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ForeverInBlue

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I think our founders understood there would be individuals who thought they had all the answers and may try to force them upon us.  I kind of like the best of nine component they included in our Constitution.  Keeps the supposedly "all knowing" at bay.


Oh dear.

It's hard to believe how eagerly you display your ignorance on this board.

Care to point out where the Constitution lays out a "best of nine component" for SCOTUS?

How about I save you the trouble of further embarrassing yourself to the readers?

Fact: the US Constitution does not set forth the number of Justices comprising the Supreme Court.

Feel free to play again. [rofl]
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By definition, Conservatives do far less forcing upon others than Liberals. Who is doing the forcing on some/many issues differs by point of view. For example, Libs are forcing their "all knowing" social agenda on the country and mischaracterize any resistance by the other side as forcing their way.

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FIB - We can't all be as sharp as you, can we?  It's best of nine these days but it has been as low as six and as high as ten in the past.  How about we call this superb idea of a SC the "final determination" component?  Fortunately, it does humble those all knowing types when necessary.
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Dewy's Google is working OT
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PDad - That's like saying society forced Rosa Parks on to the bus.  When we make you marry a gay person, then you're on to something.
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Dewy's Google is working OT


Hilarious!

But he can't find a legal rational for Obama sending troops to Syria, other than a "guess."

[rofl]
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By definition, Conservatives do far less forcing upon others than Liberals. Who is doing the forcing on some/many issues differs by point of view. For example, Libs are forcing their "all knowing" social agenda on the country and mischaracterize any resistance by the other side as forcing their way.



Exactly Pdad - look no further than North Carolina.  When it's the liberal agenda, then you have to let others have their opinions and be heard.  When you disagree with those opinions, you are a bigot, homophobe or whatever word they have created this week. 
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Cruz is an incredibly intelligent man who believes that we should be following the tenets of the Constitution.  He has been castigated because he's not afraid to stand up to his own party when they fail to follow their duty to protect and defend the Constitution.  Boehner, McConnell, McCain and the rest of those pantywaists should be ashamed of how they've treated him.  Of the five candidates left, Cruz is, by far, the most qualified.


Intelligent?  Yes, most certainly.  Most qualified?  Highly doubtful.  Deeply flawed?  Oh yeah.

His tax plan is crazy and it won't work.  He lied about losing his health insurance.  He lied about Ben Carson dropping out of the Presidential race.  He wants to carpet bomb ISIL (which military leaders have said is not reasonable and may violate the Geneva Convention).  He flip-flopped on immigration reform and now lies about it.  He's probably the most hated man in the Senate.  He took low-interest loans from Goldman Sachs that he failed to report.  He led the effort to shut down the government in 2013, costing taxpayers more than $2 billion.  He's lied about Obamacare and Obama's jobs record.  He's lied about Trump's and Rubio's stands on various issues.  He lied about NYC's "Muslim profiling operation".  Even Trey Gowdy has accused him of "outright lies" and "underhanded tactics" after a fake FB page (since removed) said Gowdy had switched his support from Rubio to Cruz.  He has been pretty much ineffective in the Senate.  He told Megyn Kelly "But as a freshman senator, I had more legislation pass the Senate than all but a handful of republicans."  And that number of bills?  ONE.  (For comparison - In his first two years in Congress, Rand Paul sponsored 176 amendments — and he has pushed a total of 292 amendments in his just-over-four-year Senate career, according to statistics kept by the Library of Congress. Sixty-nine of those amendments were acted on by the Senate, meaning they either came up for votes or were adopted by consent. Cruz, for his part, has sponsored 107 amendments — 103 of them in his first two years. But only 13 of those amendments were acted upon by the Senate.)  He took the Haley case to the Supreme Court, arguing to keep a man in prison for 16 years for stealing a calculator.  He is a claimed evangelical Christian, but he shows no compassion or mercy (and he doesn't tithe - or even come close).  You say he believes we should be following the tenets of the Constitution, but he believes the Constitution needs many amendments - balanced budget, term limits for Congress and SC justices, restoring power to state legislatures (mostly for LGBT issues).  You could also say he doesn't respect the First Amendment as he brings religion into everything (uh, separation of church and state?).  And does his Expatriate Terrorist Act violate the Fifth and Sixth Amendments?  He - and his father - are believers in Seven Mountains Dominionism and believe Christians must take dominion over seven aspects of culture: family, religion, education, media, entertainment, business and government before Jesus can return to earth.  (And his daddy says that Ted's election to the Senate is a sign that he is a Christian "king", who, along with other kings, will preside over an “end-time transfer of wealth” from the wicked to the righteous.)  And then there's the supposed sex scandal - never outrightly denied by Cruz - but as of yet there is no firm proof.  (But isn't it interesting that now the DC Madam's lawyer wants information contained in a restraining order released as he says the information could influence the outcome of the Presidential race?)


