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Nedpics

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I'm reading the stats line, and it says that Melhart grounded out to the shortstop unassisted? I can't for the life of me figure that one out. Did she fall down on a bunt? Anyone have other ideas? Keep in mind that she is one of the fastest of the Huskies and could beat out a ground ball to the shortstop, even with an assist from the 1st baseman.
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W: Alvelo 6ip, 5h, 3r, 2er, 1k
Manti 1ip, 2h, 2r, 1er
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Alvelo with a complete-game 1-0 shut-out of Oklahoma! 7ip, 5h, 0r, 2bb, 2k, 1hp


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Win the big games, lose the one that they should've rolled in, makes sense...
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Originally Posted by Nedpics
I'm reading the stats line, and it says that Melhart grounded out to the shortstop unassisted? I can't for the life of me figure that one out. Did she fall down on a bunt? Anyone have other ideas? Keep in mind that she is one of the fastest of the Huskies and could beat out a ground ball to the shortstop, even with an assist from the 1st baseman.


Lol,  I spent quite a while wondering about that myself.  Maybe they were employing some really weird defensive shift where the ss was actually close to 1b... but I think more likely it was just a mistake.
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Alvelo is UW's best pitcher, but not their only good pitcher.


Tell me who else is good.
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Tell me who else is good.


Madi Schreyer
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Madi Schreyer


Taran Alvelo then the rest imo.
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Madi Schreyer


Just wondering bc I haven't paid enough attention to her at UW but is Madi able to go a full 7 innings now?

She definitely has the talent to be good. Just wondering about stamina.
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If Alvelo can pitch back-to-back games on the same day and toss a shutout in the second, then I'm not sure pitching depth is that big of an issue.
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Can't have just one kid against a conference that can bite you on most weekends. In 3 of the P5s, you can get away with it though
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Just wondering bc I haven't paid enough attention to her at UW but is Madi able to go a full 7 innings now?

She definitely has the talent to be good. Just wondering about stamina.



Ha. She was great for 6 against BYU, then gave up 3 in the 7th. Still, if she can go 13-4 again this year then it would be a huge boon.

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Ha. She was great for 6 against BYU, then gave up 3 in the 7th. Still, if she can go 13-4 again this year then it would be a huge boon.


Did she beat a Pac-12 top team last year?
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Just wondering bc I haven't paid enough attention to her at UW but is Madi able to go a full 7 innings now? She definitely has the talent to be good. Just wondering about stamina.


She held BYU to one run (unearned) through five innings, before they got to her for 3 RBI in the 6th. Tarr might have gone with her an inning too long, but might have hesitated to bring in Manti (a true freshman). BYU does have a pretty decent team.

In the Super-Regional last season, she held Alabama to 2 earned runs over 7.1 innings pitched.

Sam Manti is a hard-thrower (ala Alvelo). She's one reason that Stangel isn't pitching this season, but is focusing on hitting and playing left-field.

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She held BYU to one run (unearned) through five innings, before they got to her for 3 RBI in the 6th. Tarr might have gone with her an inning too long, but might have hesitated to bring in Manti (a true freshman). BYU does have a pretty decent team.

In the Super-Regional last season, she held Alabama to 2 earned runs over 7.1 innings pitched.

Sam Manti is a hard-thrower (ala Alvelo). She's one reason that Stangel isn't pitching this season, but is focusing on hitting and playing left-field.



Dang forgot Manti was there.

Madi has constantly been Bamas kyrptonite. Held Bama down while at Stanford to help win that game too. But she only went like 4 innings in that game. I like her as a pitcher, but I know she's not at the talent level of Alvelo.
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If Alvelo can pitch back-to-back games on the same day and toss a shutout in the second, then I'm not sure pitching depth is that big of an issue.


I'm going to guess you can remember Ricketts freshman and sophomore years where she was run into the ground by postseason time.
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Dang forgot Manti was there. Madi has constantly been Bamas kyrptonite. Held Bama down while at Stanford to help win that game too. But she only went like 4 innings in that game. I like her as a pitcher, but I know she's not at the talent level of Alvelo.


She's not a fire-baller like Alvelo (or Manti), but needs to change speeds/location to keep batters off-balance. Can be hard to get good hitters out three or four times through the lineup. She also had some mechanical issues last season, with her "chicken-winging" her pitches. If she keeps her pitching elbow in...

Hopefully, Manti will be able to effectively fill the role of late-inning reliever.
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I'm going to guess you can remember Ricketts freshman and sophomore years where she was run into the ground by postseason time.


