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And your parents paid how much for that degree? And yet you owe how much, and are sleeping on their couch? Should have picked up a tool pouch when you were in high school instead brain trust.
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They honor no one. They offend many.
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That's what I told that turd BAMATARD, most fun you can have with your clothes on.
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"In the biggest development — so far — on a surreal Sunday of protests around the NFL, the Steelers opted to remain in the locker room during the national anthem prior to their game against the Bears at Soldier Field.

All except for one Steeler, that is. Offensive tackle Alejandro Villanueva, a U.S. Army Ranger who won a Bronze Star during three tours in Afghanistan, stood by himself outside the Steelers locker room tunnel, hand over his heart."


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I want to order that guys jersey


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Originally Posted by uwApoligist

A true patriot.  People would be smart to emulate his lead. 





I'm so glad you support this guy.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/09/25/alejandro-villanueva-speaks-about-national-anthem/   (my emphasis below)


Alejandro Villanueva: I threw my teammates under the bus unintentionally

PITTSBURGH (KDKA) – Pittsburgh Steelers lineman Alejandro Villanueva says the national anthem ordeal has gotten out of control and he is taking the blame.

“Unfortunately, I threw my teammates under the bus, unintentionally,” Villanueva said in a press conference Monday.

He said the team had a meeting Saturday night before the game to discuss what they were going to do.

“Coach Tomlin gave us the guidance that we had to do it all as one, so 100 percent, in whatever it is that we had to do. There was a disagreement in what we were going to do and the only course of action was to go inside and remove ourselves from the situation,” Villanueva said.

“After the meeting, based on my unique circumstances and based on the fact that I’ve served in the Army and pretty much everything that is my life is related to the military, I asked Ben if there was a way to find inside where we were going to stay and if I could watch the national anthem from the tunnel, and he agreed. He said that the captains would be out there right behind me, and this plan morphed to accommodate this sort of tough, moral dilemma that I had in my hands,” Villanueva said.

“I asked one of the security guards when the national anthem was going to start, and he said 20 seconds, and so I just walked up and I stopped as soon as I saw the flag, as soon as I had a vantage point, that to me was enough,” he added. “There was a flag that was coming in from one of the previous celebrations, and when I turned around to sort of signal everyone else in so they wouldn’t leave me alone, that’s when they were essentially unable to exit.”

He says in that moment he was faced with the decision of walking back to join his teammates just before the national anthem or the team moving during the playing of the song.

“Essentially, what we can get out of this is that we butchered our plan to, sort of, have a response for the national anthem and respect everyone’s opinions,” Villanueva said.

During his press conference, the former Army Ranger says he is absolutely okay if teammates kneel or sit during the national anthem.

“People that are taking a knee are not saying anything negative about the military, they’re not saying anything negative about the flag, they’re just trying to protest the fact that there are some injustices in America,” Villanueva said.

He says some players who have been kneeling during anthems have even approached him before or after games and thanked him for his service, including other players in the AFC North.

“For anybody who thinks Coach Tomlin is not as patriotic as you can get in America, or any one of my teammates, or the owner, I take offense to that,” Villanueva said.

“I’ve made Coach Tomlin look bad, and that is my fault and my fault only,” he said. “I made my teammates look bad, and that is my fault, and my fault only. And I’ve made the Steelers also look bad, and that is my fault, and my fault only.”

When asked about if he thought President Trump should apologize for calling NFL players’ names or drawing the players into this, he said: “I don’t have anything to say about the commander-in-chief and his decisions. I’ve been following orders when I was in the military, and now, I’m not responsible enough to make a comment about the president. I stick to football. I respect if other players want to talk about the president and his decisions, but I have a lot on my plate, I have to play to a standard, I have to represent the Steelers organization, so I have nothing to comment about what the president says,” Villanueva said.

“I will support all my teammates, and all my teammates and all of my coaches have always supported me,” he said.

“Every single one of my teammates is extremely supportive and extremely patriotic in this locker room, and I can not only say that for this locker room, I can say that across the NFL,” Villanueva said.


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DietCoke

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What he (Gregg Popovich) said.

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/912473640725295105

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Shep Smith is the sanest thing on FNC -

https://twitter.com/twitter/statuses/912416051081748481

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Don't quote Jerry Jones much.....but to paraphrase
"saying NFL players are protesting the flag is like saying Rosa Parks was protesting public transportation". 

