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DietCoke

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What a lame a$$ response from our white supremacist President -


4h4 hours ago

I asked the White House what meant by "on many sides." The response, from a WH official -->


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And this is how he addresses those who were injured today -

1h1 hour ago
 
 

Condolences to the family of the young woman killed today, and best regards to all of those injured, in Charlottesville, Virginia. So sad!


BEST REGARDS??????  WTF???!!!???


But this is the real reason for his lukewarm Tweets -

 
 
 
 
 
 
 

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You wish that were true.  Trump's base is delusional.  And gullible.  And irrational.  (Polite way of saying "stupid".)  They have totally bought into the "fake news" mantra that Trump spouts so that they believe nothing except what he tells them


Intelligent discourse example?

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I love seeing dietwatereddown's panties twisted tightly
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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You wish that were true.  Trump's base is delusional.  And gullible.  And irrational.  (Polite way of saying "stupid".)  They have totally bought into the "fake news" mantra that Trump spouts so that they believe nothing except what he tells them.  His lies are numerous and obvious but his base hangs on his every word.  They live in a world of "alternative facts".  Some examples -

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/trump-jr-russian-meeting-poll-majority-supporters-dont-believe-it-happened-despite-son-admitting-it-a7847636.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/News/world/americas/jared-kushner-donald-trump-lied-base-stupid-voters-supporters-president-son-in-law-white-house-a7764791.html

http://www.independent.co.uk/news/world/americas/us-politics/stephen-fry-donald-trump-lies-belief-confidence-interview-a7737131.html

http://www.salon.com/2017/07/15/donald-trump-is-a-total-love-god-at-least-to-his-supporters-how-does-the-left-fight-that/

Try to stay on topic, which is whether Trump's base takes what he says literally. Only 1 of your links comes close to that, however it's based on his birtherism campaign circa 2011-12 that predates his presidential campaign. It's a given that Trump routinely says things that aren't true.

"Taking Trump Seriously, Not Literally" - https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/trump-makes-his-case-in-pittsburgh/501335/
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Try to stay on topic, which is whether Trump's base takes what he says literally. Only 1 of your links comes close to that, however it's based on his birtherism campaign circa 2011-12 that predates his presidential campaign. It's a given that Trump routinely says things that aren't true.

"Taking Trump Seriously, Not Literally" - https://www.theatlantic.com/politics/archive/2016/09/trump-makes-his-case-in-pittsburgh/501335/

Trumps Base laughs at those that take him literally, because they are failing to take him seriously.  

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Actually, the whole world laughs at the trump base. There are various standard responses, depending on whether he says something awful, something which completely defies everything he has said before, something happens which proves he has no idea and has never heard of the thing asked about, or whether he just loses his temper because he is a child. So depending, trumpies have various Go To responses.

-Trump supporters know to take him seriously no literally
-He was joking
-He was being sarcastic
-What he really meant was ...
-Come on silly, don't you know he always stars at the extreme and negotiates from there
-Well what about Obama. Or what about BLM. Or what about Hillay. Blah blah
-He is not going to do it the way others have, so get over it. 

In real life, Trump is a pathological liar, cares about nothing but himself, and is a man of unprecedented moral cowardice

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Trump's extreme loyal base will simply take up for him no matter what he does. But the entire rest of the nation, Dems, GOP, reasonable conservatives, liberals, media, you name it, sees his pathetic failure today to address violent terrorism. There was a terrorist act in our nation today and our president made some general reference to "many sides."  There are too many very substantive commentaries out tonight to count. 

Here are 3 of the best. 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-leaders-criticize-trumps-response-to-charlottesville-violence-1502590777?tesla=y&mod=e2tw

http://www.weeklystandard.com/hayes-why-wont-trump-denounce-white-supremacists/article/2009271#.WY_DjgTZX7o.twitter

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/us/trump-charlottesville-protest-nationalist-riot.html?referer=https://t.co/IjqoqLqLdB?amp=1


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Wow, even the Drudge Report has figured out Trump and his movement are frauds. 


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Fake news.  Current Drudge

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Trump's extreme loyal base will simply take up for him no matter what he does. But the entire rest of the nation, Dems, GOP, reasonable conservatives, liberals, media, you name it, sees his pathetic failure today to address violent terrorism. There was a terrorist act in our nation today and our president made some general reference to "many sides."  There are too many very substantive commentaries out tonight to count. 

Here are 3 of the best. 

https://www.wsj.com/articles/gop-leaders-criticize-trumps-response-to-charlottesville-violence-1502590777?tesla=y&mod=e2tw

http://www.weeklystandard.com/hayes-why-wont-trump-denounce-white-supremacists/article/2009271#.WY_DjgTZX7o.twitter

https://mobile.nytimes.com/2017/08/12/us/trump-charlottesville-protest-nationalist-riot.html?referer=https://t.co/IjqoqLqLdB?amp=1


Many sides have been to blame for the escalating violence.  This time white supremacists.  Last 6 months it has been largely antifa and violent left to blame.  Hard to ignore that, but you seem to be ok with ignoring your sides issues.  

