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HunterBean

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Looking for any insight about walking on to a Division 1 midmajor program. For example, what the process is like, what the coaches are looking for etc., what to expect? Long story short, the player was originally a D1 verbal as a utility player but was offered a better financial package academically at another school so is attending that school. This new school would be considered a step up softball wise from the original school she verballed to. Thanks in advance!
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Before you do anything, make sure you have your release from the program. I assume it's still required even if you are only on Academic money. 

Typically most programs have "open tryouts" early in September but you have to be enrolled in school. Not knowing what Mid Major you are speaking of, I would think if the athlete is an above average player, she would have a pretty good chance of joining the program, especially without scholarship money involved. As far as what the coach is looking for, do yourself a favor and contact the staff before you make any decisions so you're not disappointed once enrolled. The coaches will give you a very good indication if they are interested or not. 

Other posters with direct experience can probably provide more detailed info. Good luck.


spazsdad

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The op states the player was verballed so no need for any release as there is nothing to be released from.
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The op states the player was verballed so no need for any release as there is nothing to be released from.


Verballed to the initial school but went to another program where the financial package was better. Not sure if that changed things. 

Whether you verballed or not, if you joined a program, wouldn't you still need a release to pursue another program...or is the release only needed if you were on any amount of athletic scholarship money? I wasn't sure about that.
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Outofzone has some very good points, let the coaches know now that she is walking on, they may have an opportunity to see her prior to starting in the fall if she is playing travel ball. They may also give her an off season workout schedule along with other things to do.

When there keep you mouth shut and eyes open, learn from yours and others mistakes and try not to repeat. Abide by the coaches rules, not the other players interpretation of those rules. Be agressive all the time but not dirty or obnoxious. A free coachable player with skill is always kept around, but since you are not on scholarship you need to preform!

My dd was a midmajor walk on, played many games as a base runner her first 2 years before starting. She made the regionals 3 of her 4 years and 1 super regional her senior season

This is what I remember her telling a group of high school players after she had graduated.

HunterBean

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There are no issues with a release- she never signed her NLI because she found out about the academic scholarship offer at the end of October of her senior year. She is finishing up her travel ball season and has been communicating with the coaches & obtained their summer workouts. She will not need any money from this school athletically ever (she is a very high academic kid and her academic scholarship was very nice). In some ways, she wonders is this will make them nervous? A lot of people we know that have gone on to play college ball kind of scratch their heads when we tell them she still wants to play ball in college even though she doesn't need any money athletically. Her response is she just loves the game and that's why.

We don't know anyone who has ever been through a walk on (everyone we know was recruited) and have no clue what to expect about the process.
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I played in college as a walk on but it was a million years ago and it was baseball.  Keep in mind that there are "walk ons" and "preferred walk ons."  If your dd is not a "preferred walk on," she might be fighting an uphill battle.  I was a, "preferred walk on."  I also was a high academic value for the baseball program of my school and didn't get a cent of athletic money.  (Mostly because I was a terrible athlete.  LOL)  So, keep in mind that things might have changed since I did it but I found that I was the "go for" for everything.  I found out that players on scholarship had a distinct advantage since they have athletic money.  However, it can be overcome with hard work.  You dd will have to have the attitude that she will carry all the equipment.  She will go last in drills.  She will not get the BP others get.  She will have to work on her own.  Here is the good news.  I found players who were willing to work with me and so, I did ok for a non athlete trying hard to get playing time.  It is possible.  Good luck!
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I know several current and recently graduated walk-ons although they are from major D1 programs.

In general, I would imagine that most programs would be very happy to have a strong academic player on their roster as there are gpa requirements and incentives in many coaches' contracts.

I've never heard of any of them having to carry equipment or do other menial jobs (any more than other players), but I don't know if that would be different on a mid-major.

As far as playing time and practice reps, from what I've seen it's merit based, although I suppose that would depend strongly on the specific coach. I know some non-preferred walk-ons that have worked their way into being every day starters. It's certainly possible and I wish your daughter luck.
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See Kelli Seguro's story at Washington. She tried out and was cut, but then was invited back. HM All-Pac12 as a sophomore, All-Pacific Region 2nd Team as a senior.



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There are no issues with a release- she never signed her NLI because she found out about the academic scholarship offer at the end of October of her senior year. She is finishing up her travel ball season and has been communicating with the coaches & obtained their summer workouts. She will not need any money from this school athletically ever (she is a very high academic kid and her academic scholarship was very nice). In some ways, she wonders is this will make them nervous? A lot of people we know that have gone on to play college ball kind of scratch their heads when we tell them she still wants to play ball in college even though she doesn't need any money athletically. Her response is she just loves the game and that's why.

We don't know anyone who has ever been through a walk on (everyone we know was recruited) and have no clue what to expect about the process.


Good luck to her, I am sure a lot of coaches would love to get a well rounded utility player for "free", especially if they have a good chance of raising the teams overall GPA. A lot of players "love the game", but 6am workouts..."not so much"
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Good luck to your daughter! Mine is in a very similar situation, in fact she went to the first round of tryouts yesterday for a D1 program hoping to walk on. She too verballed young but chose the school she is at for academic reasons and financial reasons (she received a full academic scholarship). In her situation, she signed an NLI in the fall and found out about the academic scholarship opportunity at the other school a few months later so had to go through the release process and was granted a complete release.
My daughter's tryout was scheduled for an hour, there were only a handful of girls and they did infield and outfield, hitting, base running and pitching/catching. She seems to think if they make it past this screening, they will practice with the team for a week to see if they can compete.
Again, good luck to your daughter!!
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Hopefully she makes it. Love stories like that
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