angeles, 90001
(323) 587-0300
Tam's Burgers
6620 South Central Avenue
Los Angeles, 90001
(323) 585-8267
Subway
3300 South Central Avenue
Los Angeles, 90001
(323) 232-2211
La Pizza Loca
1401 Gage Avenue, Suite A
Los Angeles, 90001
(323) 589-9150
Panda Chef
1901 East Gage Avenue
Los Angeles, 90001
(323) 585-2228
Subway
1657 East 103rd Street
Los Angeles, 90001
(323) 566-1722
Pizza Hut
1457 East Florence Avenue, #109
Los Angeles, 90001
(323) 582-9200
Tam's Burgers
904 East Manchester Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90001
(323) 583-7076
Tom's Jr.
1500 East Slauson Avenue
Los Angeles, 90001
(323) 587-3388
Wimpy's Burger
8328 Compton Avenue
Los Angeles, 90001
(323) 584-4132
Kentucky Fried Chicken
8515 South Central Avenue
Los Angeles, 90001
(323) 585-1284
Randolphs Smoke House
8472 South Central Avenue
Los Angeles, 90001
(323) 587-9698
Burger King
1202 East Firestone Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90002
(323) 588-5988
B D Burger
10203 Central Avenue
Los Angeles, 90002
(323) 563-3297
Jack in the Box
10307 South Central Avenue
Los Angeles, 90002
(323) 564-7156
Burger King
1673 East 103rd. Street
Los Angeles, 90002
(323) 564-8594
Subway
8565 South Broadway, #2
Los Angeles, 90003
(323) 451-0122
Pizza Hut
7229 South Figueroa Street
Los Angeles, 90003
(323) 753-8800
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
539 East Florence Avenue
Los Angeles, 90003
(323) 971-4560
Tam's Burgers
10023 South Figueroa Street
Los Angeles, 90003
(323) 418-0951
Jack in the Box
7120 South Broadway
Los Angeles, 90003
(323) 751-5083
El Pollo Loco
101 E. Manchester Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90003
(323) 759-7009
A & T Burgers
9401 South Avalon Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90003
(323) 754-0709
Burger King
304 West Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90003
(323) 779-3684
Subway
10317 South Avalon Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90003
(323) 755-7200
Kentucky Fried Chicken
126 Vermont Avenue, #112
Los Angeles, 90004
(213) 487-4503
Pizza Hut
4251 West Beverly Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90004
(323) 660-1498
Subway
198 South Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90004
(213) 380-1485
Kentucky Fried Chicken
240 North Virgil Avenue
Los Angeles, 90004
(213) 385-5380
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
4202 Beverly Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90004
(213) 384-1557
Subway
4206 Beverly Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90004
(213) 383-8400
Kentucky Fried Chicken
340 North Western Avenue
Los Angeles, 90004
(323) 464-9637
Domino's Pizza
244 South Oxford Avenue, #T
Los Angeles, 90004
(213) 385-3888
Subway
7040 Sunset Boulevard, #C
Los Angeles, 90004
(323) 465-4342
Pizza Hut
4207 Beverly Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90004
(310) 373-1616
El Pollo Loco
1934 West Olympic Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90006
(213) 380-2772
Subway
1013 South Alvarado Street
Los Angeles, 90006
(213) 388-3040
Domino's Pizza
1740 South Hoover Street, #D
Los Angeles, 90006
(213) 748-7774
El Salsabor
2262 Venice Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90006
(323) 732-7742
Kentucky Fried Chicken
2801 West Olympic Boulevvard
Los Angeles, 90006
(213) 386-7222
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
2897 Olympic Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90006
(213) 382-0184
Pizza Hut
1555 South Western Avenue
Los Angeles, 90006
(323) 734-7713
Subway
1728 South Western Avenue
Los Angeles, 90006
(323) 731-3592
El Pollo Loco
986 South Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90006
(213) 380-7721
Jack in the Box
2120 West Pico Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90006
(213) 252-8209
Subway
1101 South Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90006