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It's interesting to see these twitter warriors coming out now. Where were they with their snapshots of people during the BLM craziness?
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Actually, the whole world laughs at the trump base. There are various standard responses, depending on whether he says something awful, something which completely defies everything he has said before, something happens which proves he has no idea and has never heard of the thing asked about, or whether he just loses his temper because he is a child. So depending, trumpies have various Go To responses.

-Trump supporters know to take him seriously no literally
-He was joking
-He was being sarcastic
-What he really meant was ...
-Come on silly, don't you know he always stars at the extreme and negotiates from there
-Well what about Obama. Or what about BLM. Or what about Hillay. Blah blah
-He is not going to do it the way others have, so get over it. 

In real life, Trump is a pathological liar, cares about nothing but himself, and is a man of unprecedented moral cowardice

not True.  Trump cares deeply about America.  I felt Odummer did as well, juts odummer was misguided.

Trump wants to get an America back where your hardwork means something.  That you take of your family and get your kids educated.  Where capitalism works for the working American, by efficiently creating jobs that pay well.  Where government is not a roadblock on everything, but works with corporate America to build a great system. 

He has done very well on delivering on all of his key promises that are not held up by congress.  A feat that even the most ardent of Trump hater will have to admit.


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I was working on the kids' car, and mowing the lawn yesterday from sunrise to dark, and I missed the bulk of what happened.  Then, the Braves came on, followed by the series finale of TURN: Washington's Spies, which I had to watch.

So, I am still trying to catch up.  Lots to do today also - no time to camp if front of the TV.

Please explain this to me - help a fellow out.

Thanks.


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There was a terrorist act in our nation today

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not True.  Trump cares deeply about America.  I felt Odummer did as well, juts odummer was misguided.

Trump wants to get an America back where your hardwork means something.  That you take of your family and get your kids educated.  Where capitalism works for the working American, by efficiently creating jobs that pay well.  Where government is not a roadblock on everything, but works with corporate America to build a great system. 

He has done very well on delivering on all of his key promises that are not held up by congress.  A feat that even the most ardent of Trump hater will have to admit.


Not true.  Trump cares deeply about Trump.  Period.  Hard work means nothing to him.  If it did, why did he continually screw contractors out of their last 10% on most of his contracts?  Why did he screw Trump University "students" who were only trying to make a good living for themselves?  Why has he been sued over 3,500 times over the past 40 years?  Why doesn't he hire American workers at his resorts?  Why doesn't he make his products in the US?  Because Trump is out for Trump and anything that will line his own pockets.  Period.  SAD!!!

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Everything is SAD and then you die
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That's even sad - sometimes!
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Several stories this weekend that Bannon's job may be in serious jeopardy for being a leaker. Obviously he ain't about to go without a huge fight. Looks like the vile white nationalist wing (Bannon / Miller / Gorka LOL / Cernovich) are about to unleash a nasty, personal media attack against McMaster this week - claiming he is a drunk. Wow, Bannon saying someone is a drunk is like Rozanne Barr saying someone is horrible at singing the national anthem. 

I predict either Bannon or McMaster will be gone within days. Man, this administration is an out of control bunch of losers. It's a 100% reflection on the president. Here is the story about what's coming against McMaster this week. I'm sure state run media man Hannity is jerking off at the thought of helping out on this.  


https://www.axios.com/axios-sneak-peek-2472176208.html

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I'm sure state run media man Hannity is jerking off at the thought of helping out on this.  



bama's obsession with depraved sexual references is off putting. No wonder he's still tucking his daughter in at night. 

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He has an obsession with Roseanne also it seems. About double digits now in his references to Roseanne, it's his wife's doppelganger I think
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This guy nailed it - a year ago.  Too bad more voters didn't listen.

Trump Is Seeking a White Nationalist Awakening NOT the White House

By Peter Daou

Ignore just about every bit of analysis you’re hearing in the national media about Trump’s campaign — it’s based on a false assumption. Examining his words and actions through the prism of a traditional presidential campaign is a futile exercise. Trump isn’t campaigning for the White House, but for a white nationalist “awakening.” Under that rubric, everything he’s doing makes sense.


The New York Times paints Donald Trump as a lost and confused puppy:

Advisers who once hoped a Pygmalion-like transformation would refashion a crudely effective political showman into a plausible American president now increasingly concede that Mr. Trump may be beyond coaching. … In private, Mr. Trump’s mood is often sullen and erratic, his associates say. He veers from barking at members of his staff to grumbling about how he was better off following his own instincts during the primaries and suggesting he should not have heeded their calls for change. He broods about his souring relationship with the news media, calling Mr. Manafort several times a day to talk about specific stories. Occasionally, Mr. Trump blows off steam in bursts of boyish exuberance: At the end of a fund-raiser on Long Island last week, he playfully buzzed the crowd twice with his helicopter.

