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Sec_fan91

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Assuming US qualifies at the worlds in 2018 that would leave only 1 other team eligible from the Americas. Canada had trouble against PR, Cuba, Venezuela and lost to all those teams this past summer so there is no sure thing. Sara G's pitching this past summer was definitely not there. As well, as I understand it Puerto Rico allows non-nationals to play for their team (i.e. King, Gordon, Alvelo??not sure) so they can pretty well have their pick of any U.S. born player who wants to play for PR. To play for Canada you must have a documented connection (player, parent born in Canada). Canada needs pitching so if Lawrie can return to her collegiate days form this may well be their ticket to qualify. Without top-shelf consistent pitchers (a few), Canada doesn't stand a chance at qualifying.


Didn’t Ocasio play for PR?
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Mexico can dominate the Netherlands & the Kiwis.
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Mexico can dominate the Netherlands & the Kiwis.


Yes, completely forgot about Mexico - they too beat Canada handily this past summer. When Escobedo is on, no one touches her.
Ocasio is also on the PR roster (good pitcher, utility player and hitter) but I believe she's a PR national so didn't mention her.

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Mexico can dominate the Netherlands & the Kiwis.


Mexico has to beat Americas teams to qualify regardless if they can beat Ned, Aus or NZ.
I believe though if U.S and another Americas team qualifies at the Worlds there would be no space open as only 2 teams from the Americas can qualify for the Olympics. Please correct me if I'm wrong. 

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Mexico has to beat Americas teams to qualify regardless if they can beat Ned, Aus or NZ.
I believe though if U.S and another Americas team qualifies at the Worlds there would be no space open as only 2 teams from the Americas can qualify for the Olympics. Please correct me if I'm wrong. 
is it us, canada, Mexico and Puerto Rico for two slots?
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Everybody should know that Netherlands and New Zealand do not belong in Japan.
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Why doesn't Mexico have a strong team?
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Are we sure there are only two slots available for the americas teams? What if the US, for instance, wins the premier qualifying tournament and gets the automatic berth? Wouldn't that leave the 2 americas' regional bids still open?

Mexico is a threat with Escobedo.

To play for PUR you need to have a parent or grandparent born in PUR.
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Why doesn't Mexico have a strong team?


They will have a stronger team starting next year.
No way in hell will No. 7 & 8 be stronger than PR, DR & Mex.
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Are we sure there are only two slots available for the americas teams? What if the US, for instance, wins the premier qualifying tournament and gets the automatic berth? Wouldn't that leave the 2 americas' regional bids still open? Mexico is a threat with Escobedo. To play for PUR you need to have a parent or grandparent born in PUR.


Escobedo would definitely make them a threat.  I understand they will be bringing in the only kid to beat OU twice this year.
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Everybody should know that Netherlands and New Zealand do not belong in Japan.


If they qualify in their region they will be in the Olympics. Toughest competition for qualifying will be the Americas where only 2 can qualify.

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Are we sure there are only two slots available for the americas teams? What if the US, for instance, wins the premier qualifying tournament and gets the automatic berth? Wouldn't that leave the 2 americas' regional bids still open? Mexico is a threat with Escobedo. To play for PUR you need to have a parent or grandparent born in PUR.


The only team that gets an automatic berth is Japan. If US wins they would qualify and that would leave 1 Americas bid open as I understand it. The 2018 worlds will be most important to qualify as everyone has an equal shot at qualifying. There are different opportunities to qualify but I don't know what they are but the qualifiers for the Olympics are set up to ensure there is representation from all regions of the world. Other than Japan and Australia the best teams I believe are from the Americas but that's not how it's set up so the top 6 teams in the world may not be the 6 teams at the Olympics. 

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Japan wanted softball so they should be the one selecting the very best 7 teams.
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They will have a stronger team starting next year. No way in hell will No. 7 & 8 be stronger than PR, DR & Mex.


