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mikec

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I am shocked.

I really have no idea what sort of response is appropriate when an nagry mob storms an embassy and kills our ambassador.  However, it seems that statements like "I strongly condemn this action" aren't quite enough.

What should we do?
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Obama apologized to the animals that stormed our embassy. Said he was sorry for them being offended.
Here is more examples of the great Obummer's foreign policy:
USA and Israel in open feud...
White House declines Netanyahu request to meet with Obama...
'Schedule Full'...
Announces 'Letterman' Appearance...

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American Ambassador 'Suffocated To Death'...
**WARNING** **GRAPHIC PHOTO** REBELS PARADE CORPSE...
Romney Calls Obama Response: 'Disgraceful'...
Muslims Attack US Embassies...
Mobs with guns and rocket-propelled grenades...
FLASHBACK: Hillary Clinton boast on Gaddafi: 'We came, we saw, he died'...


 

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I guess a call to the head of the mob this administration put into power, followed by sending their ambassador packing, might be in order. Little good that would do. The Arab world, in particular Muslims, hate our guts. Yet we bend over backwards not insult their religion, and our President gave a speech in Cairo, apologizing for America's terrible past in the region. These people are not just fanatics, they are becoming the norm in the middle east. Arab Spring? What a nightmare we face, at least three regimes down, and another possibly failing. What happens if their is only mob rule in the Arab world? How is that world peace, and wonderful all inclusive acceptance of Islam thing working out for you? Like the black flag? Remember what it symbolizes on the battlefield.
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Originally Posted by GrizzlyFan
Obama apologized to the animals that stormed our embassy. Said he was sorry for them being offended.
Here is more examples of the great Obummer's foreign policy:
USA and Israel in open feud...
White House declines Netanyahu request to meet with Obama...
'Schedule Full'...
Announces 'Letterman' Appearance...


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White House declines Netanyahu request to meet with Obama

The White House's response marks a new low in relations between Netanyahu and Obama, underscored by the fact that this is the first time Netanyahu will visit the U.S. as prime minister without meeting Obama; PM to meet with Clinton



I also heard about the Letterman appearance was higher priority than to meet with one of our closest allies.  Later this month the leader of the Muslim Brotherhood has been invited to have dinner with obama and his daughters. (Well I don't know if the daughters will be able to attend.)  This country has a lot of learning to do.  Keep your heads in the sand or up your passage of defecation idiots, read below

http://www.breitbart.com/Big-Peace/2012/07/30/Muslim-Brotherhood-in-America

The idiots I am speaking of are referenced in the article and a few others who may get their feelings hurt




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Originally Posted by mikec
I am shocked.

I really have no idea what sort of response is appropriate when an nagry mob storms an embassy and kills our ambassador.  However, it seems that statements like "I strongly condemn this action" aren't quite enough.

What should we do?


mike you have us in a pickle. 
Libs don't want to fund no more wars. 
We can't defend ourselves so we just make nice while they kill our citizens.  I would have liked to see this happen with Reagan in office,
there is no one to trust in government any longer. 
Our demise is on the horizon, laugh and snicker now. 
We are headed down a dangerous path with these crazed lunatics.

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This picture was taken yesterday featuring the destruction of the flag of the U.S. Embassy in Cairo.


Mohammed Abu Zaid, AP


We will now see where this administration's allegiance lies.  

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I wonder if the response to this, whatever it may or may not be, influences the election?

I also wonder if the American electorate, in general, are paying attention.

I just now saw the initial response from our Egyptian Ambassador - he should be recalled immediately.

And, snubbing Netanyahu is disgraceful, especially at this time of heightened tensions.

All of this, collectively, makes me wonder if Dinesh S'Souza is right about Obama's policies.

I may have missed it - did the President use the word terrorists in describing this attack?  Or there any other word to use?

I will say, Hillary was a hell of a lot more pissed off than Obama did.
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I wonder if the response to this, whatever it may or may not be, influences the election?  It's all about timing

I also wonder if the American electorate, in general, are paying attention. No

I just now saw the initial response from our Egyptian Ambassador - he should be recalled immediately.  Yeah

And, snubbing Netanyahu is disgraceful, especially at this time of heightened tensions. Yeah

All of this, collectively, makes me wonder if Dinesh S'Souza is right about Obama's policies.  Hell yes

I may have missed it - did the President use the word terrorists in describing this attack?  Or there any other word to use?  Haven't seen it yet

I will say, Hillary was a hell of a lot more pissed off than Obama did.  Haven't seen her that pissed off since they found Monica's dress


YEP! 

and I bet the Letterman appearance will be put on hold

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At a time when American's should stand together in support of our country,  Romney has chosen to use this tradegy and the death of one our diplomats to feather his own nest.


Does this really surprise anyone?  
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At a time when American's should stand together in support of our country,  Romney has chosen to use this tradegy and the death of one our diplomats to feather his own nest.


Does this really surprise anyone?  

When the president doesn't even stand in support of our country someone has to speak out against his detrimental acts.

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At a time when American's should stand together in support of our country,  Romney has chosen to use this tradegy and the death of one our diplomats to feather his own nest.


Does this really surprise anyone?  


POV, qualifies as a post.  If he didn't speak on the matter then some dumbazz on this forum would ask "Why isn't Romney talking?".  Never ending laughter on this board

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I'm curious, what would any of you have said in your statement if you were the President?  Exactly what would have been your statement to the world?



keepinitreal

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Ok, it took me a minute POV but I thought about what I would say if I was this president.