(213) 382-8598
Domino's Pizza
2803 South Figueroa Street
Los Angeles, 90007
(213) 746-9999
Taco Bell
3629 South Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90007
(323) 737-4717
El Pollo Loco
2904 South Figueroa Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90007
(213) 746-4232
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
4000 South Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90007
(323) 231-4378
Chano's
3000 South Figueroa Street
Los Angeles, 90007
(213) 747-3944
Jack in the Box
2511 South Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90007
(323) 735-7124
Lucy's Bakery
1330 West Washington Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90007
(213) 747-8919
Wing Stop
2280 South Figueroa Street
Los Angeles, 90007
(213) 745-9464
Wendy's
3019 South Hoover Street
Los Angeles, 90007
(213) 746-8072
Pizza Hut
1107 West Adams Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90007
(213) 746-2900
Subway
1625 West Washington Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90007
(323) 735-7218
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
2215 South Vermont Avenue, #106
Los Angeles, 90007
(323) 732-1516
El Pollo Loco
3350 West Vernon Avenue
Los Angeles, 90008
(323) 295-8122
M & M Soul Food
3552 W. Martin Luther King Jr., Blvd.
Los Angeles, 90008
(323) 299-1302
Pizza Hut
4356 Leimert Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90008
(323) 291-4000
Rally's Hamburger
3650 W. Martin Luther King Jr., Blvd.
Los Angeles, 90008
(323) 299-8510
Subway
3939-C Crenshaw Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90008
(323) 293-7771
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COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES
RESTAURANT MEALS PARTICIPATING RESTAURANTS
December 2012
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SOCIAL SERVICES
Wing N Stuff
3650 W. Martin Luther King Jr., Blvd.
Los Angeles, 90008
(323) 295-2928
Wing Stop
3825 South Crenshaw Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90008
(323) 296-9464
Subway
3323 Wilshire Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90010
(213) 380-3671
Pizza Hut
3959 Wilshire Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90010
(213) 380-5900
El Pollo Loco
3959 Wilshire Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90010
(213) 383-3351
Subway
3959 Wilshire Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90010
(213) 386-5222
Burger King
2511 South San Pedro Street
Los Angeles, 90011
(213) 748-2821
El Pollo Loco
4405 Avalon Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90011
(323) 846-8488
Pizza Hut
4351 South Central Avenue
Los Angeles, 90011
(323) 233-1444
Tam's Burger
5023 South Central Avenue
Los Angeles, 90011
(323) 233-1320
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
1900 South San Pedro Street
Los Angeles, 90011
(213) 748-1908
Louisiana Fried Chicken & Chinese
4400 South Central Avenue
Los Angeles, 90011
(323) 232-2005
El Pollo Loco
408 East Washington Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90011
(213) 748-7616
La Pizza Loca, # 91
2201 South San Pedro Street
Los Angeles, 90011
(213) 745-4576
Tam's Burger
2801 South Central Avenue
Los Angeles, 90011
(323) 234-5630
El Pollo Loco
5800 South Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90011
(323) 751-1556
Jack in the Box
4407 South Central Avenue
Los Angeles, 90011
(323) 233-4440
La Pizza Loca
250 E. Martin Luther King Jr., Blvd.
Los Angeles, 90011
(323) 231-1288
Richie's Café & Grill
965 North Vignes Street, #6
Los Angeles, 90012
(213) 626-7010
Subway
370 East 2nd Street
Los Angeles, 90012
(213) 613-0741
Broadway Food Corner
315 West 5th Street
Los Angeles, 90013
(213) 629-1244
Domino's Pizza
545 South Olive Street
Los Angeles, 90013
(213) 623-2424
Downtown Catch 21
441 South Central Avenue
Los Angeles, 90013
(213) 485-1614
Corner Kafe
301 East 7th Street
Los Angeles, 90014
