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gatorbob

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Gators hammered by Japan pitching and Hitting!
https://floridagators.com/documents/2019/2/12//2_11_Japan.pdf
I had hoped for closer pitching battle. Back to the regular season tomorrow, Thew renovated KSP
Is a great venue!
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I’m glad Walton used all pitchers.
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I’m glad Walton used all pitchers.

Me too! Valuable experience for them all.
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If I had to rank the pitchers solely by their performance this game, it would go something like:

1-Barnhill (3 IP, 1 K, 4 H, 1 ER on a sac fly)

2-Hightower (1.2 IP, 1 ER)




3-Farley (1 IP, 1 HR, 2 ER)
4-Lugo (1.1 IP, 1 K, 4 ER); Japan teed off on us in the 7th like they did to USF Monday night. Kinda makes you wonder if they were just taking it easy on us and helping us feel good about ourselves. [biggrin][rolleyes]
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Hightower really impressed me tonight. Her movement reminds me of how excited I was for Ocasio's movement in her freshman year. 
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Despite only Lorenz and Matthews getting 1 hit apiece and Lindman's walk being our only other baserunner, I thought we had strong ABs and were putting the ball in play all up and down the lineup.

Japan's #2 pitcher, one of the best in the world, could have made us look a lot more foolish and we held our own. Around the 4th and 5th inning, it looked like we were starting to wear her down like we do all pitchers as the game goes on since the counts were getting even and full. Lots of strong ABs the 2nd time the Gators went through the lineup.

https://floridagators.com/news/2019/2/12/softball-home-sweet-home.aspx
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Despite only Lorenz and Matthews getting 1 hit apiece and Lindman's walk being our only other baserunner, I thought we had strong ABs and were putting the ball in play all up and down the lineup.

Japan's #2 pitcher, one of the best in the world, could have made us look a lot more foolish and we held our own. Around the 4th and 5th inning, it looked like we were starting to wear her down like we do all pitchers as the game goes on since the counts were getting even and full. Lots of strong ABs the 2nd time the Gators went through the lineup.

https://floridagators.com/news/2019/2/12/softball-home-sweet-home.aspx


There were many good at-bats. The very little that was left to chance didnt go our way. That is how World Championship softball works. We had two likely Olympians. This was where the Japanese program is now. When Lorenz and Barnhill join audience members Moultrie, Merritt, Munroe (i didnt see if Stewart was there) and the rest of the US Team for the Olympics, I Imagine a closer match. Still, my pregame hope for a 3-1 score was not to be. Onward!
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Hightower really impressed me tonight. Her movement reminds me of how excited I was for Ocasio's movement in her freshman year. 


I thought she looked like the best of the potential #2s as well.
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Despite only Lorenz and Matthews getting 1 hit apiece and Lindman's walk being our only other baserunner, I thought we had strong ABs and were putting the ball in play all up and down the lineup.

Japan's #2 pitcher, one of the best in the world, could have made us look a lot more foolish and we held our own. Around the 4th and 5th inning, it looked like we were starting to wear her down like we do all pitchers as the game goes on since the counts were getting even and full. Lots of strong ABs the 2nd time the Gators went through the lineup.

https://floridagators.com/news/2019/2/12/softball-home-sweet-home.aspx


SARCASM ALERT!!

I watched the game. Then I read your post. So I thought I'd have a little sarcastic fun with your opine. It was enthusiastic and no doubt written with the best positive intent.

No, Japan wasn't just taking it easy on Florida to make you guys feel better about yourselves. More likely, all their players have "Remember Hiroshima & Nagasaki" stitched in their sliding shorts. Two absolute beatdowns in 2 days...mission accomplished. 

I wouldn't classify a team batting average of .095 has holding your own. And full counts are not necessarily a reflection of strong AB either. I'm thinking more Deer in Headlights type thing. Their pitchers were just trying to see actually how far they could throw off the plate & get you guys to swing. And as far as wearing the pitcher down into the 4th & 5th inning...more likely you mistook fatigue for boredom. Considering you guys sent just 1 over the minimum to the plate I'd say their pitchers went without showers after the game. 