I don’t buy it.

Trump knows exactly what he’s doing — it’s just not what the media and pundits think it is:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

I love watching these poor, pathetic people (pundits) on television working so hard and so seriously to try and figure me out. They can't!

I don’t know if Trump got to this point by design or accident, whether he always planned to seize a moment in history or whether he realized he couldn’t defeat Hillary so he simply aimed higher than the presidency.

Like so many other political professionals, pundits, writers and reporters, I’ve grappled mightily with the cognitive dissonance of Trump’s candidacy.

Even a 10-year-old could understand (and implement) the simple idea of a general election pivot. That Trump has ratcheted up his dangerous rhetoric rather than dial it back has confounded the national commentariat and stumped GOP leaders.

And then it hit me: Trump’s strategy makes perfect sense. Not for a presidential candidate, but for someone seeking to lead an uprising — and perhaps a violent one.

It’s a classic example of Occam’s razor: the simplest explanation, the one with the fewest assumptions, is the correct one.

Ditch all the contortions of campaign logic, the psychobabble about “narcissism,” the myriad excuses about reality TV, entertainment, etc., and listen to Trump’s words. They speak painfully and dangerously clearly. And they are being met with precisely the desired effect:

The leader of Italy’s far-right Northern League party, Matteo Salvini, hailed US presidential hopeful Donald Trump as ‘heroic.’

KKK leader Thomas Robb:

“At least he’s saying things that many, many people in this country are identifying with and are saying, “Yeah, that needs to be done.” So it isn’t Donald Trump that you guys are concerned with. You’re not afraid of Donald Trump. You’re afraid of the masses of people, the millions of people supporting Donald Trump becoming awakened to what they feel to be a country that’s being taken away from them.”

Don Black, former Klan leader who runs the white supremacist website Stormfront.org:

“There’s an insurgency among our people that has been seething for decades that have felt intimidated and demoralized. The Trump candidacy has changed all that. Whatever he says, even if he gets the facts wrong, it still resonates with people.”

And there’s more:

Richard Spencer, a leading white nationalist who coined the term “alt-right” … came to national attention last year when he pronounced Donald Trump as the candidate for white Americans in an interview with The Washington Post’s David Weigel. Almost exactly a year later, he’s even happier with the presumptive GOP nominee. “I think with Trump, you shouldn’t look at his policies. His policies aren’t important. What’s most important about Trump is the emotion. He’s awakened a sense of ‘Us’ a sense of nationalism among white people. He’s done more to awaken that nationalism than anyone in my lifetime. I love the man.”

Trump’s unwillingness to carry out the basic requirements of a presidential campaign, his refusal to build a national infrastructure, his willful ignorance of issues, his inexplicable campaign schedule — these betray not stupidity, but intentionality. He doesn’t care. And he doesn’t care because he’s not after the presidency. It’s possible he never was.

He’s after something bigger, something to match his grand ambitions:

His plan is working, not to win the White House, but to change America — and the world — by triggering a white nationalist uprising and becoming a “heroic” figurehead in what his followers see as a defining war against inexorable demographic shifts.

Virtually all the punditry about Trump’s campaign assumes he is running to win the presidency. Seen through that lens, little he’s doing makes sense. And so we get Rube Goldberg excuses and explanations, none of which really add up to a coherent view of the 2016 race. When you’re operating under a false assumption, the result of your analysis will necessarily be wrong.

But there’s a simpler, scarier, more logical rationale for Trump’s behavior: That he’s a shrewd, politically talented and ambitious man who seeks to lead a historic uprising, a white nationalist “awakening” that will transform America and the world.

Otherwise how do you explain this:

His Alex Jones-style conspiracy-mongering; his meticulously crafted words of incitement and exhortations to violence; his attacks on a federal judge; his description of President Obama as a terrorist (the “founder of ISIS”); his birtherism; his eliminationist language toward Hillary Clinton; his fierce misogyny and indifference to sexual harassment; his feud with the Khan family; his Muslim ban; his use of anti-Semitic symbols; his embrace of torture; his capriciousness about the proliferation and use of nuclear weapons; his praise for dictators; his flirtations with Putin and Russian hackers; his undiluted xenophobia; his racist dog whistles (“look at my African-American”); his infamous border wall and relentless anti-Mexican bigotry; his claims of a “rigged” election; his unconcealed calls for voter intimidation; his refusal to disavow ties to white supremacists.

We can’t attribute all that to happenstance, accident, entertainment, foolishness, ignorance or inexperience. If we do, we will end up regretting it.