(213) 622-5202
Food for Life, Inc.
401 East 6th Street
Los Angeles, 90014
(213) 896-0200
Food For You Market & Restaurant
653 South San Pedro Street
Los Angeles, 90014
(213) 327-1107
Maple's Restaurant
232 East 6th Street, Suite C
Los Angeles, 90014
(213) 622-2494
Pizza Hut
718 South Los Angeles Street
Los Angeles, 90014
(213) 489-3863
Pizza Xpress
303 East 7th Street
Los Angeles, 90014
(213) 489-3863
Subway
508 West 7th Street
Los Angeles, 90014
(213) 614-8888
Tony's Burger
649 South Wall Street, #1
Los Angeles, 90014
(213) 627-2768
Subway
1400 West Pico Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90015
(213) 477-8411
Hong Kong Express
155 West Washington Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90015
(213) 765-3318
La Pizza Loca
1563 West Pico Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90015
(213) 380-2190
Pizza Hut
1562 West Pico Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90015
(213) 388-6111
Subway
308 South Broadway
Los Angeles, 90015
(213) 626-1605
Pollo Campero
1605 West Olympic Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90015
(213) 251-8594
Burger King
1662 West Martin Luther King Jr., Blvd.
Los Angeles, 90016
(323) 296-1159
Subway
3560 South La Cienega Boulevard, Unit 103
Los Angeles, 90016
(323) 954-7129
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
1570 South Western Avenue, Suite 100
Los Angeles, 90016
(323) 733-3317
Burger King
3036 South Crenshaw Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90016
(323) 737-2622
Subway
2817 South Crenshaw Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90016
(323) 735-6962
Domino's Pizza
3631 Crenshaw Boulevard, #113
Los Angeles, 90016
(323) 737-7700
Taurus Flavors Deli
5012 West 21st Street
Los Angeles, 90016
(323) 937-4252
El Pollo Loco
2801 Crenshaw Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90016
(323) 734-3373
Denny's
3740 Crenshaw Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90016
(323) 298-5498
Taco Bell
2800 South Crenshaw Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90016
(323) 737-5700
California Steak & Fries
3745 South La Brea Avenue
Los Angeles, 90016
(323) 294-2200
Kentucky Fried Chicken
1501 West 6th Street
Los Angeles, 90017
(213) 483-9412
Subway
630 West 6th Street
Los Angeles, 90017
(323) 661-3800
Subway
801-A South Flower Street
Los Angeles, 90017
(213) 892-0926
Burger King
3533 South Western Avenue
Los Angeles, 90018
(323) 732-2197
Haven Burgers
3515 Rodeo Road
Los Angeles, 90018
(323) 299-5271
Haven Burgers
3515 Rodeo Road
Los Angeles, 90018
(323) 299-5271
Master Burger
4366 West Adams Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90018
(323) 734-8021
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
2850 Crenshaw Boulevard, #C
Los Angeles, 90018
(323) 766-9220
Domino's Pizza
3309 West Pico Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90019
(323) 735-8008
Pizza Hut
5101 Venice Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90019
(323) 938-6111
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
4846 West Pico Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90019
(323) 931-9972
Domino's Pizza
5151 West Pico Boulevard, #B
Los Angeles, 90019
(323) 934-3030
El Pollo Loco
1545 South Western Avenue
Los Angeles, 90019
(323) 732-5626
Burger King
833 South Central Avenue
Los Angeles, 90021
(213) 622-2755
Jack in the Box
1415 South Alameda Street
Los Angeles, 90021
(213) 746-8827
Pop's Foodmart and Restaurant
810 East 7th Street
Los Angeles, 90021
(213) 689-4311
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COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES
RESTAURANT MEALS PARTICIPATING RESTAURANTS
December 2012
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SOCIAL SERVICES
Subway
5536 East Whittier Boulevard
Commerce, 90022
(323) 720-1573
El Pollo Loco
5160 East Olympic Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90022