In reviewing Florida's time in the circle with the following strange but true statline:

Barnhill      3ERA
Hightower  7.5
Farley        18
Lugo          32.7     Team ERA Avg for the nite calculated out to a smooth 15.3.

Most likely Walton realized this game was going South and only pulled Barnhill to save face. Much easier to throw the Bullpen than it is to explain why the Team USA pitcher got throttled on her home field. As far as getting your #2-4 pitchers some 'experience'. That's tantamount to sending Cub Scouts into Omaha Beach for a "Live Fire" exercise.

On a positive note, at least the uniforms won't have to be washed right. 






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SARCASM ALERT!!

I watched the game. Then I read your post. So I thought I'd have a little sarcastic fun with your opine. It was enthusiastic and no doubt written with the best positive intent.

No, Japan wasn't just taking it easy on Florida to make you guys feel better about yourselves. More likely, all their players have "Remember Hiroshima & Nagasaki" stitched in their sliding shorts. Two absolute beatdowns in 2 days...mission accomplished. 

I wouldn't classify a team batting average of .095 has holding your own. And full counts are not necessarily a reflection of strong AB either. I'm thinking more Deer in Headlights type thing. Their pitchers were just trying to see actually how far they could throw off the plate & get you guys to swing. And as far as wearing the pitcher down into the 4th & 5th inning...more likely you mistook fatigue for boredom. Considering you guys sent just 1 over the minimum to the plate I'd say their pitchers went without showers after the game. 

In reviewing Florida's time in the circle with the following strange but true statline:

Barnhill      3ERA
Hightower  7.5
Farley        18
Lugo          32.7     Team ERA Avg for the nite calculated out to a smooth 15.3.

Most likely Walton realized this game was going South and only pulled Barnhill to save face. Much easier to throw the Bullpen than it is to explain why the Team USA pitcher got throttled on her home field. As far as getting your #2-4 pitchers some 'experience'. That's tantamount to sending Cub Scouts into Omaha Beach for a "Live Fire" exercise.

On a positive note, at least the uniforms won't have to be washed right. 


Well, to be fair I thought the ABs looked better as the game went on as well but, no, FL did not "hold their own" against Japan. I'm not sure anyone expected that. Japan is essentially a professional team, that in many cases has been together for years. I honestly thought FL might do a bit better against Fujita and Ozaki but I fully expected the Japan hitters to dominate the FL pitchers. I also expected Walton to get all of his pitchers some time, given this was an exhibition, which I think was a good, non-threatening way to get some of the players exposure to elite hitting. All that said, Japan thoroughly dominated.
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outofzone, 

I didn't think I had to preface that the #2 team in the world full of professionals dominated a team of young women, half of whose pitchers are under 20. But thanks for clarifying.

Tonight was about finding positives and gaining experience against the best. Competition can't go anywhere but down. 

Celebrating our new facility wasn't bad either. 

Thanks for your oh so clever insight. 

BYYYYEEEE
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outofzone, 

I didn't think I had to preface that the #2 team in the world full of professionals dominated a team of young women, half of whose pitchers are under 20. But thanks for clarifying.

Tonight was about finding positives and gaining experience against the best. Competition can't go anywhere but down. 

Celebrating our new facility wasn't bad either. 

Thanks for your oh so clever insight. 

BYYYYEEEE


You so sassy... Let’s get married.
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A few thoughts on a long weekend of softball:

PITCHING:
I was pleasantly surprised with the pitching staff as a whole.  I was prepared to grit my teeth after Barnhill.  I was a little surprised at the choices of starters for the games:

-  KB starting against ISU,
-  then KB starting against UM when the UA game was the more critical,.
-  bringing KB in to relieve Lugo in the NC St game when Lugo was doing just fine.
-  starting KB against USF, and then keeping her in after UF got the grand slam breathing room.