Nice, Mr. Jones.
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NFL players are protesting law enforcement and those who fought, and died, in an American uniform.............

The lie that they aren't is a lie that won't be overlooked for what it is.............
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Denver Broncos star pass rusher Von Miller knew very well that kneeling for the national anthem could cost him money. His teammate, linebacker Brandon Marshall, took a knee last season and lost endorsements.

The same thing happened to Miller on Monday. Phil Long Ford in Denver said it wouldn’t be continuing its sponsorship agreement with Miller, the Super Bowl 50 MVP who is enormously popular in Denver. A spokesman for Phil Long Ford told CBS in Denver that it wasn’t firing Miller, but it was in a contract renewal negotiation and Miller kneeling for the anthem caused them to cut that off.

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Don't quote Jerry Jones much.....but to paraphrase
"saying NFL players are protesting the flag is like saying Rosa Parks was protesting public transportation". 

Nice, Mr. Jones.

Jones clearly set the right example.  kneel before the anthem.  Stand for the anthem.  Great way to protest and honor the flag/military/vets.

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I'm so glad you support this guy.

http://pittsburgh.cbslocal.com/2017/09/25/alejandro-villanueva-speaks-about-national-anthem/   (my emphasis below)


Alejandro Villanueva: I threw my teammates under the bus unintentionally

PITTSBURGH (KDKA) – Pittsburgh Steelers lineman Alejandro Villanueva says the national anthem ordeal has gotten out of control and he is taking the blame.

“Unfortunately, I threw my teammates under the bus, unintentionally,” Villanueva said in a press conference Monday.

He said the team had a meeting Saturday night before the game to discuss what they were going to do.

“Coach Tomlin gave us the guidance that we had to do it all as one, so 100 percent, in whatever it is that we had to do. There was a disagreement in what we were going to do and the only course of action was to go inside and remove ourselves from the situation,” Villanueva said.

“After the meeting, based on my unique circumstances and based on the fact that I’ve served in the Army and pretty much everything that is my life is related to the military, I asked Ben if there was a way to find inside where we were going to stay and if I could watch the national anthem from the tunnel, and he agreed. He said that the captains would be out there right behind me, and this plan morphed to accommodate this sort of tough, moral dilemma that I had in my hands,” Villanueva said.

“I asked one of the security guards when the national anthem was going to start, and he said 20 seconds, and so I just walked up and I stopped as soon as I saw the flag, as soon as I had a vantage point, that to me was enough,” he added. “There was a flag that was coming in from one of the previous celebrations, and when I turned around to sort of signal everyone else in so they wouldn’t leave me alone, that’s when they were essentially unable to exit.”

He says in that moment he was faced with the decision of walking back to join his teammates just before the national anthem or the team moving during the playing of the song.

“Essentially, what we can get out of this is that we butchered our plan to, sort of, have a response for the national anthem and respect everyone’s opinions,” Villanueva said.

During his press conference, the former Army Ranger says he is absolutely okay if teammates kneel or sit during the national anthem.

“People that are taking a knee are not saying anything negative about the military, they’re not saying anything negative about the flag, they’re just trying to protest the fact that there are some injustices in America,” Villanueva said.

He says some players who have been kneeling during anthems have even approached him before or after games and thanked him for his service, including other players in the AFC North.

“For anybody who thinks Coach Tomlin is not as patriotic as you can get in America, or any one of my teammates, or the owner, I take offense to that,” Villanueva said.

“I’ve made Coach Tomlin look bad, and that is my fault and my fault only,” he said. “I made my teammates look bad, and that is my fault, and my fault only. And I’ve made the Steelers also look bad, and that is my fault, and my fault only.”

When asked about if he thought President Trump should apologize for calling NFL players’ names or drawing the players into this, he said: “I don’t have anything to say about the commander-in-chief and his decisions. I’ve been following orders when I was in the military, and now, I’m not responsible enough to make a comment about the president. I stick to football. I respect if other players want to talk about the president and his decisions, but I have a lot on my plate, I have to play to a standard, I have to represent the Steelers organization, so I have nothing to comment about what the president says,” Villanueva said.

“I will support all my teammates, and all my teammates and all of my coaches have always supported me,” he said.

“Every single one of my teammates is extremely supportive and extremely patriotic in this locker room, and I can not only say that for this locker room, I can say that across the NFL,” Villanueva said.