(323) 981-9196
Jack in the Box
5075 East Whittier Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90022
(323) 266-2449
John's Burgers
6537 Whittier Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90022
(323) 721-1524
La Pizza Loca
5040 Whittier Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90022
(323) 261-7744
Pizza Hut
5213 Whittier Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90022
(323) 267-0300
Subway
289 South Atlantic Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90022
(323) 264-8885
Domino's Pizza
4746 East Cesar Chavez Avenue
Los Angeles, 90022
(323) 268-3030
Subway
4770 Cesar Chavez Avenue, #A
Los Angeles, 90022
(323) 780-7255
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
701 South Atlantic Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90022
(323) 268-3636
Burger King
2675 East Olympic Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90023
(323) 262-6002
Carnitas Michoacan
741 South Soto Street
Los Angeles, 90023
(323) 266-7188
Domino's Pizza
2193 Whittier Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90023
(323) 268-2000
El Pollo Loco
1224 South Soto Street
Los Angeles, 90023
(323) 261-4671
Jack in the Box
1335 South Soto Street
Los Angeles, 90023
(323) 263-1450
Sam's Tacos
715 South Soto Street
Los Angeles, 90023
(323) 263-7858
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
1201 South Soto Street
Los Angeles, 90023
(323) 269-3575
Domino's Pizza
1371 Westwood Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90024
(310) 824-5000
Subway
11275 Santa Monica Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90025
(310) 966-1650
Domino's Pizza
12237 Santa Monica Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90025
(310) 826-3030
El Pollo Loco
11870 Santa Monica Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90025
(310) 820-7924
Pizza Hut
12217 Santa Monica Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90025
(310) 207-7748
Subway
11819 Wilshire Boulevard, Unit #105
Los Angeles, 90025
(310) 444-1813
Domino's Pizza
3502 Sunset Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90026
(323) 667-2323
Jack in the Box
1710 Glendale Boulevard
Echo Park, 90026
(323) 661-7225
Patra Burgers
1524 Sunset Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90026
(213) 250-7973
El Pollo Loco
330 North Alvarado Street
Los Angeles, 90026
(213) 353-0084
Burger King
1301 Glendale Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90026
(213) 413-8655
Domino's Pizza
1311-G Glendale Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90026
(213) 413-8444
El Pollo Loco
1260 North Vine Boulevard
Hollywood, 90026
(323) 464-0860
Pizza Hut
2542 West Temple Street
Los Angeles, 90026
(213) 387-7711
Wendy's Restaurant
1305 North Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90027
(323) 663-7387
El Pollo Loco
5319 Sunset Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90027
(323) 462-2644
Pizza Hut
2724 Hyperion Avenue
Los Angeles, 90027
(323) 663-1200
Domino's Pizza
5065 Hollywood Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90027
(323) 662-6666
Subway
5065 Hollywood Boulevard, #102
Los Angeles, CA 90027
(323) 644-0004
Domino's Pizza
6051 Hollywood Boulevard, #106
Los Angeles, 90028
(323) 463-7044
Subway
5537 Sunset Boulevard, #109
Los Angeles, 90028
(323) 466-2197
Domino's Pizza
4815-H Valley Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90028
(323) 222-7722
Pizza Hut
6660 West Sunset Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90028
(323) 467-4466
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
700 North Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90029
(323) 668-1935
Subway
1018 North Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90029
(323) 664-6035
El Pollo Loco
3925 Sunset Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90029
(323) 665-1333
Pizza Hut
4629 W. Santa Monica Boulevard