In spite of these starts, things worked out for UF.  (I guess Walton does know what he has.)  I thought Lugo looked very good - a solid #2 in my view.  The rest acquitted themselves well.  I am not surprised Chronister did not make an appearance.  But it's only week #1 in the season.  There's a long way to go.  Against Japan I thought UF played a respectable game until the 7th inning, although I thought Japan was in control the whole game.   (hats off to outofzone's creative, but worthless alternate facts-based ERA calculation)  

OFFENSE 
Against Japan, well I beg to differ from some of the previous posters.  UF's offense in the last 3 games was not impressive and was no threat to Japan's pitching tonite.  (outofzone was dead-on on his comments.)  And at the risk of drawing some ire, I thought Lorenz and Lindeman were particularly disappointing.  In tonite's game, in UF's defense, I suspect Japan will do that to every college team they play on this tour.
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Was hoping for a better showing from the Gators. That's just the way this unashamed Patriot rolls. That said, I just couldn't contain a chuckle when I read outofzone's "whoa, Nellie" post.
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outofzone, 
I didn't think I had to preface that the #2 team in the world full of professionals dominated a team of young women, half of whose pitchers are under 20. But thanks for clarifying.
Tonight was about finding positives and gaining experience against the best. Competition can't go anywhere but down. 
Celebrating our new facility wasn't bad either. 
Thanks for your oh so clever insight. 
BYYYYEEEE


Your are correct on all counts. I read your well written, very well intentioned post with no animous. Kinda reminded me of my Grandmother patting me on the head telling me it's alright while at the same time my Father is holding the Belt. 

In reading I couldn't resist poking a bit of fun...I've got kids and parents on the team I know and am a Florida fan.

Yes your new facility is pretty amazing. Clever, possible but jury still out.
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A few thoughts on a long weekend of softball:


In spite of these starts, things worked out for UF.  (I guess Walton does know what he has.)  I thought Lugo looked very good - a solid #2 in my view.  The rest acquitted themselves well.  I am not surprised Chronister did not make an appearance.  But it's only week #1 in the season.  There's a long way to go.  Against Japan I thought UF played a respectable game until the 7th inning, although I thought Japan was in control the whole game.   (hats off to outofzone's creative, but worthless alternate facts-based ERA calculation)  QUOTE

Apologies ufjaz. I fell victim to the 'ole multiply by 9 instead of 7 trick.

Ammended ERA statline:

Barnhill        2.33
Hightower    5.88
Farley          14
Lugo            28

New Team average:  12.55
Game ERA                  7.99

Worthless. Not so sure. More an alternate look into the future. I only say this because while only an exhibition, it has to be taken seriously and not written off as some 'one-off' anomaly. Because I can promise you Walton doesn't schedule a beatdown on purpose. Nobody got better last nite.

I do know where Walton could rent a used but flyable B-29 though
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Team Japan is a professional team. That's their job (most of them). To expect ANY college team to beat a National team unless it's Team Podunk is extremely unrealistic. Team Japan is a VERY good team. Want a competitive game? Pit them against Team USA again.
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Walton scheduled the game to give his girls a taste of what it's like to be on the other side of the coin. He also scheduled the game to give his team game experience against one of the best. Realistically, he did NOT expect to win the game. His goal was to try to be competitive. So much for that. LOL
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A few thoughts on a long weekend of softball:


In spite of these starts, things worked out for UF.  (I guess Walton does know what he has.)  I thought Lugo looked very good - a solid #2 in my view.  The rest acquitted themselves well.  I am not surprised Chronister did not make an appearance.  But it's only week #1 in the season.  There's a long way to go.  Against Japan I thought UF played a respectable game until the 7th inning, although I thought Japan was in control the whole game.   (hats off to outofzone's creative, but worthless alternate facts-based ERA calculation)  QUOTE

Apologies ufjaz. I fell victim to the 'ole multiply by 9 instead of 7 trick.