I'm just surprised since there are a lot of players that could qualify to play for Mexico.
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It will not be Japan + six national teams, but six national teams, including Japan.
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UW's starting lineup against Bellevue (12-0):

2B Taryn Atlee 1-4, 2r, 1db, 1bb
SS Sis Bates 1-4, 3rbi, 1tpl
DH Morgann Flores 1-3, 1r, 1rbi, 1bb
1B Kirstyn Thomas 1-1, 1r, 3bb
C Emma Helm 2-4, 1r, 1rbi
3B Nawai Kuape 1-2, 2r, 1rbi, 2bb
RF Trysten Melhart 3-4, 2r, 3rbi
LF Amirah Milloy 2-4, 2r, 1rbi
CF Kelly Burdick 3-4, 1r, 4rbi, 1dbl
P Samantha Manti 5.0ip, 2h, 0r, 0bb, 7k

No Taylor Van Zee in this game.

http://stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=188325

UW vs Wenatchee Valley:

2B Taryn Atlee 1-3, 3r, 1h, 1dbl, 1bb
SS Sis Bates 1-4
DH Morgann Flores 4-4, 3rbi, 2dbl
1B Kirstyn Thomas 2-4, 3r, 2rbi, 1hr
3B Nawai Kuape 1-2, 3r, 1hbp
LF Maggie Gallagher 2-3, 1r, 4rbi, 1hr
RF Trysten Melhart 2-3, 1rbi
C Rachel Ogasawara 1-3, 1rbi
P Gabbie Plain 1-3, 1dbl
CF Kelly Burdick 2-3, 2r

http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=188326

UW vs Western Washington (16-0, 13 runs in the 3rd):

Same lineup as yesterday's second game, Plain starting:

http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=188330

UW vs Saint Martin's (11-0):

http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=188331

Van Zee hasn't played - might have an injury. Her playing 3rd could push Kuape to SS, Bates to 2nd, and Atlee to LF.


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Always fun to watch the Huskies at play. I don't think I saw Taylor Van Zee, but I did see Julia De Ponte, and it makes me wonder where she is going to fit, when she is fit. Madi  Schreyer seems to have disappeared from the roster they handed out. The closest part of the first day was when Kristin Cochran pitched for Bellevue the first two innings. At least I think it was her-she was wearing #33. She only gave up 1 run, unearned in my storybook. I was unable to make it the 2nd day, but I can't wait for February. Go Dawgs.
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Always fun to watch the Huskies at play. I don't think I saw Taylor Van Zee, but I did see Julia De Ponte, and it makes me wonder where she is going to fit, when she is fit. Madi  Schreyer seems to have disappeared from the roster they handed out. The closest part of the first day was when Kristin Cochran pitched for Bellevue the first two innings. At least I think it was her-she was wearing #33. She only gave up 1 run, unearned in my storybook. I was unable to make it the 2nd day, but I can't wait for February. Go Dawgs.



Schreyer was a senior last year, was she not?
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Schreyer was a senior last year, was she not?


Junior athletically
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Junior athletically


Ok.  Now that I think about it, did I not hear it mentioned she would not play her final season?
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Taylor Van Zee was there, she wasn't in uniform. We also missed Sunday, did Gibson play? I don't remember seeing her. Can't wait for February!
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Taylor Van Zee was there, she wasn't in uniform. We also missed Sunday, did Gibson play? I don't remember seeing her. Can't wait for February!


Van Zee & Gibson both had surgery, they'll be ready for the Spring.
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Schreyer was a senior last year, was she not?


She was a junior in eligibility. She graduated last spring, however - to play softball this year, she'd have to have been accepted into a grad program at UW, I believe.

http://www.nwnews.com/index.php/sports/14965-for-madi-schreyer-returning-home-was-the-best-decision
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She was a junior in eligibility. She graduated last spring, however - to play softball this year, she'd have to have been accepted into a grad program at UW, I believe.

http://www.nwnews.com/index.php/sports/14965-for-madi-schreyer-returning-home-was-the-best-decision


Found out about other personal reasons why she decided to not come back.
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I hope you will keep them to yourself.
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She's working for Shawna Wright's Softball University as a "professional instructor":

http://www.softballuniversity.com/professional-instructors/

She was also on the 29-person "selection roster" for Team Canada this summer (both her parents are Canadian), but didn't make the final roster. Jocelyn Cater, Victoria Hayward, Danielle Lawrie, and Jenn Salling are on the Team Canada roster.

https://softball.ca/wnt/athletes.htm
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UW's starting lineup against Bellevue (12-0):

2B Taryn Atlee 1-4, 2r, 1db, 1bb
SS Sis Bates 1-4, 3rbi, 1tpl
DH Morgann Flores 1-3, 1r, 1rbi, 1bb
1B Kirstyn Thomas 1-1, 1r, 3bb
C Emma Helm 2-4, 1r, 1rbi
3B Nawai Kuape 1-2, 2r, 1rbi, 2bb
RF Trysten Melhart 3-4, 2r, 3rbi
LF Amirah Milloy 2-4, 2r, 1rbi
CF Kelly Burdick 3-4, 1r, 4rbi, 1dbl
P Samantha Manti 5.0ip, 2h, 0r, 0bb, 7k

