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3leftturns

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There's a letter these players sent to this UL President to stop the scam..............I've noticed that when disgruntled people complain, they grandstand and stretch the facts........The support of at least twenty-nine current players who were willing to sign their name is quite a testament that the coup on Michael Lotief is a scam..........

Unlike this radio station, these players have no agenda other than to just tell the truth...........
This reverential "Michael" usage.... spare me.

I need to see more than salty language and aggressive demanding of excellence to account for a firing -- has to be something else there -- but I also believe what TideKid said.

He is a great hitting coach, but these hushed, honorific tones....LOL

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Some people I really do respect...........

Lefty, I'd call you by your name, but, then I'd be like Buffy.........Don't wanna be like Buffy.............
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I see there is confirmation of the abuse of grounds crew.


The guy probably sprayed Michael with the hose..........[smile]
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"I need to see more than salty language and aggressive demanding of excellence to account for a firing -- has to be something else there -- but I also believe what TideKid said."


The whole thing about Lotief being placed on leave in the first place was weird if it was just a passionate conversation about gender equity.  Perhaps power did go to his head, perhaps the new wave of kids are way too soft.

One thing I noticed is that in the letter to the athletic department, the players said they had no say in who coaches them, and I was like, uh, players should not have a say in who coaches them at the college level.  Players should not be part of ANY hiring process...ever!  It seems kids whose parents included them in every adult decision now extend that entitlement to college athletic hiring processes.
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One thing I noticed is that in the letter to the athletic department, the players said they had no say in who coaches them,..............


The players were talking about they had no input in the investigation of Michael..............They had no chance to defend him against the false charges, so that he may not have been fired............
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It appears at least one did
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I'd really hate to see what any athlete who says he or she was "bullied" by his or her coach would do under the weight of an ass hole drill instructor while serving in the military.


With all due respect to our military, and I do respect them tremendously. These athletes did not sign up for military type training.

Gonna pull my comment down until I read up more on an incident mentioned that I have not read yet

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Maybe but that's better than ending up like Stanford did after a similar firing situation.
If they were in the Pac... probably very similar future results
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According to raginpagin.com, not all of the players signed the letter of support of Mr. Lotief. 

At yesterday's press conference, were ALL of the players in attendance?

I know of one who didn't sign the letter nor was at the press conference. 
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The UL softball team is protesting administrators in the UL athletics department. They are also expressing their support for their coach Mike Lotief, who's been on leave since early October, after he says he raised Title IX concerns with the university.

29 of the women on the team released a statement in support of Lotief saying the athletic department is conducting an "unjust investigation" into him.



This has a number assigned to it...........
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"It's rarefied air. Tough to breathe it."

Something that has been indeed forgotten in these latter days of a trophy for just showing up and kids who are consulted for every adult decision their parents make. 
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Try it at work and tell me how that goes down with your supervisors. Tell a Title IX investigator how that doesn’t create a hostile environment. And tell me: do you consider that appropriate conduct?
LOL.... if HR was allowed on the fields or courts of a Top 25 football, softball or basketball team... well... there would be no more NCAA tournaments

But... as I intimated earlier.... it DOES appear, based on what Buffy has quoted, that maybe this deal is beyond even that.... maybe indeed closer to Bobby Knight territory.

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So the question should be.... why didn't ALL of the players sign the letter of support for Mr. Lotief?

Are there cracks in the cult?
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At yesterday's press conference, were ALL of the players in attendance

Here's a pic which shows some of 'em...........


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Help me out here, you’re being cryptic: 3) Did he “put his hands” on a player — poke her? (He says he did.)
My football coach grabbed me by the facemask to get my undivided attention. And he did. It was my fault.
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So, was a disgruntled player who didn't get on the field and so, ...?  It seem that a vast majority of players did support Coach Lotief.  So, the message then is that a college coach had better be careful knowing that any one upset player can take them down.  


From what you can gather here I am pretty sure it was not a bench sitter

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Another pic showing a few more players with Michael.........


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So the question should be.... why didn't ALL of the players sign the letter of support for Mr. Lotief?

Are there cracks in the cult?
I just wonder one thing... how much CAN he scream at a groundskeeper or a player, and at what volume, with his stoma?

I gotta say.... I could barely hear the man on TV interviews with a microphone
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"some of them" & " a few more of them" answers my question...

still missing a couple of players....
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Supposedly happened during the super at Auburn - not sure of the timeline on the surgery
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Here's a pic which shows some of 'em...........


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Incredible.... when 19 players in photos is just half of a softball roster
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TideKid, you got your feelings hurt a long time ago and you've attacked Michael on here at least several times that I remember..........

Another Alabama fan spouting-off is how I see you...........You're the second Alabama fan that's done this on this thread..........Imagine that...........


So, bluedog,

Are you saying what TideKid said happened didn't happen?
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Looks to me it is the same group of players in both pictures. I count 20 with both pictures.... do you have more?
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At the press conference, a reporter asked Lotief what he hoped for the program he has run since 2002. 

"My hopes are no different than what they were when I recruited these players," he said. "I love them. I want them to be successful. I want them to keep fighting for what is right. I want them to be agents of change. I know that they know what is going on right now is not right. They want the little girls to go sit in a corner. These are strong women. They aren't going to sit in a corner. They're going to make a difference in this world."

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Looks to me it is the same group of players in both pictures. I count 20 with both pictures.... do you have more?
I had 19
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So, bluedog,

Are you saying what TideKid said happened didn't happen?
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Come on Vol - you of all people should know blue does not answer questions

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Looks like some of your agents of change got the change that may have been needed if the accusations turn out to be true. 
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I had 19

That may be why I wasn't a math major!! lol

But still --- 19 or 20 off a roster of over 30??
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So, bluedog,

Are you saying what TideKid said happened didn't happen?


Nope...........
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Can someone post a link or perhaps summarize the "Mickey Shunick story" that was referenced?  I am having a hard time fathoming how that horrific murder is in any way relevant to Lotief's firing.     
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