And Lawrie in 2010...
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I'm going to guess you can remember Ricketts freshman and sophomore years where she was run into the ground by postseason time.


       I recall Jennie Finch running out of gas against Cal 2002 in the title game.
        
       Mowatt could not sleep well cause of her aching arm
       She threw 1,035 pitches in the WS.
       Ppl say she pitched all of Arizona's games in the playoffs that year.
    

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Was that before the lane being instituted?
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       I recall Jennie Finch running out of gas against Cal 2002 in the title game.
        
       Mowatt could not sleep well cause of her aching arm
       She threw 1,035 pitches in the WS.
       Ppl say she pitched all of Arizona's games in the playoffs that year.
    



Finch made it to the championship round. Ricketts didn't sniff that championship round until Gas came on as a quality #2.
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Was that before the lane being instituted?


Yes. Lane wasn't an "issue" until after Christie Hamilton.
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Finch made it to the championship round. Ricketts didn't sniff that championship round until Gas came on as a quality #2.


Lauren Chamberlain hitting 30 home runs as a freshman a little bit of a factor in Ricketts getting to the championship round, too. 
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So, the lane wasn't termed 'the Mowatt lane' on her screwball?
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So, the lane wasn't termed 'the Mowatt lane' on her screwball?

It is by everyone except her mom who vehemently denies that it had anything to do with TM, and I guess Jayrot
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It is by everyone except her mom who vehemently denies that it had anything to do with TM, and I guess Jayrot


I'm not saying she wasn't the spearhead. I'm just saying no one really cared (or enforced it) until after Christie Hamilton finished up her wcws run.

Edit to Add: keep in mind the enforcement didn't happen until the year of Jordan Taylor (2010) a year after Hamilton and 3 years after TM.
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Lauren Chamberlain hitting 30 home runs as a freshman a little bit of a factor in Ricketts getting to the championship round, too. 


Obviously the offense mattered but I still argue dropping from 280 innings as a sophomore to 180 innings as a senior played a major role as well (if not the major role). She threw a 100 less innings in a year she won the championship as opposed to 100 more innings in a year she went 2nQ as a sophomore.

Or just looking at simple numbers, she gave up 7 runs in 2 games in 2011 wcws vs 8 runs in 4 games in 2013.
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Obviously the offense mattered but I still argue dropping from 280 innings as a sophomore to 180 innings as a senior played a major role as well (if not the major role). She threw a 100 less innings in a year she won the championship as opposed to 100 more innings in a year she went 2nQ as a sophomore. Or just looking at simple numbers, she gave up 7 runs in 2 games in 2011 wcws vs 8 runs in 4 games in 2013.


Not disputing that Michelle Gascoigne was integral in the Sooners' championship season, capped by her splendid, WCWS-clinching win over Tennessee. But I think you're over-emphasizing the significance of the fewer innings Ricketts pitched in 2013.

Look at the year before, 2012, when Ricketts pitched a career-high 292 innings and led OU into the championship series against Alabama, losing two games to one. Recall that OU led midway through the decisive third game before a rain delay broke Ricketts' concentration (and poise), and Bama staged the big rally. I don't think fatigue was the problem.

All things being equal, it's better to have a Ricketts AND a Gascoigne on a staff. But it works the other way, too -- re: Paige Parker last season with not a lot of help in the limelight.






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Not disputing that Michelle Gascoigne was integral in the Sooners' championship season, capped by her splendid, WCWS-clinching win over Tennessee. But I think you're over-emphasizing the significance of the fewer innings Ricketts pitched in 2013.

Look at the year before, 2012, when Ricketts pitched a career-high 292 innings and led OU into the championship series against Alabama, losing two games to one. Recall that OU led midway through the decisive third game before a rain delay broke Ricketts' concentration (and poise), and Bama staged the big rally. I don't think fatigue was the problem.

All things being equal, it's better to have a Ricketts AND a Gascoigne on a staff. But it works the other way, too -- re: Paige Parker last season with not a lot of help in the limelight.








Agree on the whole. I will add to this that the beauty of the 2016 gasso championship is she learned from 2012. In 2012 she brought Ricketts into a game 2 that was already out of hand. It added innings to her arm and gave the opponent more looks. In 2016, she left Parker out Game 2 when she might have even had a chance to win game 2 with Parker on the mound. (Also could say she learned from 2015 super-regional.)
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