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I was going to post this in that idiotic author's  "the Left doesn't care if people die" thread but thought I'd share my thoughts here instead.


The day will come where these ISIS terrorists will be overrun and their territory taken back.  The terrorists will largely disappear back to wherever they came from and the land returned to those who lived there before.  I think most believe we'll get there in time.  Once that happens, what will we have then?

The ideology is not going to disappear too.  Thousands of terrorists will remain and their cells will no doubt be located in homes, farms, caves, or whatever throughout the world.  ME, Europe, North Africa, US, and all around the globe.  There will be ample inspiration over the internet to become suicide bombers and create terrorism as we see so much of today.  In Boston, Brussels, France, Germany, and other Countries, we'll see tragic terrorist events for years to come.  What military action will the Right call for then?  Where will we send boots on the ground when this ideology is spreading over the internet and terror pops up in different lands month after month?  Where will we bomb and how will that help?

This is an extreme evil ideology Muslims must ultimately confront.  I believe President Obama knows this and is pursuing a strategy accordingly.  For the United States to lose composure and overreact would be disastrous over the long term.  Our "might" may dissipate the terrorists in the desert but it will not kill their beliefs and agenda.  Overwhelming military action by the West can only lead to the unavoidable collateral casualties, deaths of innocent Muslim civilians, which will only exacerbate the problem.  The destruction of property and citizens will do little to bring us Muslim support, a support we'll need so much more when terrorists are interspersed throughout communities as opposed to occupying some open ME desert.

If Western nations play their cards right, I think we'll have the necessary Muslim support when this fight on terror becomes a fight in our global neighborhoods, one where we'll depend on the community to uncover and expose the bad guys.  It will do no good to alienate the people we will ultimately have to depend on.
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On another thought, let's promote gay cake bakers, transvestites in women's restrooms and common core.  Let's focus on fluff, to hell with making this world safe again.  We should all be comforted because dewy has said they will all slink back into their caves if we just give it time.
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I was going to post this in that idiotic author's  "the Left doesn't care if people die" thread but thought I'd share my thoughts here instead.


The day will come where these ISIS terrorists will be overrun and their territory taken back.  The terrorists will largely disappear back to wherever they came from and the land returned to those who lived there before.  I think most believe we'll get there in time.  Once that happens, what will we have then?

The ideology is not going to disappear too.  Thousands of terrorists will remain and their cells will no doubt be located in homes, farms, caves, or whatever throughout the world.  ME, Europe, North Africa, US, and all around the globe.  There will be ample inspiration over the internet to become suicide bombers and create terrorism as we see so much of today.  In Boston, Brussels, France, Germany, and other Countries, we'll see tragic terrorist events for years to come.  What military action will the Right call for then?  Where will we send boots on the ground when this ideology is spreading over the internet and terror pops up in different lands month after month?  Where will we bomb and how will that help?

This is an extreme evil ideology Muslims must ultimately confront.  I believe President Obama knows this and is pursuing a strategy accordingly.  For the United States to lose composure and overreact would be disastrous over the long term.  Our "might" may dissipate the terrorists in the desert but it will not kill their beliefs and agenda.  Overwhelming military action by the West can only lead to the unavoidable collateral casualties, deaths of innocent Muslim civilians, which will only exacerbate the problem.  The destruction of property and citizens will do little to bring us Muslim support, a support we'll need so much more when terrorists are interspersed throughout communities as opposed to occupying some open ME desert.

If Western nations play their cards right, I think we'll have the necessary Muslim support when this fight on terror becomes a fight in our global neighborhoods, one where we'll depend on the community to uncover and expose the bad guys.  It will do no good to alienate the people we will ultimately have to depend on.


so sit on your hand while you play pocket pool with the other one.  Your POS president painted us into this corner

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I was going to post this in that idiotic author's  "the Left doesn't care if people die" thread but thought I'd share my thoughts here instead.


The day will come where these ISIS terrorists will be overrun and their territory taken back.  The terrorists will largely disappear back to wherever they came from and the land returned to those who lived there before.  I think most believe we'll get there in time.  Once that happens, what will we have then? Another al-Queda styled terrorist organization. Like we have now.

The ideology is not going to disappear too.  Thousands of terrorists will remain and their cells will no doubt be located in homes, farms, caves, or whatever throughout the world.  ME, Europe, North Africa, US, and all around the globe.  They already are. There will be ample inspiration over the internet to become suicide bombers and create terrorism as we see so much of today.  There already is. In Boston, Brussels, France, Germany, and other Countries, we'll see tragic terrorist events for years to come.  What military action will the Right call for then?  Where will we send boots on the ground when this ideology is spreading over the internet and terror pops up in different lands month after month? This "spreading" has been happening for years, you act like it's some future event.  Where will we bomb and how will that help? Everywhere they are. It will kill them. You apparently don't realize Obama is bombing terrorists today, and has been for quite some time. Are you suggesting this strategy doesn't work? You're right, it isn't working. Obama long ago said he wasn't going to play Whack-A-Mole, yet that is exactly what he is doing.

