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uclart47

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I can't imagine anyone other than UW fans enjoyed that much. They should have just showed a replay of Florida-Alabama. With the wide zone they were giving her Lawrie was pretty much unhittable. That doesn't explain the poor performance of Nelson and the Florida defense. If the pattern holds true, the Gators have them right where they want them.


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After how many runs Georgia scored on Lawrie, I expected Florida to hit the ball much better than they did. I think this umpire had a much wider strike zone than what I have seen during post season play. Lawrie took more advantage of it than Brombacher or Nelson.

Nelson got these same calls versus Arizona.

The only two uber wide zones I've seen in this WCWS

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I can't imagine anyone other than UW fans enjoyed that much. They should have just showed a replay of Florida-Alabama. With the wide zone they were giving her Lawrie was pretty much unhittable. That doesn't explain the poor performance of Nelson and the Florida defense. If the pattern holds true, the Gators have them right where they want them.



Nelson had the same zone to work with.
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I can't imagine anyone other than UW fans enjoyed that much. They should have just showed a replay of Florida-Alabama. With the wide zone they were giving her Lawrie was pretty much unhittable. That doesn't explain the poor performance of Nelson and the Florida defense. If the pattern holds true, the Gators have them right where they want them.



Nelson had the same zone to work with.

Maybe so but she wasn't able to take advantage of it. We always here the fans say, "Call em the same for both teams." but they don't really mean it. They want the blue to give their team the advantage. Even calling things the same doesn't necessarily make them even. Take basketball where one team is a finesse team and the other team a muscle team. If you call a lot of touch fouls, you will disadvantage the muscle team even if the calls are even. I haven't seen Nelson enough to know how much she depends on that outside call but Lawrie certainly does and she wasn't getting it in the loss to Georgia.


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I remember the first game Nelson pitched she was clocked at 70 consistently, and the announcers were surprised saying she usually pitches around 65.  Maybe her arm is sore?  
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Both pitchers were getting some slack on the inside to righties (outside to lefties), and nothing on the other side.  I just think Lawrie adjusted better to the umpire's zone, and Nelson's movement pitches, especially the screw-ball, weren't under control.  She did K a few lefties with it, but it went too far outside too often.   If she had gone to that crazy 'flat-line' changeup of hers more, she would have had more success.  And yes, I'm inclined to think she was overcompensating and overthrowing (same as Lawrie did in the early game on Sunday vs. UGA).  Bet once she sees the tapes, she'll make the adjustments and come out strong tonight.
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Both pitchers were getting some slack on the inside to righties (outside to lefties), and nothing on the other side.  I just think Lawrie adjusted better to the umpire's zone, and Nelson's movement pitches, especially the screw-ball, weren't under control.  She did K a few lefties with it, but it went too far outside too often.   If she had gone to that crazy 'flat-line' changeup of hers more, she would have had more success.  And yes, I'm inclined to think she was overcompensating and overthrowing (same as Lawrie did in the early game on Sunday vs. UGA).  Bet once she sees the tapes, she'll make the adjustments and come out strong tonight.


Really? I thought Lawrie was getting the corner away on righties.........the corner of the 1st base coaches box.

 


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I think hot is relative since I could still see the sweat beading down Danielle's face during the game.


She was noticeably sweating more heavily than any other player on the field last night...and she was on fire!





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Sweat? No, no, no...she shines brightly.

Horses sweat, men perspire and women glow.

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No expert on this, but she had the "sheen" on her face even before she hit the field.  Would bet it was skin cream of some kind, from the sun she had gotten the previous day.  It never changed all game - bet she had burned.

Really an interesting, significant post, huh?
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no expert on this, but she had the "sheen" on her face even before she hit the field


It's perspiration, imo: check out her forearms.
Larger version of the same pic:
http://grfx.cstv.com/schools/ncaa/blog/2009wcwsblog/Picture%20120.jpg

She wasn't that shiny in the earlier innings, and the sun was still out then.
Doubt she put on SPF after dark!
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OK - it looks like we ought to be able to "put this issue to bed" with maybe two or three posts?

I wasn't talking about "sun screen" - I think she got burned the day before, and had applied a "skin creme/moisturizer" before the game.

Hey, we are experts on all this stuff, down here in Tucson! What do you think we are - a bunch of cowboys?  WE know how to USE these lotions! Smiley Sunglasses 






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I saw Brokeback Mountain: I know what cowboys do with lotion.



I meant, what some cowboys are [B]prone[/I] to do with lotion.
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I think you both are approaching the ledge here.


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pitch - all I can say is "that's a low blow"!

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I saw Brokeback Mountain: I know what cowboys do with lotion.



I meant, what some cowboys are [B]prone[/I] to do with lotion.


Ewe chick flick. Go with "Wild Things" next time.

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Fans do you think that NCAA wants this series to stretch to 3 games????
Will they somehow find a politically correct way to tell the umps that Florida should win.???
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approaching the ledge


You've got to be joking!
I'm not even gonna go near that one with a 10" pole.

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Go with "Wild Things"


I am not that curious; yellow, in fact.

I'll stick with Sendak.
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Fans do you think that NCAA wants this series to stretch to 3 games????
Will they somehow find a politically correct way to tell the umps that Florida should win.???
If the NCAA tells the umpires to make sure Florida wins then Washington definitely has it in the bag!!!

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Must be a slow day for Bill, pitch, indy, and Gonein.  You four sure do have a range of knowledge.  I'll probably never think of two and Q the same again.  Does anybody work anymore?  Leave it to Hammer to jump on all your punchlines.

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You four sure do have a range of knowledge.


A broad range!!!




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With Danielle "on", we Gators need to be perfect to compete! We su**ed bad enough last night to stop the flow of the St. John's River (North toward GA).
Hopefully we'll get it moving the right way tonight!  I don't know what to expect since I haven't seen us in this situation. I'll go with 2-1, with the winner being the team that makes the fewest mistakes!!
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Oh lawd this is outta control!!! lol

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This game will rest squarely on the shoulders of.......the homeplate umpire. Whichever pitcher the ump chooses to favor, their team will win. Last night it was Lawrie. Tonight??? We will see.


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Maybe Holly Rowe can ask both Lawrie and Nelson before the game if they, and their team, can defeat their opponent regardless of who is umping the plate?  I suspect they'll both say "certainly". 

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You give Blue too much credit. The zone could have been 4 feet wide last night and Nelson's screw balls in the dirt would still be balls. She just had a bad night. I hope she recovers her control by this weekend.
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Maybe Holly Rowe can ask both Lawrie and Nelson before the game if they, and their team, can defeat their opponent regardless of who is umping the plate?  I suspect they'll both say "certainly". 

Saying it and doing it are two seperate things.

Umpiring is definitely a factor. Lawrie couldn't overcome an umpire that made her throw the ball over the plate in game 1 versus Georgia (Sunday). The blue behind the plate controls how things go.

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You give Blue too much credit. The zone could have been 4 feet wide last night and Nelson's screw balls in the dirt would still be balls. She just had a bad night. I hope she recovers her control by this weekend.

Nah. The point it to take credit from Washington.


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You give Blue too much credit. The zone could have been 4 feet wide last night and Nelson's screw balls in the dirt would still be balls. She just had a bad night. I hope she recovers her control by this weekend.

On this, we agree.
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Gators up 2-0. Great double play from Washington limits the damage.

Now we'll see what Nelson has.

Looks to be a good game!

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