Thomlonson is a douche for forcing Villanueva to apologize 'for the sake of team unity'.   Liberals are lame.  Freedom of speech is ok, as long as it is their narrative.

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I'm so glad you support this guy.




Unlike you DC, I'll actually stand by what I say and back it up instead of running.

A previous article quoted a player saying whatever they decided to do, everyone pretty much knew it wouldn't pertain to Al.
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BTW: I would join the players in kneeling before the anthem is played, to show unity and support for blacks in this country getting a better shake. 

When do we get to actually work/talk about the real issues, real changes that might need to happen?  When does the showboating social justicing actually get it's hands dirty?  I am in for that. 

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No press and jersey sales for that 
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Remember this is how it all started.  Kapersuck with his piggy cop socks. 

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And this is how it all ended, not with him kneeling:

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Candidate Trump accurately said he could shoot somebody in the street and his supporters would still be there for him.  Now he asks supporters of these black athletes to gasp in horror at the protest actions they've decided to take.  It's both amusing and a big double standard.
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End of FY 2001, which was Pres Clinton last year, debt was $5.8T.
See next link.

End of FY 2009, which is last year applicable to Pres Bush, debt was $11.9T or more than doubled.
See here - https://www.treasurydirect.gov/govt/reports/pd/histdebt/histdebt_histo5.htm

Eight years under Obama deficits total about $7T.
See here - https://www.usgovernmentspending.com/federal_deficit

Understand debt goes up higher than total deficits.
Explained here - https://www.forbes.com/sites/stancollender/2014/11/04/there-is-no-budget-conspiracy-why-federal-debt-increases-by-more-than-the-deficit/



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Candidate Trump accurately said he could shoot somebody in the street and his supporters would still be there for him.  Now he asks supporters of these black athletes to gasp in horror at the protest actions they've decided to take.  It's both amusing and a big double standard.


I guess I missed it.  Could you point me to a quote where he specifically called out black athletes?
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BTW: I would join the players in kneeling before the anthem is played, to show unity and support for blacks in this country getting a better shake. 

When do we get to actually work/talk about the real issues, real changes that might need to happen?  When does the showboating social justicing actually get it's hands dirty?  I am in for that. 


Remember when he said "there's all these bodies laying in the streets, so I can't stand for the flag"?

I guess I missed that too - where all of the bodies again?  Maybe WiLL, bama, or DC can answer that for us. 

After we understand that, then we can get to the dialogue you reference.  Don't wanna trip on the way to the conference.
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I guess when he congratulated NASCAR. Lots of black sports fans there. Then they even slammed the door on him. Very unpopular stand he's taking here. Just because a few of the ultra-alt-right boys like you all scour the dark web, running stories that try to support your lying portrayal of the protestors intentions, don't think it's popular. The NFL will continue to make gross amounts of money. Most of us understand what's happening. And so do you.
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I guess when he congratulated NASCAR. Lots of black sports fans there. Then they even slammed the door on him. Very unpopular stand he's taking here. Just because a few of the ultra-alt-right boys like you all scour the dark web, running stories that try to support your lying portrayal of the protestors intentions, don't think it's popular. The NFL will continue to make gross amounts of money. Most of us understand what's happening. And so do you.

yes we understand 'whats happening' .  Loads of sjw showboating.  No one will care in a couple of weeks.   Let me know when there are real efforts to help inner city poor get job opportunities, education opportunities or reduce the burden on these folks that illegal immigration as become. 

I am even open to other changes outside of that, but they should be beyond broad swath bad mouthing police, and burning neighborhoods.  Not interested in those 2. 

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hehehe that's 10k poorly spent.
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Jones clearly set the right example.  kneel before the anthem.  Stand for the anthem.  Great way to protest and honor the flag/military/vets.


He's a hypocrite.  Think he can have it both ways.

None of these people even know what they're protesting.  "Racial Injustice" - give me bleeping break.

You know what's so funny?  All of these "he's not my POTUS" athletes.  What was it Obama told us when we complained about him?

Oh yeah - don't like it, win an election.  I am not fond of who won it, but it is funny to watch the all-knowing millionaires show their a$$es.
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To Jerry and the other owners first and foremost it is about money.  On that front, they are stuck between the players and the 62% of the fans that don't like the kneeling/sitting during the anthem.

I agree.  Does Jerry kneeling connect him in some reasonable fashion to that inner city poor black persons?  Answer, of course, is that it does not.  It also does nothing to help that inner city black person. 

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