This is an extreme evil ideology Muslims must ultimately confront.  I believe President Obama knows this and is pursuing a strategy accordingly. Wait for the Muslims? They have failed against terrorism for over 36 years.  That "waiting strategy is working really well, right?  Obama and Dewey will tell you so. For the United States to lose composure and overreact would be disastrous over the long term.  Our "might" may dissipate the terrorists in the desert but it will not kill their beliefs and agenda.  Overwhelming military action by the West can only lead to the unavoidable collateral casualties, deaths of innocent Muslim civilians, which will only exacerbate the problem.  The destruction of property and citizens will do little to bring us Muslim support, sitting on the sidelines while Assad and ISIS annihilate Syria and Iraq, while drawing red lines and making assurances to "rebels" hasn't exactly endeared us to the Muslims either.  we'll need so much more when terrorists are interspersed throughout communities as opposed to occupying some open ME desert. You think the average Muslim will be happy to see the ISIS living in their midst, as opposed to isolated out in the desert? Seriously? The terrorist next door is better than the terrorist five hundred miles away? Yeah, sure.

But reality is that ISIS already lives among the people, they aren't sitting isolated out in the desert, the people subject to their control are already miserable, and we aren't stopping ISIS in this scenario. I understand what you're saying, it's a great theory, but it isn't working in reality.


If Western nations play their cards right, I think we'll have the necessary Muslim support when this fight on terror becomes a fight in our global neighborhoods, one where we'll depend on the community to uncover and expose the bad guys.  It will do no good to alienate the people we will ultimately have to depend on. Again, terrorists are already in our neighborhoods, from the ME to Europe to the US, they live among us, and this wishful strategy that they'll expose their operations to their neighbors who will then turn them in, isn't working.


You should read up on topics before you start yet another thread aimed at defending Obama's limp-wristed policy. 

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While our citizens die, dewy wants to wait on the impossible.  This is what CAIR suggests to Muslims

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War on Islamic Terrorism

There, fixed the title for you.
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By god I think they are liars.  That's why they fit so good with the libtard movement.

"Speaking is a means to achieve objectives. If a praiseworthy aim is attainable through both telling the truth and lying, it is unlawful to accomplish through lying because there is no need for it. When it is possible to achieve such an aim by lying but not telling the truth, it is permissible to lie if attaining the goal is permissible...and obligatory to lie if the goal is obligatory."

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http://www.provethebible.net/T2-Hist/Islam-8-al-Taqiyya.htm

EX:

It all begs the question, "In dealing with Islam, should we feel more comfortable dealing with...

A.) those most-likely-to-lie-to-us groups or persons who say they want to be our friends, or ...

B.) those most-likely-to-tell-us-the-truth groups or persons who say they want us wiped off the face of the earth?"

Answer that question well and maybe you should run for President.


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War on Islamic Terrorism

There, fixed the title for you.


He and alfred e. neuman just can't bring themselves to address the problem can they

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The day will come where these ISIS terrorists will be overrun and their territory taken back.  The terrorists will largely disappear back to wherever they came from and the land returned to those who lived there before.  I think most believe we'll get there in time.  Once that happens, what will we have then? Another al-Queda styled terrorist organization. Like we have now. We'll have terrorists in a different location, or should I say many locations.

The ideology is not going to disappear too.  Thousands of terrorists will remain and their cells will no doubt be located in homes, farms, caves, or whatever throughout the world.  ME, Europe, North Africa, US, and all around the globe.  They already are. There will be ample inspiration over the internet to become suicide bombers and create terrorism as we see so much of today.  There already is. In Boston, Brussels, France, Germany, and other Countries, we'll see tragic terrorist events for years to come.  What military action will the Right call for then?  Where will we send boots on the ground when this ideology is spreading over the internet and terror pops up in different lands month after month? This "spreading" has been happening for years, you act like it's some future event.  Fair enough but I wanted to emphasize they don't disappear when we run them out of Syria and Iraq.  Where will we bomb and how will that help? Everywhere they are. It will kill them. You apparently don't realize Obama is bombing terrorists today, and has been for quite some time. Much more methodically than years past.  Btw, you might notice we aren't bombing Brussels and Paris.  I think we've finally learned if we inadvertently kill innocent families, we probably just create more suicide bombers for future terrorist attacks.  I think we're much more careful now and the GOP criticizes the President for his caution.  Are you suggesting this strategy doesn't work? You're right, it isn't working. Obama long ago said he wasn't going to play Whack-A-Mole, yet that is exactly what he is doing.  Again, I don't think so.  I think we are being much more careful to avoid killing innocent Muslims, which only enrages the people we ultimately need to fight these terrorists.  As I said, the West cannot win this war, and we can only make it worse if just bomb indiscriminately.