Hollywood, 90029
(323) 663-0400
China Way Restaurant
1100 North Vermont Avenue, #17
Los Angeles, 90029
(323) 666-5898
El Pollo Loco
912 North Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90029
(323) 660-7900
Dino's Burgers
2817 North Main Street
Los Angeles, 90031
(323) 223-1843
Jack in the Box
2521 North Pasadena Avenue
Los Angeles, 90031
(323) 223-6094
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
2500 Pasadena Avenue
Los Angeles, 90031
(323) 222-9705
El Pollo Loco
5151 State University Drive
Los Angeles, 90032
(323) 343- 6728
Pizza Hut
5130 South Huntington Drive
El Sereno, 90032
(323) 221-3100
Rally's Hamburger
9829 Venice Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90034
(323) 753-5033
La Pizza Loca
2924 East Cesar Chavez Avenue
Los Angeles, 90033
(323) 263-9949
Tom's Burgers
320 South Soto Street
Los Angeles, 90033
(323) 264-4422
Pizza Hut
3002 South Sepulveda Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90034
(310) 473-1133
El Pollo Loco
3008 South Sepulveda Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90034
(310) 444-0010
Domino's Pizza
2815 South Robertson Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90034
(310) 559-3030
Burger King
3520 South Sepulveda Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90034
(310) 390-2891
Jack in the Box
10701 Venice Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90034
(310) 836-2385
Subway
8511 Venice Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90034
(310) 558-4222
El Pollo Loco
1833 South La Cienga Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90035
(310) 838-8803
Pizza Hut
8947 West Pico Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90035
(310) 888-0070
Jack in the Box
465 South Fairfax Avenue
Los Angeles, 90036
(323) 936-7709
Domino's Pizza
7125 Beverly Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90036
(323) 936-1140
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COUNTY OF LOS ANGELES
RESTAURANT MEALS PARTICIPATING RESTAURANTS
December 2012
DEPARTMENT OF PUBLIC SOCIAL SERVICES
El Pollo Loco
5001 Wilshire Boulevard, Suite 101
Los Angeles, 90036
(323) 937-7171
Jack in the Box
5201 Wilshire Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90036
(323) 965-8102
Subway
7825 Beverly Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90036
(323) 937-0517
Kentucky Fried Chicken
5925 West Third Street
Los Angeles, 90036
(323) 931-4861
Kentucky Fried Chicken
2809 South Figueroa Street
Los Angeles, 90037
(213)748-5632
Subway
3974 South Figueroa Street
Los Angeles, 90037
(213) 747-9779
Carl's Jr.
1001 W. Martin Luther King Jr., Blvd.
Los Angeles, 90037
(323) 766-8290
Kentucky Fried Chicken
1425 Martin Luther King Jr., Blvd.
Los Angeles, 90037
(323) 291-4322
Chano's
3850 South Figueroa Street
Los Angeles, 90037
(213) 748-0397
Jack in the Box
4353 South Figueroa Street
Los Angeles, 90037
(323) 235-4345
Burger King
4410 South Figueroa Street
Los Angeles, 90037
(323) 846-9404
Domino's Pizza
5401 South Figueroa Street, #8
Los Angeles, 90037
(323) 753-6888
Louisiana Fried Chicken
1030 West Martin Luther King Jr., Blvd.
Los Angeles, 90037
(323) 233-8728
Pizza Hut
1014 W. Martin Luther King Jr., Blvd.
Los Angeles, 90037
(323) 231-8000
Taco Bell
5801 South Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90037
(323) 759-1891
Subway
1030 Martin Luther King Blvd., #106B
Los Angeles, 90037
(323) 231-4200
Kentucky Fried Chicken NEW
5720 South Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90037
(323) 753-1375
Subway
6115 West San Monica Blvd, Unit D
Los Angeles, 90038
(323) 463-6115
Jack in the Box
1243 North Highland
Los Angeles, 90038
(323) 461-7605
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
1075 North Western Avenue, # 109
Los Angeles, 90038
(323) 871-0877
Tam's Burger
4419 South Normandie Avenue
Los Angeles, 90037
(323) 290-9821
Subway
750 North Vine Street
