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DJPort2008

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http://www.sfgate.com/bayarea/article/Court-Bay-Area-school-rightfully-banned-flag-5274857.php


Thoughts on this issue?
keepinitreal

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"If they were so concerned about violence, why didn't they cancel the celebration?" asked
Robert Muise, an attorney with the American Freedom Law Center in Michigan. He called school officials' claims of impending violence "utter nonsense" and said the ruling would abolish students' "constitutional right to freedom of speech."

I would hope they have canceled them [the celebrations] ongoing.  This decision was from a 2010 cinco de mayo and if it was my kids that couldn't wear a US flag on that day, I would hold them out of school.  utterly asinine

Mexicans need to look at September 15/16th for inspiration.  May 5th was a small battle in a small town

from wiki:
Also widely celebrated in the United States. US "celebration" of this Mexican historical event is largely a result of promotions in the US by liquor, beer, and bars/taverns/clubs/restaurants since the 1980s. For many years Cinco de Mayo celebrations in the US promoted Cinco de Mayo as Mexican Independence Day which is actually September 16. 

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cinco de mayo (5th of may) and st. patricks day are nothing more now than drinking holidays. There are those who reflect on the origins and history of both but majority of people see them as the day you get to go get drunkj and eat Mexican food or eat green eggs and ham and cabbage and corned beef. Kiss me I'm irish or viva la mexico.
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yes fhoenix but did you read the court case referenced above?

sounds like a waste of school resources but what's new?  Just tell them to get their asses in class and state NO flags shall be worn.  Kids should be there to learn not celebrate some beer holiday of another country

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The world has officially gone to hell in a hand basket.  Because Mexicans might get pissed off, other students can't wear the flag of the country they all live in?  The liberals have completely screwed up this country.
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The liberals have completely screwed up this country

AGREED

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Real - Right you are.  [rofl]  Bring back Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowicz, and Rummy Rumsfeld.  
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JG - liberalism has been on the march for the last 50 years and our country's decline has marched right along with it, save for 8 years under Reagan.  Have your little fun with the Bush administration but they kept us safe after 9/11.  More than I can say for Obama and Hillary.
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I want to go forward JG, not to the past, to the future.  We are a nation of quitters.  This presidency did nothing to improve our nation.  But of course we can always go back to the "blame bush era".  you are a funny man occasionally, we hadn't heard the "blame bush" in a good year.  

why do you villify Bush and Cheney joisey but NEVER comment on Obama and Biden?  wonder why that is joisey guy?  Nothing good to say so.......

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What the judge should have done is say we're going to uphold the 1st Amendment, we're going to put cops on the campus and anyone who touches someone with a flag t-shirt will be sent straight to homeland security for a thorough review of their right to be in this country.  If not, back you go.
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JG, our foreign policy is a joke within the international community. Hate him as you must, when Bush, and Cheney prosecuted a war, the likes of Iran, Libya, and Syria stepped back, and stayed out of the conflict, because they thought they might be next in line for military action. How much has changed since the Obama style foreign policy took over? Now we have absolutely no credibility on the international stage, and the very nations that tucked tail, and capitulated when Bush was in office, now taunt us, and openly defy us. What could possibly be the 180 total change in our enemies foreign, and military policies? Could it be that the Obama administration is inept in global affairs? Who was SOS when the downfall of former ally nations like Egypt fell  apart? Who capitulates to Syria? Who walks around a showdown with Iran over Nuclear weapons? Who broke the sanctions on Iran?
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Good post woody, puts that to bed
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JG, and you see nothing wrong with Mexican American and illegal alien students being allowed to celebrate a holiday from a foreign country while at the same time punish American kids because they want to show pride in their country.  Typical that you point out some distraction instead of this crucial Freedom of Speech issue.  Now if this was a liberal freedom of speech issue, for example about sexuality etc. then you'd be all up in arms. 
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JG, and you see nothing wrong with Mexican American and illegal alien students being allowed to celebrate a holiday from a foreign country while at the same time punish American kids because they want to show pride in their country.  Typical that you point out some distraction instead of this crucial Freedom of Speech issue.  Now if this was a liberal freedom of speech issue, for example about sexuality etc. then you'd be all up in arms. 



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Real - Right you are.  [rofl]  Bring back Dick Cheney, Paul Wolfowicz, and Rummy Rumsfeld.  


Always the first to intimidate and stir the pot.  I learned so much from dewy and joisey

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I heard that he was a raycist.  Is that true?

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