This is an extreme evil ideology Muslims must ultimately confront.  I believe President Obama knows this and is pursuing a strategy accordingly. Wait for the Muslims? They have failed against terrorism for over 36 years.  It will be 36 more if Muslims don't take aim at this problem.  That "waiting strategy is working really well, right?  Obama and Dewey will tell you so. Again, Western nations cannot win this war.  For the United States to lose composure and overreact would be disastrous over the long term.  Our "might" may dissipate the terrorists in the desert but it will not kill their beliefs and agenda.  Overwhelming military action by the West can only lead to the unavoidable collateral casualties, deaths of innocent Muslim civilians, which will only exacerbate the problem.  The destruction of property and citizens will do little to bring us Muslim support, sitting on the sidelines while Assad and ISIS annihilate Syria and Iraq, while drawing red lines and making assurances to "rebels" hasn't exactly endeared us to the Muslims either.  I think we're on the sidelines supporting regional troops and you saying otherwise is mostly spin.  That said, I think Obama is operating in the right manner.  we'll need so much more when terrorists are interspersed throughout communities as opposed to occupying some open ME desert. You think the average Muslim will be happy to see the ISIS living in their midst, as opposed to isolated out in the desert? Seriously? Not at all, and as you said, they already are living there.  That said, a Muslim community in support of the West will join the fight and expose these bad elements.  I don't think we've had enough support from the Muslim community in the past.  The terrorist next door is better than the terrorist five hundred miles away? Yeah, sure. As soon as ground troops clear out the desert, that's where they will be.  In the neighborhoods.  Brings me back to the point of this thread.  What do we do then?  We'd better have a Muslim community prepared to turn in fellow Muslims that appear suspicious.  We need a community that looks favorably on the West before we can expect their help.

But reality is that ISIS already lives among the people, they aren't sitting isolated out in the desert, the people subject to their control are already miserable, and we aren't stopping ISIS in this scenario. I understand what you're saying, it's a great theory, but it isn't working in reality. I think a careful strategy, one that doesn't result in great collateral damage, will go a long way to winning support from the regional members.


If Western nations play their cards right, I think we'll have the necessary Muslim support when this fight on terror becomes a fight in our global neighborhoods, one where we'll depend on the community to uncover and expose the bad guys.  It will do no good to alienate the people we will ultimately have to depend on. Again, terrorists are already in our neighborhoods, from the ME to Europe to the US, they live among us, and this wishful strategy that they'll expose their operations to their neighbors who will then turn them in, isn't working.  This still doesn't answer what we do once the desert is cleared and the terrorists are in the neighborhoods.  That's the plan we should be using to great lengths now.  How many surveillance/intelligence man hours can we get by replacing one bomb?  Now multiply that by a lot of bombs.  I think this President is making better use of our resources, not to mention the avoiding vast number of body bags returning home, and has focused on working with a regional community that, in the end, will be responsible for solving this problem.    
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More ground troops are being sent in by this POS and dewy is talking about body bags. Good timing
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Anyway, back to the question at hand.  If ISIS is cleared from Iraq and Syria and moved back underground, how do we fight all the terrorist attacks around the world that will certainly continue?  How do we stop Boston, Paris, San Bernardino, and Brussels?  It all comes back to a Muslim solution, regardless if terrorists are in our cities or in the desert.  Muslims need to eventually stamp out this extreme ideology as the West will never win this war.  Our only hope is to stop some of these attacks and we'll need Muslim participation to achieve greater success.
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Yeah, about those body bags, dewy says "anyway"
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Anyway, back to the question at hand.  If ISIS is cleared from Iraq and Syria and moved back underground, how do we fight all the terrorist attacks around the world that will certainly continue?  How do we stop Boston, Paris, San Bernardino, and Brussels?  It all comes back to a Muslim solution, regardless if terrorists are in our cities or in the desert.  Muslims need to eventually stamp out this extreme ideology as the West will never win this war.  Our only hope is to stop some of these attacks and we'll need Muslim participation to achieve greater success.


Sure why not dewy. Leave it up so some sand fleas to corral their own. They've proven that they have no interest in protecting OUR interests. No thanks on your ideas where hundreds, if not thousands more are killed worldwide.