Ammended ERA statline:

Barnhill        2.33
Hightower    5.88
Farley          14
Lugo            28

New Team average:  12.55
Game ERA                  7.99

Worthless. Not so sure. More an alternate look into the future. I only say this because while only an exhibition, it has to be taken seriously and not written off as some 'one-off' anomaly. Because I can promise you Walton doesn't schedule a beatdown on purpose. Nobody got better last nite.

I do know where Walton could rent a used but flyable B-29 though


UF ERA so far against the type of teams they'll face all year..... 0.85
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Yea yea. And they'll be at OKC again at the end of the season. I dont have to be PC anymore. Ha. So let's ride.
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A few thoughts on a long weekend of softball:


In spite of these starts, things worked out for UF.  (I guess Walton does know what he has.)  I thought Lugo looked very good - a solid #2 in my view.  The rest acquitted themselves well.  I am not surprised Chronister did not make an appearance.  But it's only week #1 in the season.  There's a long way to go.  Against Japan I thought UF played a respectable game until the 7th inning, although I thought Japan was in control the whole game.   (hats off to outofzone's creative, but worthless alternate facts-based ERA calculation)  QUOTE

Apologies ufjaz. I fell victim to the 'ole multiply by 9 instead of 7 trick.

Ammended ERA statline:

Barnhill        2.33
Hightower    5.88
Farley          14
Lugo            28

New Team average:  12.55
Game ERA                  7.99

Worthless. Not so sure. More an alternate look into the future. I only say this because while only an exhibition, it has to be taken seriously and not written off as some 'one-off' anomaly. Because I can promise you Walton doesn't schedule a beatdown on purpose. Nobody got better last nite.

I do know where Walton could rent a used but flyable B-29 though


How can you say NL is a solid number 2? She did not look solid compared to the other pitchers, sorry.
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How can you say NL is a solid number 2? She did not look solid compared to the other pitchers, sorry.


That was posted by ufjaz. I do think Lugo is much better than her results against a mostly Pro team though. 
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How can you say NL is a solid number 2? She did not look solid compared to the other pitchers, sorry.
 

My statement was based on the 8.2 innings Lugo pitched in the USF Tournament over the weekend (which I think will be more indicative of what Lugo has to offer), not the 1.1 innings against Japan.
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<< I wouldn't classify a team batting average of .095 has holding your own. And full counts are not necessarily a reflection of strong AB either. I'm thinking more Deer in Headlights type thing. Their pitchers were just trying to see actually how far they could throw off the plate & get you guys to swing. And as far as wearing the pitcher down into the 4th & 5th inning...more likely you mistook fatigue for boredom. Considering you guys sent just 1 over the minimum to the plate I'd say their pitchers went without showers after the game. >> (outofzone)


Funny stuff, outofzone!    ; )
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Btw...   I thought I'd mention that Oklahoma played team Japan to a 3-3 tie last season.
And the Sooners had them beat 3-1... until two late inning subs made errors.

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Btw...   I thought I'd mention that Oklahoma played team Japan to a 3-3 tie last season.
And the Sooners had them beat 3-1... until two late inning subs made errors.



Henry, don't you know it's sacrilegious to be singing Oklahoma's praises on this board – especially on a thread where posters are lamenting the defeat of the SEC's flagship team. True, yes, but still sacrilegious.

No matter, I was still pulling for the Gators to beat the Japanese team. I firmly believe UF is capable of competing with that team.
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Btw...   I thought I'd mention that Oklahoma played team Japan to a 3-3 tie last season.
And the Sooners had them beat 3-1... until two late inning subs made errors.



No one cares.
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Btw...   I thought I'd mention that Oklahoma played team Japan to a 3-3 tie last season.
And the Sooners had them beat 3-1... until two late inning subs made errors.



I try not to live in the past. But that's just me. And, that goes for anything related to U.F. as well.
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I warned you, Henry. LOL
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