Los Angeles, 90038
(323) 465-1025
Subway
6775 Santa Monica Boulevard, #9
Los Angeles, 90038
(323) 957-9553
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
6300 Santa Monica Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90038
(323) 467-8875
China Lee Chinese Fast Food
5920 Santa Monica Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90038
(323) 871-2838
Subway
3112 Glendale Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90039
(323) 661-3800
Domino's Pizza
5742 Olympic Boulevard
Commerce, 90040
(323) 888-1555
Jack in the Box
7503 East Slauson Avenue
Commerce, 90040
(323) 890-2945
Subway
6130 East Washington Boulevard
Commerce, 90040
(323) 721-8200
Burger King
4959 Eagle Rock Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90041
(213) 258-2040
Domino's Pizza
1759 Colorado Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90041
(323) 256-5991
Jack in the Box
4470 Eagle Rock Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90041
(323) 259-3154
Pizza Hut
2930 East Colorado Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90041
(818) 552-2277
Domino's Pizza
5524 York Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90042
(323) 255-5999
Pizza Hut
5839 York Boulevard
Highland Park, 90042
(323) 256-5700
R & J Family Restaurant
8852 Rosecrans Avenue
Downey, 90042
(562) 408-2960
Brother's BBQ
7725 Crenshaw Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90043
(323) 751-1050
Fred Down Home Burger
2524 West Slauson Avenue
Los Angeles, 90043
(323) 298-7762
Fresh and Meaty Burgers
3016 West Florence Avenue
Los Angeles, 90043
(323) 751-2247
Jack in the Box
2220 West Slauson Avenue
Los Angeles, 90043
(323) 298-0653
Jack in the Box
4210 South Crenshaw Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90043
(323) 293-0034
Mama's Chicken
2510 West Slauson Avenue
Los Angeles, 90043
(323) 292-9777
Subway
3274 W. Slauson Ave., #202-203
Los Angeles, 90043
(323) 296-0996
Bobo's Hamburgers
1220 Firestone Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90044
(323) 582-9978
Ceiba Restaurant
9131 South Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90044
(323) 777-1117
Chris Burger
4444 Crenshaw Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90044
(323) 295-4004
Chris Burger
4444 Crenshaw Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90044
(323) 295-4004
Domino's Pizza
950 West Manchester Avenue
Los Angeles, 90044
(323) 758-5500
Dragon Loco
1011 West Florence Avenue
Los Angeles, 90044
(323) 565-4060
El Pollo Loco
1360 West Imperial Highway
Los Angeles, 90044
(323) 757-8229
House of Edaw
9000 South Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90044
(323) 777-1614
Jack in the Box
1000 West Slauson Avenue
Los Angeles, 90044
(323) 834-0199
Kentucky Fried Chicken NEW
1148 West Manchester Avenue
Los Angeles, 90044
(323) 758-3544
Pizza Hut
1001 West Century Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90044
(323) 757-9000
Subway
5864 South Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90044
(323) 758-5700
Subway
8310 South Vermont Avenue
Los Angeles, 90044
(323) 750-8965
Tam's Burger
500 West Manchester Avenue
Los Angeles, 90044
(323) 735-6962
Yoshinoya Beef Bowl
1004 West Slauson Avenue
Los Angeles, 90044
(213) 565-3506
Burger King
5228 West Centinela Avenue
Los Angeles, 90045
(310) 649-2146
El Pollo Loco
5300 Centinela Avenue
Los Angeles, 90045
(310) 645-2080
Kentucky Fried Chicken NEW
8500 Lincoln Boulevard
Los Angeles, 90045
(310) 670-4050
Kentucky Fried Chicken NEW
5220 West Centinela Avenue
Los Angeles, 90045
(310) 670-7947
Pizza Hut
6312 West 89th Street
Los Angeles, 90045
(310) 641-1114
Subway
5339 West Centinela Avenue, #A
Los Angeles, 90045
(310) 670-7092
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Another issue that I have uncovered is folks selling EBT cards with their PIN included on Craigslist.   Maybe this reporter will meet the standard.