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This is nothing but another pointless thread for Dewey to blindly defend another failing Obama policy.

Any suggestion that Obama might be even a tiny bit wrong is strictly prohibited. [rofl]

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The one thing this forum doesn't come up short on is "Obama is wrong" suggestions.

Think about it.  Shock and awe inadvertently kills six innocent Muslim families.  This leads to a couple dozen new ISIS recruits and maybe five suicide bombers.  This in turn leads to 300+ Europeans or Americans killed.  Clearly it makes sense to play the support role, be much more deliberate in our military actions, eliminate top ISIS leaders when possible like we did today, and let the regional members fight this war.  Count me as one who thinks our leaders are approaching this fight about right.
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The one thing this forum doesn't come up short on is "Obama is wrong" suggestions.

Think about it.  Shock and awe inadvertently kills six innocent Muslim families.  This leads to a couple dozen new ISIS recruits and maybe five suicide bombers.  This in turn leads to 300+ Europeans or Americans killed.  Clearly it makes sense to play the support role, be much more deliberate in our military actions, eliminate top ISIS leaders when possible like we did today, and let the regional members fight this war.  Count me as one who thinks our leaders are approaching this fight about right.


Great wonderful, end of thread. Obama the Magnificent!

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There is no war on terror....It's only political rhetoric by both sides.....
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This has to be Muslims fighting Muslims face to face, (I remember a time when Republicans suggested we need to make others learn to fend for themselves).  The US should be in the support role.  It will be less meaningful for Western powers to take out ISIS.  We'll simply be expected to return time and time again.

Once Muslims do defeat ISIS, or drive them away, there will still be a "Brussels" type attack in our homeland.  Unfortunately, there is no "finishing the job".  Moving ISIS out of the desert isn't going to prevent another attack in our Country.  We'll have marathon, New York, Federal Building, San Bernardino, anthrax, and other terrorist attacks in the years to come.  I simply believe if we have the Muslim community with us, rather than against us, we'll have far fewer.  People like Donald Trump and Ted Cruz are making that goal much harder.
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And with people like hilLIARy and barack in office we won't lose troops, we'll lose citizens in our streets. #libtardlogic
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Dewey, you have seriously stepped in a big pile of Dog Sh#t.

The Obama God that you worship supports Shia Muslims. Our DOD has supported Sunni Muslim "Tribes" since before and after WWII

If you are trying to offer some sort of rationalization for the complete and total failure of your Obama God to deal with ISIS, then OK, we can talk about the reasons for that failure.

If you are attempting to in any way justify the reason that Obama, is Supporting Shia Muslims, giving Iran Billions of dollars, and Nukes, and then at the same time using our CIA and DOD to target US and Saudi Sunni backed ISIS forces in a managed conflict, I would like to have a discussion with you.

I really don't think you have any idea of what is going on over there. I think you are completely ignorant of ME political and Religious history.

Is there any reason to continue having a discussion with you?


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Really, if you would offer some type of explanation for your blind support of your Obama God, i would engage. Do you have any knowledge of the ME? Have you ever studied any ancient history to put the current conflict into prospective? Really? After all this time, all your arguments are based on your blind support of a President? Surely you have some knowledge of historical, and current political reality. I mean, you aren't really that empty are you?
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For those like Bill O'Reilly who want significant shock and awe bombing of ISIS, not to mention ground troops, imagine how many intelligence/surveillance man hours could replace each unnecessary bomb?  An all out Western operation attacking ISIS leads to more terrorist cells and more suicide bombers, worldwide.  Maybe our resources would be better spent tracking/surveilling the bad guys around the globe rather than creating more by getting over involved in a Muslim conflict.
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dewy, you speak in riddles.  Your thread is titled War on terror and you propose doing nothing just like the POS POTUS
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For those like Bill O'Reilly who want significant shock and awe bombing of ISIS, not to mention ground troops, imagine how many intelligence/surveillance man hours could replace each unnecessary bomb?  An all out Western operation attacking ISIS leads to more terrorist cells and more suicide bombers, worldwide.  Maybe our resources would be better spent tracking/surveilling the bad guys around the globe rather than creating more by getting over involved in a Muslim conflict.


You don't think this is happening now?  How were our forces able to take out ISIS #2 without tracking and surveilling?  Also, the way that happened was with boots on the ground.

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pabar - It's happening for sure.  However, if we choose to take the shock and awe road, it will take away resources that may be better used to surveil these terrorist cells around the world.
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Yeah pabar, it will be harder to keep track of them if we kill them.

Rather than kill them, let's watch them.

#brilliant!

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