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outofzone

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I'm hoping these 10 Commandments of Umpiring relate to T-Ball.

https://www.umpire.org/writers/porter.html
Oatmealsmoke

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Some of these make sense as far as providing confirmation for what an umpire has already seen. The one most frustrating is the last one. I abhor the idea of a differing strike zone at 3-0 and 0-2. Regardless of what an umpire’s zone might be, it should remain consistent throughout the game.
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I have always told my players... that a LOT of umpires enjoy calling people out on strikes.
Do not LET them call you out. 
With a two strike count - if the pitch is close enough that the umpire  MIGHT call you out...  you have to swing.
Put the ball in play... or spoil that pitch by fouling it off.
But don't get caught looking on a pitch that  MIGHT  be a called strike three.
Don't let the umpire call you out on strikes.
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#2 "Catchers must learn to catch & hold the glove for a momentary frame". 

Translation: I'm more concerned with presentation than where the ball crossed front of home plate.  

#10 "If a catcher moves his glove, it MUST be a ball..." "they're not fooling us".

Translation: See #2.

I'm sure the Author is a fine guy. My hope is I never see this bonehead in a real live ballgame or worse, see he's authored the Foreward to the newest Edition of NCAA Softball Rules. 




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I think the topic heading is misspelled- diarys is spelled either diaries or diarrhea- either one fits.
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Originally Posted by HenryLouisAaron
I have always told my players... that a LOT of umpires enjoy calling people out on strikes.
Do not LET them call you out. 
With a two strike count - if the pitch is close enough that the umpire  MIGHT call you out...  you have to swing.
Put the ball in play... or spoil that pitch by fouling it off.
But don't get caught looking on a pitch that  MIGHT  be a called strike three.
Don't let the umpire call you out on strikes.

 
So did any of your players get a K looking? Or just attribute it to a skewed PA?

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I've read some other stuff this Porter guy has posted. He is consistent, consistently idiotic.

This WCWS was, as usual, pretty much of a sh!t show on the whole, umpirewise. But I feel pretty safe in saying it isn't because any of the crew goes by this moron's ten commandments.
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There isn’t a single one of those “rules” that are even close to being right... or reasonable... or responsible... or anything else. Apparently he’s a baseball guy. Hopefully that means I’ll never have to step on a field with him. I wonder what other rules show up in his own personal rule book.
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I've read some other stuff this Porter guy has posted. He is consistent, consistently idiotic.

This WCWS was, as usual, pretty much of a sh!t show on the whole, umpirewise. But I feel pretty safe in saying it isn't because any of the crew goes by this moron's ten commandments.



Yep, there were a solid dozen "controversial" ([rolleyes]) calls that would have almost certainly been overturned with replay.    But noooooooo, the WCWS is too good for replay.....

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There's good advice in there on how a catcher can manipulate poor umpires.
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I have seen some tweets on Twitter being made by various coaches saying that they are against replay and prefer the "human element" aspect of the game in regards to umpires.  These tweets lead me to believe that none of these coaches have yet to experience a controversial call that went against them and which impacted a game of theirs.
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Question.
Do people feel sports are better today than they were before replay? In the big picture has it really made any game better or more entertaining?
There have always been missed calls and even with replay they still appear to get it wrong at times.
I am not a fan of replay in general but that’s just my opinion.

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I am a fan of replay but it has not been implemented in most sports as easily as we all probably assumed it would.  And it's raised more questions than it has answered.

Particularly in baseball, I don't think anyone thought through the idea of when is a ball caught and having to decide whether it's the split second the ball touches leather, or the glove closes, etc.  Another biggie is whether a baserunner comes off the bag for a split-second as a tag is applied.  Nowadays in MLB, the initial tag is almost secondary and the fielder just puts the tag on and holds it there hoping that the runner comes off the bag or can't transition between leg/hand continuously on the bag so they can call for a replay and get the out.  Blech.

I don't think anyone expected - or particularly wants - the kind of "gotcha!" crap that replay is used for in MLB.

That said, it would be nice if some of the more egregious or difficult calls were fixed.  I prefer a system where an umpire is watching all camera angles, sees an issue, and calls down to  stop play, review and decide whether to overrule the call on the field.  No coach challenges.  Just get calls right.
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I've heard that one of the big issues with replay is that a consensus couldn't be reached on how challenges would be handled (how many per team per game, when can umpires call for a replay, etc.)  This has been a couple of years back.

I would have no problem if the NCAA instituted replay where feasible.  Let's try to get the calls right.

I would like to see a larger crew on the field for the WCWS.  Why not use 4 or even 6?  6 would eliminate any rotations on the infield and reduce the chances of an umpire being late to a play.

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One thing I think would help the umpiring is to spend a lot less time practicing overly emphatic out, safe and strike calls.  It's pretty ridiculous.  Let the players be the game.

Use that time to get behind that plate as often as possible seeing as many pitches as possible to get a better feel for your own particular strike zone.  It's completely understandable that different umpires will have slightly different strike zones but, as individuals, they need to be much more consistent.

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bhblue

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I agree.  Way too much "majoring on the minors".  It's unbelievable what's deemed important within college umpiring.
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6 umpires on a Little League size field?  Don't folks already complain about that during the LLWS?


I don't see how the "men" have already agreed on how to use replay and the 'women' cannot......it seems to work pretty well on the baseball side of things.  To fix only the worst calls, each coach gets one, maybe 2 challenges (max) per game.  If it goes into extras, they get one additional.     End of story.

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The problem with the challenge system in any sport is that it is not designed to fix the problem, but simply create a second strategy call for coaches.  How many times have we seen multiple bad calls in the 1st 3 innings of a game?  The goal is to get all calls right, not have to guess at which ones are more egregious or happen at a critical point in the game, and then you use your challenges and you no longer can challenge anything later.

The point of that system isn't to make sure calls are right.  It's just to put a band-aid on the problem.  College football has the system about as right as it can be (now, execution is another thing...) - off-field ref is watching, buzzes down, and reviews anything close.  Coaches have 1 challenge as an emergency in case the ref upstairs fell asleep or missed an angle.
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A good place to start would be with the routine Safe/Out calls. There are too many runners called Safe @ 1st Base on throws...for not other reason I think the Ump likes to pause then, throw his fist down to really "Sell it". 

Same @ 2nd Base. Softball has never really had that issue of "in the n'hood' out calls like the MLB had for years. But still looks as if too many calls are considered automatic by field Umps. 

Another issue which would argue for an additional Line Ump is when the Plate Ump has to come out and make a Foul/Fair call on a ball which lands 175ft down the line. Saw quite a few which were called blatantly wrong. These 3 items make for easy Replay determinations.
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 - off-field ref is watching, buzzes down, and reviews anything close.  Coaches have 1 challenge as an emergency in case the ref upstairs fell asleep or missed an angle.


That would be my suggestion.
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#2 "Catchers must learn to catch & hold the glove for a momentary frame". 

Translation: I'm more concerned with presentation than where the ball crossed front of home plate.  

#10 "If a catcher moves his glove, it MUST be a ball..." "they're not fooling us".

Translation: See #2.

I'm sure the Author is a fine guy. My hope is I never see this bonehead in a real live ballgame or worse, see he's authored the Foreward to the newest Edition of NCAA Softball Rules. 




This was the assumption I operated under for my DD from 10U up
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This was the assumption I operated under for my DD from 10U up


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