No Taylor Van Zee in this game.

http://stats.statbroadcast.com/broadcast/?id=188325

UW vs Wenatchee Valley:

2B Taryn Atlee 1-3, 3r, 1h, 1dbl, 1bb
SS Sis Bates 1-4
DH Morgann Flores 4-4, 3rbi, 2dbl
1B Kirstyn Thomas 2-4, 3r, 2rbi, 1hr
3B Nawai Kuape 1-2, 3r, 1hbp
LF Maggie Gallagher 2-3, 1r, 4rbi, 1hr
RF Trysten Melhart 2-3, 1rbi
C Rachel Ogasawara 1-3, 1rbi
P Gabbie Plain 1-3, 1dbl
CF Kelly Burdick 2-3, 2r

http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=188326

UW vs Western Washington (16-0, 13 runs in the 3rd):

Same lineup as yesterday's second game, Plain starting:

http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=188330

UW vs Saint Martin's (11-0):

http://stats.statbroadcast.com/statmonitr/?id=188331

Van Zee hasn't played - might have an injury. Her playing 3rd could push Kuape to SS, Bates to 2nd, and Atlee to LF.




Atlee made 13 errors last year at Rutgers and looked a little shaky at times this last weekend, even against that level of competition, so I agree that she'll end up in the OF.  I suspect Deponte will DP or maybe split time with KT at first or Zee at 3rd. Melhart looked good. The problem is against good competition she has not been good (.145 in conference last year). Gallagher, Gibson and some others will push her for that RF spot. I thought Kaupe would be better. She showed her athleticism, robbing a batter of a hit by jumping and snagging a hard hit ball toward left field. She didn't hit great though, going 3-10 with 4 so against not very good competition. Hopefully she'll improve as she gets a little more comfortable.

The first game Manti pitched, I was impressed. I thought she looked sharp and was hitting the corners well, setting up her rise out of the zone or change as her out pitch. I thought she looked like she had beefed up just a little.

It was good to see Plain live (instead of in streaming clips). She is the only pitcher on staff with a truly legitimate drop ball, but she also has a good rise and screw/curve combo. I gunned her first few pitches (curve, drop, drop) and she was up around 66-67, her rise was around 62-63 but it was very hard to detect (vs the drop). She did not throw a single change that I saw. That may be a problem, but she might be okay if she can use all quadrants of the zone with different pitches. I'm excited to see her against some better competition.

Alvelo had some interesting outings. She walked a couple, and hit at least 1 that I can remember. She also showed the dominant rise and overpowering curve that make her one of the best pitchers in the country. I had her first curve at 71, rise at 68. If anything, I thought her curve was moving a little better than last year. At one point she threw 3 change-ups in a row. She then threw two in a row to the next batter (the second being a double and the only hit she gave up on the weekend). She also did throw a few drop balls for strikes which is something that would be great to see in her repertoire.

I'm excited for the spring...

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Alvelo had some interesting outings. She walked a couple, and hit at least 1 that I can remember. She also showed the dominant rise and overpowering curve that make her one of the best pitchers in the country. I had her first curve at 71, rise at 68. If anything, I thought her curve was moving a little better than last year. At one point she threw 3 change-ups in a row. She then threw two in a row to the next batter (the second being a double and the only hit she gave up on the weekend). She also did throw a few drop balls for strikes which is something that would be great to see in her repertoire. 


Semantics certainly but, I'm quite sure you meant 'fastball' instead of 'curve' when you said, "I had her first curve at 71".
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OP cis4584
Alvelo had some interesting outings. She walked a couple, and hit at least 1 that I can remember. She also showed the dominant rise and overpowering curve that make her one of the best pitchers in the country. I had her first curve at 71, rise at 68. If anything, I thought her curve was moving a little better than last year. At one point she threw 3 change-ups in a row. She then threw two in a row to the next batter (the second being a double and the only hit she gave up on the weekend). She also did throw a few drop balls for strikes which is something that would be great to see in her repertoire. 


Semantics certainly but, I'm quite sure you meant 'fastball' instead of 'curve' when you said, "I had her first curve at 71".
I hope cjs isn't a cop and his gun isn't anywhere near where I drive.

Interesting post, including that one line of comedy
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She was a junior in eligibility. She graduated last spring, however - to play softball this year, she'd have to have been accepted into a grad program at UW, I believe.

http://www.nwnews.com/index.php/sports/14965-for-madi-schreyer-returning-home-was-the-best-decision



The article does not say anything about not returning to Udub for her senior season though.
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