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Midwest

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Just curious of the opinion out there.

Does Coach Glasco get the players to stay and commit to the program?

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TruDat

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Sure. It's not as easy as you think to pick up and leave. If the new coach paints a good picture, most will stay.
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Sure. It's not as easy as you think to pick up and leave. If the new coach paints a good picture, most will stay.


Until HE decides they should go.
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Probably. Heading into the 2nd semester they're all in a bad spot for transferring anyway. 
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they can move on if they choose, but I believe it was reported that the university would allow the players to contact other schools (non-conference or on 2018 schedule), however they would NOT grant immediate transfers...IMO, this is a pretty low class way for the administration to handle an already ugly situation....the NCAA transfer rules are biased against student-athlete, IMO....I would have much rather seen the university be the reasonable adults in the room, and allow those players that wanted to move on, be able to do so with out the restriction of losing a year....seems like sour grapes to me, or worse a vindictive shot at anyone who would support the person they fired. 
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It's not a low class move at all. It's a common sense one given how late it is. They are actually doing a favor for the players as well as themselves. The players may like the ex coach and all of that, but they also chose the school. They owe it to the school to finish out the year. I know the thinking is that the school screwed the players over by firing the coach, but he fired himself. Suppose he had quit, would you suggest that they let them go en masse?
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There is so much more to the story. One of the disgruntled players broke into a players locker and stole all the contents and a few of them laughed while this player found out it was broken into. We know who it is btw. If you haven’t read the documents it states that a player had tried to get players to change their statements and told them to burn Dr Leger down. I say let her and the others go. I don’t care how good of a player they may be. They are poisoning the well. And to think they have no idea what kind of coach Gerry Glasco is, he is a great coach and a class act.
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they can move on if they choose, but I believe it was reported that the university would allow the players to contact other schools (non-conference or on 2018 schedule), however they would NOT grant immediate transfers...IMO, this is a pretty low class way for the administration to handle an already ugly situation....the NCAA transfer rules are biased against student-athlete, IMO....I would have much rather seen the university be the reasonable adults in the room, and allow those players that wanted to move on, be able to do so with out the restriction of losing a year....seems like sour grapes to me, or worse a vindictive shot at anyone who would support the person they fired. 
Agreed... pretty petty crap
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They would win an appeal. Time frames would be an issue.
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It's not a low class move at all. It's a common sense one given how late it is. They are actually doing a favor for the players as well as themselves. The players may like the ex coach and all of that, but they also chose the school. They owe it to the school to finish out the year. I know the thinking is that the school screwed the players over by firing the coach, but he fired himself. Suppose he had quit, would you suggest that they let them go en masse?
Buffy

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Absolutely and the “coach” told them to leave in support of HIM. The University did these girls a favor
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I know the thinking is that the school screwed the players over by firing the coach, but he fired himself. Suppose he had quit, would you suggest that they let them go en masse?

Not as much that as the university, through the firing, admitting that a hostile environment existed for years.
That admission should give kids free rein to do what they want.
If 20 kids leave, and they only have a roster of 17, then so be it
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I agree, ULL should allow any young lady on the team who is uncomfortable about staying and playing should be granted an immediate unconditional release.
It would prove that ULL does have the kids best intrest at heart.
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Absolutely, any and all players should be allowed to opt out and transfer. But here's the ugly truth, with the exception of a couple of players, the rest are average college talent. And guess what, every D1 school is loaded with average players. No one is going to free up money for average. Sometimes life ain't fair, count your blessings kids. There's 10,000 kids who will take your place in a nano second.
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Does anyone on this board really think that coach G is going to keep the large roster that ULL has always had. I am willing to bet the answer is No Way. I thought it was a great plan to give that many kids the opportunity to play at the D1 level.
If they do not get releases he will cut that roster by at least a third .
That means 7 to 9 kids will have their dreams shattered.
Good luck to all the student athletes not so much to the university

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Does anyone on this board really think that coach G is going to keep the large roster that ULL has always had. I am willing to bet the answer is No Way. I thought it was a great plan to give that many kids the opportunity to play at the D1 level. If they do not get releases he will cut that roster by at least a third . That means 7 to 9 kids will have their dreams shattered. Good luck to all the student athletes not so much to the university


Just so I understand you correctly...After the debacle that just went down, hiring a new coach, trying to put a positive spin on things in moving forward...the brand new Coach Glasco will step in and win the hearts & minds of the Univ., AD, parents, students & current players by cutting 7-9 kids??

Ye, that probably be first thing on my To Do list.
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It's not a low class move at all. It's a common sense one given how late it is. They are actually doing a favor for the players as well as themselves. The players may like the ex coach and all of that, but they also chose the school. They owe it to the school to finish out the year. I know the thinking is that the school screwed the players over by firing the coach, but he fired himself. Suppose he had quit, would you suggest that they let them go en masse?