Deeply flawed?  I'd say so.  Downright scary, IMO.


Here's some background info if you need it -

http://www.slate.com/articles/news_and_politics/cover_story/2016/01/ted_cruz_may_be_the_most_gifted_liar_ever_to_run_for_president.html

http://www.thenation.com/article/ted-cruzs-trouble-truth-his-biggest-liability/

http://www.salon.com/2016/02/25/ted_cruz_is_a_lying_liar_the_labels_sticking_and_finally_sinking_his_campaign/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/monkey-cage/wp/2016/03/18/ted-cruz-wanted-to-carpet-bomb-the-islamic-state-does-he-understand-todays-military/

https://www.washingtonpost.com/national/religion/ted-cruzs-campaign-is-fueled-by-a-dominionist-vision-for-america-commentary/2016/02/04/86373158-cb6a-11e5-b9ab-26591104bb19_story.html

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Thanks for the background info DC.  Looking at the links (slate, salon, WAPOST), it's pretty clear that those are not going to be favorable to Cruz.

What people don't like about Cruz is that he has principles.  That is anathema in Washington.  That's why I like him.  Being the most hated man in the Senate should be a badge of honor.
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Of course they're not going to be favorable.  But are they wrong?  Why don't you address the points raised instead of attacking the messenger?  Seems to be the usual MO of the Republicans.

And I guess your definition of "principles" and mine just don't align.

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What principles? You will vote for Hillary, and she has no redeeming qualities.
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She voted for Obama twice, you can't trust a woman who does that
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Trump and Bobby Knight together at a rally in Indiana.......It's gonna be a great day!  

Maybe Knight will throw Cruz's chair.......[biggrin]
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Yeah, our nation's in great shape. All will be right with the country for sure. I'm so ready to make America great again
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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What principles? You will vote for Hillary, and she has no redeeming qualities.


This directed to me?  I have said many times that I do not support Hillary.  I'm still waiting for the responses to the Cruz "qualities".  Guess nobody can refute them. 

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I'm still waiting for the responses to the Cruz "qualities".  Guess nobody can refute them. 

This thread is supposed to be about Trump...
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Yeah, our nation's in great shape. All will be right with the country for sure. I'm so ready to make America great again


Your enthusiasm is suspect. But seriously, sometimes I feel like Bluedog may be more interested in Sticking It To The Man, (aka Burning Down The House), than he is in returning this country to its former greatness.

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If Donald Trump wins in November, millions of Americans will "you know what" a brick.  Unfortunately, he'll just use them to build a wall.
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Your enthusiasm is suspect. But seriously, sometimes I feel like Bluedog may be more interested in Sticking It To The Man, (aka Burning Down The House), than he is in returning this country to its former greatness.


laughing to keep from crying.  If I wanted to Bern down the house well...you know

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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.............sometimes I feel like Bluedog may be more interested in Sticking It To The Man, (aka Burning Down The House), than he is in returning this country to its former greatness.


Grayce, I worry you don't get it, like some others.......

The house must fall if America is to ever be great again!

Don't be like Pabar........He's still trying to figure out why Trump is winning........

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Your enthusiasm is suspect. But seriously, sometimes I feel like Bluedog may be more interested in Sticking It To The Man, (aka Burning Down The House), than he is in returning this country to its former greatness.


Nail, meet head.

Unfortunately he only knows how to to one (burn it down) and not the other (make it great).
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That's a start!
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Real, sticking with your Indiana prediction?
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Yep. Indiana in the bag for the constitutional conservative.
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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I still think Cruz will not be nominee however. I told you and PDad, long ago america isn't smart enough to elect Ted. Therefore I will not predict a hilLIARy v. Trump race. It will be a full blown circus w/ riots, fires, arrests, mexican flags, tortilla throwing; all of dewy's people will be out in full force
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
TylerDurden

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Trump is proud to have the support of convicted rapist Mike Tyson.

Except Trump doesn't think Tyson is a rapist evidentially.

Just when you think his numbers with women couldn't get any worse....
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Trump is gonna take Indiana big.........

The leprechean vote will turn out........

Gonna be a great night for Trump.........Bad night for Carrier Air Conditioning......    [smile]

Any woman worth her salt will vote for Trump!   

The rest of the women will vote for Hillary!
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The stop Trump movement is dead.....

The soon Trump movement is gaining  steam!
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Not surprising you wouldn't have a problem with a convicted rapist supporting your candidate, and then having your idol go on national TV and lie about it.

I will give Trump supporters this, they really have no moral center.
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Build a wall. Duh Tyler
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