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jayrot

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Grand Canyon beats Utah 2-0.


My red rocks. You continue to break my heart.
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You may have singlehandedly just burst the bubble of untold numbers of SEC fans.


I don't necessarily think SEC fans at large are rooting for Ole Miss to be as good as they have been.  It was nice having them as a doormat. The SEC is hard enough as it is.   I got force-fed enough of Kaitlin Lee on TV last year to last me a lifetime.  Mike Smith isn't a "warm and fuzzy" feel-good story.  They had their 15 minutes last year.  It is time for them to sink back to the place where they were for the first 20 years of their existence. I would be willing to bet that the rest of the SEC outside of Oxford would agree.


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I got force-fed enough of Kaitlin Lee on TV last year to last me a lifetime.  


THIS!  Every bit of this!  She makes me want to watch endless hours of Moss pitching.

The only benefit of Ole Miss's wonderful year is that the rest of us in the SEC can use it to rag Ole Miss football fans that at least their softball team has won a conference title.
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Memphis faced 4 Ole Miss pitchers, Lee being one of them. Memphis hit a grand slam off of Lee. Things don't look real good in Oxford.


I think Lee took everybody by surprise last year and they didn't know what to do with her "stuff." I think she had some success at the end of the year that built her confidence a little. But, she wasn't dominate during the regular season last year. I think they were the 8 seed at the tournament. Everyone's got tons of video on her now, and they come up with a way to beat her. Their lack of offense takes them out of the game once the other team scores a few. The freshmen pitchers have looked good at times, but they aren't consistent. They may very well be the team that doesn't make the tournament if they don't fix something quick.
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Memphis faced 4 Ole Miss pitchers, Lee being one of them. Memphis hit a grand slam off of Lee. Things don't look real good in Oxford.


I think Lee took everybody by surprise last year and they didn't know what to do with her "stuff." I think she had some success at the end of the year that built her confidence a little. But, she wasn't dominate during the regular season last year. I think they were the 8 seed at the tournament. Everyone's got tons of video on her now, and they come up with a way to beat her. Their lack of offense takes them out of the game once the other team scores a few. The freshmen pitchers have looked good at times, but they aren't consistent. They may very well be the team that doesn't make the tournament if they don't fix something quick.

The loss of Mowatt is also a factor.  Pretty big hole to fill on that staff.
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 They may very well be the team that doesn't make the tournament if they don't fix something quick.



I wouldn't bet on Missouri making the tournament either.  They are 17-14 right now and have 7 non-conference games left.  5 of those should be wins, but they go to Wichita for 2, which could be tough.  Even if they go 6-1 out of conference, that leaves them 23-15...and they have 18 SEC games left.  They need to go 6-12 in league play to assure a +.500 finish.  I am not sure they can do that.

They have Georgia and Florida to play, and both of those look like sweeps on paper.  They go to Arkansas and South Carolina and host LSU and Auburn. Their RPI is 23, which helps...they just have to find 6-7 more SEC wins somewhere.
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LSUsoftballfan - how has the last 4 games went for LSU vs Ole Miss?

I recall Ole Miss sweeping LSU in Oxford last season and beat them again for the SEC tournament Championship. Ole Miss was a better team last season period.

LSU is in trouble next season as they will have the pitching to go along with their anemic offense. Beth better be traveling the country to looking for transfer pitchers and hitters. Next season will be Beth's first season without an All American in the circle.

The 2018 class will also be Smith's first class he recruited at the same time as the other SEC programs. I would guess that some of those recruits chose Ole Miss over other SEC schools. The travelball circuit is a small world.

Don't bet on Ole Miss being anyone's doormat anytime soon.

I would also agree that many teams have prepared better for Lee this season and that has hurt her productivity thus far in the season. Pitching and hitting need to improve at Ole Miss for them to win.

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I don't necessarily think SEC fans at large are rooting for Ole Miss to be as good as they have been.  It was nice having them as a doormat. The SEC is hard enough as it is.   I got force-fed enough of Kaitlin Lee on TV last year to last me a lifetime.  Mike Smith isn't a "warm and fuzzy" feel-good story.  They had their 15 minutes last year.  It is time for them to sink back to the place where they were for the first 20 years of their existence. I would be willing to bet that the rest of the SEC outside of Oxford would agree.




SEC fans are rooting for the SEC.

You know – SEC, SEC?
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LSUsoftballfan - how has the last 4 games went for LSU vs Ole Miss? I recall Ole Miss sweeping LSU in Oxford last season and beat them again for the SEC tournament Championship. Ole Miss was a better team last season period. LSU is in trouble next season as they will have the pitching to go along with their anemic offense. Beth better be traveling the country to looking for transfer pitchers and hitters. Next season will be Beth's first season without an All American in the circle. The 2018 class will also be Smith's first class he recruited at the same time as the other SEC programs. I would guess that some of those recruits chose Ole Miss over other SEC schools. The travelball circuit is a small world. Don't bet on Ole Miss being anyone's doormat anytime soon. I would also agree that many teams have prepared better for Lee this season and that has hurt her productivity thus far in the season. Pitching and hitting need to improve at Ole Miss for them to win.