If I chose a school based on its top notch psychology program and the top 2 professors left the school halfway through my sophomore year, am I prevented from transferring to another school immediately because I "owe" it to the school to stay?  Hey, you chose the school, so we get to decide when and where you go!

This crap that students owe something to the school is so infuriating.  The relationship is very one-sided.  Do the right thing and let the kids leave if they want, with reasonable restrictions, rather than putting your program ahead of your students.
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The relationship is certainly not "one sided". If any of those kids went there to just play softball then they did a disservice to themselves. The opportunity to play on a good D1 team, travel well, attend a good University, make bonds and friends, receive scholarship money, all of this goes together. To drop and run because the coach got fired for a good darn reason is foolish. Maybe after the Spring semester, sure. But to allow them to go immediately does not make good sense and adds to an already uncomfortable atmosphere. 
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I would hope that who ever wants to stay can stay. Ones who don't, can opt out, whether they are going to play or not in both cases.

If the roster is still large, I would hope Coach G will let the roster downsize by attrition when each class graduates.
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The relationship is certainly not "one sided". If any of those kids went there to just play softball then they did a disservice to themselves. The opportunity to play on a good D1 team, travel well, attend a good University, make bonds and friends, receive scholarship money, all of this goes together. To drop and run because the coach got fired for a good darn reason is foolish. Maybe after the Spring semester, sure. But to allow them to go immediately does not make good sense and adds to an already uncomfortable atmosphere. 
The most time you spend in a major DI scholarship environment is with your sport training/practicing/playing.... and it ain't close.

That 'the school stands on its own' talking point doesn't hunt for me
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I would hope that who ever wants to stay can stay. Ones who don't, can opt out, whether they are going to play or not in both cases.

If the roster is still large, I would hope Coach G will let the roster downsize by attrition when each class graduates.


keep in mind that most of the roster was Louisiana kids with great grades who are not on scholarship but wanted to play for the university and understood up front (with some rare exceptions) that they wouldn't be playing their freshmen and sometime sophomore years. The new coach may/may not want to work that way, but the cost in the big scheme to the university is not what one might think to keep a 30+ roster size.
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Just takes away practice reps from the players you will count on
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Does not.............

But, your comment does show you know nothing about the practice-plan..............
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Does not.............

But, your comment does show you know nothing about the practice-plan..............


Really?? So you're saying the ULL practice plan, which you claim to know in detail, allocates equal time to every player on that roster?


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Does not.............

But, your comment does show you know nothing about the practice-plan..............



It does mean less reps if you are complying with NCAA practice time restrictions. Fixed practice time divided by more players equals less time per player, thus fewer reps WITH COACH PRESENT.

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Practice is limited to 20 hours per week much of the year, but it's per player, so conceivably a team could have half of the team be there for a practice and the other half come later (or whatever combination), but that's kind of tough to do unless coaches want to run two full practices per day, in addition to everything else that needs to get done.
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Practice is limited to 20 hours per week much of the year, but it's per player, so conceivably a team could have half of the team be there for a practice and the other half come later (or whatever combination), but that's kind of tough to do unless coaches want to run two full practices per day, in addition to everything else that needs to get done.

And that is exactly what ULL did from what I have been told by a former player.  Except Lotief broke it out into 3 practice groups that had 3 different groups come in on a daily basis to practice.  This former player told me that Mike carried such a big roster because many girls were just happy to be part of the team knowing that they would rarely ever get into a game.  It cost Lotief nothing because the vast majority of the girls were Louisiana girls who were not getting any grant-in-aide money but were attending school on the TOPS program which covered their school tuition.  Many of the girls were just happy to catch bull pen sessions or throw batting practice or be pinch runners in practice during situational hitting sessions. He rotated the reserve players in the practice with the starters so that they could all get a warm and fuzzy feeling practicing with the starters.  The former player told me that he only came to the practice session that the starters attended.  He was never at any of the other practice sessions which were handled by his assistants or by GA's.  Take this for what it is worth.  I am sure that someone will make a post that I was fed a load of bs by the former player who was a starter for 3 years.

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Outofzone said...........
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So you're saying the ULL practice plan, which you claim to know in detail,.............


As per the bold above - not a claim at all, yes I do know.............


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PBLC20 said.........
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Practice is limited to 20 hours per week much of the year, but it's per player, so conceivably a team could have half of the team be there for a practice and the other half come later (or whatever combination), but that's kind of tough to do unless coaches want to run two full practices per day, in addition to everything else that needs to get done.


Good post...........And, it's not tough to do...........




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LongBallGuru's post is pretty accurate...........

The groups were more than three-a-day, though...........And, most days the practice time was spent in a batting cage..........As a player, your practice-time could be different every day.............
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