Local

Investigation Uncovers People Selling Taxpayer-Funded Food Stamps

 
http://losangeles.cbslocal.com/2012/02/16/investigation-uncovers-people-selling-taxpayer-funded-food-stamps/

Reporting David Goldstein

 

LOS ANGELES (CBS) — A CBS2 News hidden-camera investigation uncovered people selling food stamps, cashing in your taxpayer money.

With hidden cameras, we uncovered a black market of people offering to sell their food stamp benefits for cash, which is against the law.

With the cash they could buy whatever they want — perhaps alcohol, cigarettes or even drugs — things you can’t buy with food stamps, all coming from your money.

Nationwide 46 million Americans are now collecting $75 billion in food-stamp benefits.

In California it is called CalFresh and more than one million people in L.A. County are signed up.

The benefits range from $200 to $1,500 a month and the money comes through Electronic Benefit Transfer Cards (EBTs), which work like debit cards.

EBTs are not supposed to be shared. But we went on Craigslist and found no shortage of people offering to cash in on their food stamps, giving buyers bargains to seal the deal.

We saw ads for people selling $131 worth for $61; $70 for $50; and $200 for $150.

We answered one for someone offering to sell $200 in food stamps for $125.

Our undercover producer met with Matthew, who said he had just enlisted in the Navy, outside of a supermarket in Riverside. There he had more to sell, offering not only his EBT card, but someone else’s.

“This one is my friend Steven’s. I have his PIN number,” he said, adding, “This one is mine. I have my pin number.”

“OK, so he has $200 and he has definitely got it on his account,” our undercover producer asked?

“Yeah, I just called. It’s $200 on his card. I’ve got $110,” Matthew replied.

He wanted to deal.

“I have $310 right here,” Matthew said to our producer.

“Three ten?”

“Want to do it for $200,” he offered.

“Yeah, $200 would be great,” our producer replied.

He said he would go shopping with our undercover producer. She could pick what she wanted and he would pay with his EBT cards — the supermarket would never know.

We did not go through with it, but tried to talk with Mathew.

“You’re taking taxpayer money and you’re selling food stamps, right,” I asked?

“I don’t want to talk about it. I don’t want to talk about it,” was his response.

He went back inside the store, then tried to avoid our camera by coming out without his shirt on, using it to block our view.

“You’re in the Navy and you’re ripping off taxpayers?”

 

He was not the only one; we answered another ad.

“I’ve done it with friends. It’s no big deal,” said a man in Redondo Beach, who told us that he had done it before.

“You’re selling food stamps. It’s illegal,” I said.

“I wasn’t selling food stamps,” he replied, denying it at first.

Then he admitted that he knew a lot of people doing it.

“It’s pretty easy, right,” I asked?

“I guess so,” he said.

A woman also responded to an ad on Craigslist and told our producer that everything was on the up and up.

“Is it OK to do this? Is it legal,” our producer asked?

“Yeah, as far as I know. Friends and I have done it for each other,” she said.

But it is not.

Liz claimed that she did not know.

“No I didn’t. Honest to God, no one ever told me that,” she said.

But people like Latoya Pierce, a single mother who collects food stamps, thinks that it hurts everyone.

“It makes me very upset because first of all I’m struggling with my daughter and for people to get money and use it for something else is very wrong,” Pierce said.

In L.A. County the Department of Social Services administers benefits and investigates food stamp fraud.

They have about 160 investigators, but, believe it or not, they have only arrested about a dozen people in the past year.

We showed our undercover video to Lupe Luque, who is in charge of fraud.

“We answered the ad on Craigslist and met them at the supermarket. Why can’t your people do this,” I asked him?

“We are,” he replied.

“But you only had a dozen arrests in the past year. It doesn’t sound like you’re doing a lot about it,” I said.

“Not a lot, but we are doing it,” Luque responded.

But right now they are still out there.

What we uncovered may show the hidden underground of trading benefits for cash is more widespread and that taxpayers are footing the bill.

