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Montana_Wa

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Loved watching these seniors. Took out some big pitchers this season. Go huskies!!
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While it hurts to lose so close, after Flores got injured I did not think the team would make it this far so a big congrats to them.


On another note, while it's difficult to speculate, on Sunday I thought our opponent was going to be UCLA (and I thought we'd have a better chance on paper against FSU for some reason).  How do you think we would have done against them?
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While it hurts to lose so close, after Flores got injured I did not think the team would make it this far so a big congrats to them.


On another note, while it's difficult to speculate, on Sunday I thought our opponent was going to be UCLA (and I thought we'd have a better chance on paper against FSU for some reason).  How do you think we would have done against them?


I agree DJ! I had my doubts. Especially when it came down to lefty pitching.

I thought FSU was our best route. Although I didn't think UW would see any more lefties after beating Oklahoma. I think Huskies may have made a better showing against UCLA on this stage. And Garcia, her arm was shot.

Love this team.
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I agree DJ! I had my doubts. Especially when it came down to lefty pitching.

I thought FSU was our best route. Although I didn't think UW would see any more lefties after beating Oklahoma. I think Huskies may have made a better showing against UCLA on this stage. And Garcia, her arm was shot.

Love this team.


I know we're just engaging in speculation at this point but:

Why do you think UW would have done better against UCLA on this stage?  (My reasoning for thinking we'd have a better shot against FSU was they played more games than us and UCLA had beaten us three times earlier in the season and I didn't know if we could beat them like Oregon a few days earlier)

Couldn't the argument you made about UCLA being tired (which has truth to it) also be applied to FSU in that we thought they'd be tired out?

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I know we're just engaging in speculation at this point but:

Why do you think UW would have done better against UCLA on this stage?  (My reasoning for thinking we'd have a better shot against FSU was they played more games than us and UCLA had beaten us three times earlier in the season and I didn't know if we could beat them like Oregon a few days earlier)

Couldn't the argument you made about UCLA being tired (which has truth to it) also be applied to FSU in that we thought they'd be tired out?



One solid pitcher with UCLA vs two with FSU, and the lefty. I didn't think King would be so solid. I've watched her on the Puerto Rico national team, she hasn't ever thrown that well that many innings in a row.
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I was reading some other forums on this and saw different opinions:  Why do you think UW lost to FSU (and wasn't even able to get many runs against them)?

I've seen opinions say that UW batters became less disciplined and were swinging more than they used to and weren't willing to let balls go by.  On the other hand, I've seen some people say that it was because Washington was more timid at the plate than earlier in the post-season.  It's interesting to see two opposite opinions like that.



(Note:  I'm not trying to take away from FSU earning the win.  I'm just speculating on what UW could have done better).
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One solid pitcher with UCLA vs two with FSU, and the lefty. I didn't think King would be so solid. I've watched her on the Puerto Rico national team, she hasn't ever thrown that well that many innings in a row.


Agree 100%. I dont watch many fsu games but I saw her with PR at the world cup of softball in 2017. She wasnt throwing anything like she did in the wcws. Velocity way up and a better change. She was stone cold.

That first game was a killer and came down to one play really. They hit king pretty well in game 2 early. The fatal flaw I think, was leaving alvelo in too long. I knew she was in trouble when she threw a 70mph rise right down the plate toward the top of the zone and it was called a ball and then she through a flat rise just below that spot and had it smashed by Schellnut. I would have pulled her then with the way plain had dealt the day before. You could always put her back in. Then yeah you could see the huskies pressing more and more as the score got out of control but I think not putting plain in sooner was the root of the problem.

Not to take anything away from FSU at all. They were great and deserve the championship. I couldn't watch after they left alvelo in the 2nd inning onward, though. Had to peace out.
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Bates played, but was injured.
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I was reading some other forums on this and saw different opinions:  Why do you think UW lost to FSU (and wasn't even able to get many runs against them)?

I've seen opinions say that UW batters became less disciplined and were swinging more than they used to and weren't willing to let balls go by.  On the other hand, I've seen some people say that it was because Washington was more timid at the plate than earlier in the post-season.  It's interesting to see two opposite opinions like that.



(Note:  I'm not trying to take away from FSU earning the win.  I'm just speculating on what UW could have done better).


UW struggled against lefties all year.