"Hello my fellow Americans, I have decided to forego my campaign trip to the Western United States this week.  My country needs me at the White House.  My job now is to lead this country and I have decided to call my staff and we will have an intelligence briefing this afternoon and I will speak to you tonight.  Thank you for your patience during this time of national concern.  I promise we will hunt down and kill those bastards responsible for this heinous act".

That is what I would have had him say.

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wonder when are we going to learn that in Africa and the Middle East democracy has no meaning and dictatorship is more convenient for peace.
eversince Egypt and Lybia's dictators have been elimated with our help, more killing and disturbance is happening in those countries.
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Maybe Obummer will make a statement during the Letterman show, since he chose to do that instead of meet with the Prime Minister of Israel about the middle east problems.
Oh yea, that is when he gets back from Vegas!

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I know one thing I would not have said; " If we have hurt your feeling, we are so sorry".More or less what WH said- Holy cow man, get some backbone

Watch the media turn it around to use against Romney in what every way they can, when they should be all over the BONEHEAD apology by the WH.

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Cowboy diplomacy is a term used by critics to describe the resolution of international conflicts through brash risk-taking,intimidation, military deployment, or a combination of such tactics. It is criticized as stemming from an overly-simple, dichotomous world view. Overtly provocative phraseology typically centralizes the message, such as George W. Bush's "You're either with us or you're with the terrorists."


........exactly what we don't need.  
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I'm curious, what would any of you have said in your statement if you were the President?  Exactly what would have been your statement to the world?

Clear to engage.
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http://seattletimes.com/html/edcetera/2019133266_mitt-romney-libya-embassy.html

http://www.salon.com/2012/09/12/mitt%E2%80%99s_shameful_libya_statement/

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/post-partisan/post/romney-is-no-statesman-on-libya-and-egypt/2012/09/12/97491466-fcd8-11e1-a31e-804fccb658f9_blog.html

http://www.dailykos.com/story/2012/09/12/1130697/-Mitt-Romney-s-statement-translated-I-m-nbsp-not-ready-to-be-president

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mikec

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DC - thanks for playing, but no thank you. Romney is right on this.
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Dietcoke

Really?

The Seattle Times, Salon.com, Washington Post & saving the best for last, The DailyKos.  These are the sources of proof you site that Governor Romney is wrong for making comments regarding Libya and Egypt?

Are you unaware of these organizations leanings or are you just playing games with us?

Contributing to the conversation is one thing but this junk isn't worth the time it took you to link it.  Try again!


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Obama and his admin continue the apology tour.  Obama is weak and the MB, Al Qaeda, and Iran are all emboldened by his weakness.  This was a deliberate act against the US on 9/11.  The movie talk is crap.  Obama once again shows his foreign policy of PCness is even worse than Carter.  Obama admin enabling extremisr Muslims to take over.  I really feel for Isreal and their people.  Obama feels about Isreal the way he does about the US.  We and Isreal are the problem, not the Islamist terrorists killing people.  

Naturally, the media is going to try to distract from Obamas weakness by trying to throw Romney under the bus.  Romneys response was very appropriate.  At least someone is trying to be a leader.

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The rest of the country ...to the republicans: STOP TALKING! Good lord!
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Susan - you are dead on this.  The murder of our Ambassador is a direct result of these pieces of garbage being emboldened by at best a milquetoast president and at worst, a president who is completely on their side.

Obama's response and position on this border on treason.  This is an act of war as they deliberately invaded our sovereign territory.

There's no politics in this at all.  In order to protect the lives of those bravely serving overseas and to keep this country safe, we need a president who believes that America is exceptional and is willing to defend our interests vigorously.  Obama is not the person for the job.
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Sorry Susan - meant to say that you are dead right on this.
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You may not like the sources, but the criticism is coming even from Republicans.  Steve Schmidt, Peggy Noonan, Condoleeza Rice, John McCain (silent), John Sununu, Tom Ridge, to name a few.

http://news.yahoo.com/blogs/ticket/romney-under-friendly-fire-response-libyan-embassy-attack-213729383--election.html

http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/2chambers/post/gop-leaders-less-critical-than-mitt-romney-in-response-to-libya-attack/2012/09/12/f7c0c2e0-fce1-11e1-8adc-499661afe377_blog.html

Wake up!!  Romney's foreign policy inexperience could get us in serious trouble.  And using this situation to criticize Obama for purely political gain?  You guys scare me, too.

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And sbmom, do some more research on Obama's "apology tour".  Your FNC rhetoric is getting boring.

http://www.latimes.com/news/politics/la-pn-romney-obama-libya-apology-20120912,0,2567522.story

http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2012/09/12/after-cairo-and-benghazi-attacks-conservatives-resurrect-obama-apology-tour-lie.html

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DC - what is your opinion on what happened to our Ambassador and what should be our response?
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DC your two links in post 28 are ridiculous.  Show me the links where Noonan, Rice, McCain or Sununu are quoted as criticizing Romney.  Show me the quotes.  Who cares about Steve Schmidt?  He's a nothing.  Your posts come from Yahoo News and the Washington Post - that says enough right there.

Consistent with this campaign, you look for any way to criticize Romney in order to not talk about Obama's failures.
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