USDA Response To Our Investigation:

“USDA has a zero tolerance policy for fraud in the SNAP program and works with states to crack down on abusers who violate the program and misuse taxpayer dollars. In FY 2010, nearly 800,000 investigations were completed to combat fraud and reduce trafficking. These incidents will not be tolerated and the county should use their full authority under the law to make sure that fraud is punished and that bad actors are held accountable.”

-Kevin Concannon, USDA Under Secretary for Food, Nutrition and Consumer Services

If you want to report food stamp fraud, visit http://www.fns.usda.gov/fightingsnapfraud.




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Finally found a number

$750 million A YEAR!!!!

The government is trying to crackdown on food stamp recipients who are costing taxpayers $750 million dollars a year by illegally selling their benefit cards on eBay and Craigslist for cash.

 

The agriculture department wants to give states more power to investigate people who repeatedly claim to lose their benefit cards and then ask for replacements. The proposal would allow states to demand formal explanations from people who seek replacement cards more than three times a year. Those who don't comply can be denied further cards.

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David Goldstein  That's what I am talkin about.

You lose your card and get a replacement? OK. A man's gotta eat. However, the cards are electronic. Should be able to void the card immediately upon notification. OK. Pin number? That lost too? 800,000 investigative cases. Holy handgrenade.

If all the monies collected, distributed, over sought, organized, etc. was just given to the needy, by George, they'd be flush.

All aid should be localized. Sure there will graft. But the graphs indicate the current system has run amok with the till. (Pun intirely intended.)

Thanks kiir for the in depth reporting. The NY Post should hand you a pen.


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Despite all these articles saying otherwise, I find it very hard to believe these EBT cards are used in strip clubs.  I would think their sharp plastic edges might cut the girls when you slipped them in their G-String.
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dewey I know you probably think that funny, but that the problem.  You think everything is so good "giving" when everybody is using everybody and your vote just feeds into the politicians and lazy people scamming the system.
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If 47 million people collect food stamps and twenty percent of those are abusing the system, it's still less than 3% of the population.  What level of success are you expecting in a Government or private operation of this nature?  Who do you include in all this nanny state talk anyway?  Who do you count as moochers, those who paid into SS and UE and are collecting some funds back?  If only you could see the special interests and lobbyists hoarding your tax dollars up on Capitol Hill, you might focus more of your energy in a new direction rather than the needy.  By the way, I understand most food stamps go to children, elderly, and families working full time but earning quite little. 
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Dewey -

The percentage of LEGAL gunowners who commit crimes is waaayyyy less than your 3%, yet your side wants to limit access to them for everyone.  How are these two things not comparable?

As for abuse - my daughter went to school with a girl who had full tuition, meal plan, room, books, everything paid for by the government.  Yet, she qualified for one of these EBT cards.  Each month, when she got her balance, she took a few of her friends shopping - they bought mostly snacks and beer.  This practice became a mini-fad, with many folks she knew getting these cards, and doing these beer and munchie monthly splurges. 

All the while, I couldn't help but think - that's my money these kids are burning.  Because her parents are middle class and actually had to pay a significant portion of these costs (non-scholarship stuff), my daughter couldn't afford to go off-campus to get an ice cream cone.  She used the money she earned from her job for bigger events, like the Spring formal, etc.

Remind again how this is "fair"?
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mikec - I have agreed numerous times there is some abuse in all programs.  I guess I don't understand the moral of the story.  If I can point to a business that abuses consumers, does that say something about the business community?  Not sure what your side is trying to accomplish.  My side has already agreed abuse anywhere should be curtailed when possible.

As for guns, I don't know anyone trying to take away the right to bear arms.

Lastly, I simply wanted to know who we are including on the list of moochers?  The small percentage of Americans who take advantage of these programs or SS beneficiaries and those out of work drawing from their UE funds.
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