Perhaps the "less disciplined" aspect was them recognizing this consciously and trying something different or sub-consciously and pressing.

But the lack of runs was not surprising. The Oklahoma games were the anomaly.
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UW can't hit lefties.... no big shocker, even if Meggo weren't so dominant in general
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UW can't hit lefties.... no big shocker, even if Meggo weren't so dominant in general


I'm glad there's a lefty pitcher on staff now. Stoked for 2019!
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UW can't hit lefties.... no big shocker, even if Meggo weren't so dominant in general


WA did struggle with lefties last year. I heard they spent a lot of extra time in preparing specifically for Parker and Lowary in particular.

The thing is King was not really dominant throughout the year against good competition. She had a 2.43 era against rpi top 25 teams going into the WCWS. Good but not really dominant. She just went on a tear throughout the wcws. She gave up 1 er in 34.1 ip (.204 era) in the wcws. Even still in that last game the 3 runs should have been enough to win given how WA pitched previously. Just didnt work out that way.

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All the planets aligned at just the right time for Florida State when it mattered most. During the semi-finals, UCLA’s 6 runs in the If-game would’ve typically been more than enough if R.Garcia wasn’t overused & exhausted at that point. Florida State was riding high, and they never looked back.
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Agree 100%. I dont watch many fsu games but I saw her with PR at the world cup of softball in 2017. She wasnt throwing anything like she did in the wcws. Velocity way up and a better change. She was stone cold.

That first game was a killer and came down to one play really. They hit king pretty well in game 2 early. The fatal flaw I think, was leaving alvelo in too long. I knew she was in trouble when she threw a 70mph rise right down the plate toward the top of the zone and it was called a ball and then she through a flat rise just below that spot and had it smashed by Schellnut. I would have pulled her then with the way plain had dealt the day before. You could always put her back in. Then yeah you could see the huskies pressing more and more as the score got out of control but I think not putting plain in sooner was the root of the problem.

Not to take anything away from FSU at all. They were great and deserve the championship. I couldn't watch after they left alvelo in the 2nd inning onward, though. Had to peace out.



Could you explain that one play in the first game...what you meant by that?

What I heard is that it was bottom of 7, no outs and UW had a runner on first.  I forget who was up at bat, but I heard she made a really good bunt/hit that was hit hard near the FSU third baseman.  The third baseman then made a diving catch to barely get it which got the UW batter out and was then able to get the ball to first before the UW runner could get back...resulting in a double play.
I didn't see it but from what I've been told, if the ball had just been a couple inches or so higher or in another direction it would have been a good hit.  Would that have won the game?  Possibly not in and of itself, but UW probably would have had at least 1st and 2nd, no outs...which was a lot better than the situation they did find themselves in.


Is that about right?
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Could you explain that one play in the first game...what you meant by that?

What I heard is that it was bottom of 7, no outs and UW had a runner on first.  I forget who was up at bat, but I heard she made a really good bunt/hit that was hit hard near the FSU third baseman.  The third baseman then made a diving catch to barely get it which got the UW batter out and was then able to get the ball to first before the UW runner could get back...resulting in a double play.
I didn't see it but from what I've been told, if the ball had just been a couple inches or so higher or in another direction it would have been a good hit.  Would that have won the game?  Possibly not in and of itself, but UW probably would have had at least 1st and 2nd, no outs...which was a lot better than the situation they did find themselves in.


Is that about right?


Yep, although I thought there was a runner on 1 and 2 but my memory could be failing me. They may not have won that one anyway, it's true, but that one play was a killer with both pitchers dealing and the top of the order looming. 
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Nah just a player on one
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I want to make sure I have the history right:


If that play had gone through and UW had runners on 1st and 2nd with nobody out...what part of the order would they have been in next?  In other words, would UW have got another chance with TVZ and Julia Deponte?
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I want to make sure I have the history right:


If that play had gone through and UW had runners on 1st and 2nd with nobody out...what part of the order would they have been in next?  In other words, would UW have got another chance with TVZ and Julia Deponte?


Next batter would have been burdick (who singled in that at bat which would have scored at least atlee). Then the top of the order with vanzee, bates and deponte. As it was, burdick singled and zee grounded out to end the game (which likely would have score the winning run if atlee hadn't scored on the single since it was hard hit to the 3-4 hole).
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