The 0-4 vs. Ole Miss last year was a mirage, especially the 3 games in Oxford.  I will lean more toward the 50-11 record vs. Ole Miss prior to last year being a better gauge.  We will see in a few weeks when Ole Miss visits BR.  I think LSU will be plenty ready for the Rebels.  
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SEC fans are rooting for the SEC.

You know – SEC, SEC?


Well, I mean, it DOES just mean more [biggrin]
Softballfan15

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Let's hope is doesn't start raining during that series.

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Softballfan15


Who's alter are you?

So your betting Ole Miss beats LSU this year? 
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 Rumors out of Oxford is a couple players want out. 

Isn't there usually a really high transfer rate with Mike Smith?


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The attrition that is associated with Mike Smith is starting to take its toll.


Smith runs girls off either by cutting (yes I know there is supposed to be no cutting, but tell that to the player that is now a manager and to the player that transferred to Duke, just to name 2 and there are plenty more....) or by making them SO miserable they transfer out or just quit softball all together. Usually 2-4 after the Fall and another 2-4 after the Spring.  He tries to make if look better by magically erasing them from the roster so it is as if they were never there.

We all know Mowatt wanted to end up back at Arizona, but I hear the toxic environment in Oxford made the decision really easy for her!

I would not be surprised at all if they finish the season dead last in the SEC

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Perhaps the kids that transferred out simply could not compete in the SEC and chose to transfer to a conference where they could play. Would they be happier sitting the bench at OM or getting to play at their level?

In order to win in the SEC you have to have SEC caliber athletes. Smith inherited a team with little talent and had to put pieces together with kids that were not recruited early to get the team to where it is today.

It takes several years to put a team together. OM was ahead of schedule with last years season.

Arizona was the only job Mowatt would have taken Outside of Oxford.
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I am new. Been following these boards for some time.

I don't know who wins the LSU series this year. Both teams have issues.

I do plan to attend the series and probably sit in the outfield as I would go to jail having to deal with Sanchez's brother for 7 innings.
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Well, I mean, it DOES just mean more [biggrin]


Don't we all know it. [wink]
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Perhaps the kids that transferred out simply could not compete in the SEC and chose to transfer to a conference where they could play.


You obviously haven't done your research, then again you didsay you are "new here".  Why don't you look and see how much play time Lampton, Van Shrack, Majam and Lundermann had.  Then again you might not be able to research because most of the information on them has been erased.  They started almost every game when they were there.  All are SEC caliber players.  2 completely walked away from softball and the other 2 transferred to other schools rather than play at UM.


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Arizona was the only job Mowatt would have taken Outside of Oxford.


Oh sweet mother Mary, you are selling this BS?
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Perhaps the kids that transferred out simply could not compete in the SEC and chose to transfer to a conference where they could play.


Or perhaps they wanted to go someplace where their skills would be challenged to a greater degree.
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Perhaps the kids that transferred out simply could not compete in the SEC and chose to transfer to a conference where they could play. Would they be happier sitting the bench at OM or getting to play at their level? In order to win in the SEC you have to have SEC caliber athletes. Smith inherited a team with little talent and had to put pieces together with kids that were not recruited early to get the team to where it is today. It takes several years to put a team together. OM was ahead of schedule with last years season. Arizona was the only job Mowatt would have taken Outside of Oxford.



 Yea.... not true 
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Lampton, Van Schaik, and Lunderman were all MS kids. I hated to see Lunderman and Lampton leave the program as they were good players.

Van Schaik transferred to Southern Miss (Conference USA) a long way from the SEC competition.

It is hard to state that Ole Miss has been loosing for 20 years with elite players on the roster.

Looks like Majam played her freshman and sophomore year but as Smith added
new kids her playing time decreased. She logged only 6 hits her junior year.

as some girls grow up and move off to college the game of softball becomes less important to them. Playing at this level is a job and some kids would rather just be students.

Visit the Ole Miss SB page and look under archives all the information on the players you mentioned is there.
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Mowatt would not lie would she? I don't think she would.
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How could playing in a weaker conference challenge a player skills more ?
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How could playing in a weaker conference challenge a player skills more ?


Don't believe I suggested they should play in a weaker conference.
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Or perhaps they wanted to go someplace where their skills would be challenged to a greater degree.


Dude, Oklahoma and Baylor are basically the only teams in the Big 12 that matter. While powerful, that’s it. Get off of the SEC. #closetfan
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Dude, Oklahoma and Baylor are basically the only teams in the Big 12 that matter. While powerful, that’s it. Get off of the SEC. #closetfan


Whoa, big guy (or gal). I don't recall saying anything about the Big 12.

The two schools you mentioned in your post would, however, challenge players who decided to leave the SEC. The same is true for many other teams in various other conferences.
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Whoa, big guy (or gal). I don't recall saying anything about the Big 12.

The two schools you mentioned in your post would, however, challenge players who decided to leave the SEC. The same is true for many other teams in various other conferences.


Are you not an OU fan?
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Are you not an OU fan?


Yes, and a proud one, at that.

SEC fan? Not really.
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Mild upset: Tulsa beats #23 Oklahoma State 2-0. Hurricanes pitcher Emily Watson is a moose.
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Tulsa has had some really underrated teams over the last couple years, not a slouch for to play. 
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