Trump has a purpose — it’s just not the one the “experts” think it is. And it could prove to be much more dangerous. Which means we have to work even harder to defeat and delegitimize him in November.


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This guy nailed it - a year ago.  Too bad more voters didn't listen.

Trump Is Seeking a White Nationalist Awakening NOT the White House

By Peter Daou

Ignore just about every bit of analysis you’re hearing in the national media about Trump’s campaign — it’s based on a false assumption. Examining his words and actions through the prism of a traditional presidential campaign is a futile exercise. Trump isn’t campaigning for the White House, but for a white nationalist “awakening.” Under that rubric, everything he’s doing makes sense.


The New York Times paints Donald Trump as a lost and confused puppy:

Advisers who once hoped a Pygmalion-like transformation would refashion a crudely effective political showman into a plausible American president now increasingly concede that Mr. Trump may be beyond coaching. … In private, Mr. Trump’s mood is often sullen and erratic, his associates say. He veers from barking at members of his staff to grumbling about how he was better off following his own instincts during the primaries and suggesting he should not have heeded their calls for change. He broods about his souring relationship with the news media, calling Mr. Manafort several times a day to talk about specific stories. Occasionally, Mr. Trump blows off steam in bursts of boyish exuberance: At the end of a fund-raiser on Long Island last week, he playfully buzzed the crowd twice with his helicopter.

I don’t buy it.

Trump knows exactly what he’s doing — it’s just not what the media and pundits think it is:

Donald J. Trump @realDonaldTrump

I love watching these poor, pathetic people (pundits) on television working so hard and so seriously to try and figure me out. They can't!

I don’t know if Trump got to this point by design or accident, whether he always planned to seize a moment in history or whether he realized he couldn’t defeat Hillary so he simply aimed higher than the presidency.

Like so many other political professionals, pundits, writers and reporters, I’ve grappled mightily with the cognitive dissonance of Trump’s candidacy.

Even a 10-year-old could understand (and implement) the simple idea of a general election pivot. That Trump has ratcheted up his dangerous rhetoric rather than dial it back has confounded the national commentariat and stumped GOP leaders.

And then it hit me: Trump’s strategy makes perfect sense. Not for a presidential candidate, but for someone seeking to lead an uprising — and perhaps a violent one.

It’s a classic example of Occam’s razor: the simplest explanation, the one with the fewest assumptions, is the correct one.

Ditch all the contortions of campaign logic, the psychobabble about “narcissism,” the myriad excuses about reality TV, entertainment, etc., and listen to Trump’s words. They speak painfully and dangerously clearly. And they are being met with precisely the desired effect:

The leader of Italy’s far-right Northern League party, Matteo Salvini, hailed US presidential hopeful Donald Trump as ‘heroic.’

KKK leader Thomas Robb:

“At least he’s saying things that many, many people in this country are identifying with and are saying, “Yeah, that needs to be done.” So it isn’t Donald Trump that you guys are concerned with. You’re not afraid of Donald Trump. You’re afraid of the masses of people, the millions of people supporting Donald Trump becoming awakened to what they feel to be a country that’s being taken away from them.”

Don Black, former Klan leader who runs the white supremacist website Stormfront.org:

“There’s an insurgency among our people that has been seething for decades that have felt intimidated and demoralized. The Trump candidacy has changed all that. Whatever he says, even if he gets the facts wrong, it still resonates with people.”

And there’s more:

Richard Spencer, a leading white nationalist who coined the term “alt-right” … came to national attention last year when he pronounced Donald Trump as the candidate for white Americans in an interview with The Washington Post’s David Weigel. Almost exactly a year later, he’s even happier with the presumptive GOP nominee. “I think with Trump, you shouldn’t look at his policies. His policies aren’t important. What’s most important about Trump is the emotion. He’s awakened a sense of ‘Us’ a sense of nationalism among white people. He’s done more to awaken that nationalism than anyone in my lifetime. I love the man.”

Trump’s unwillingness to carry out the basic requirements of a presidential campaign, his refusal to build a national infrastructure, his willful ignorance of issues, his inexplicable campaign schedule — these betray not stupidity, but intentionality. He doesn’t care. And he doesn’t care because he’s not after the presidency. It’s possible he never was.

He’s after something bigger, something to match his grand ambitions:

His plan is working, not to win the White House, but to change America — and the world — by triggering a white nationalist uprising and becoming a “heroic” figurehead in what his followers see as a defining war against inexorable demographic shifts.

Virtually all the punditry about Trump’s campaign assumes he is running to win the presidency. Seen through that lens, little he’s doing makes sense. And so we get Rube Goldberg excuses and explanations, none of which really add up to a coherent view of the 2016 race. When you’re operating under a false assumption, the result of your analysis will necessarily be wrong.

But there’s a simpler, scarier, more logical rationale for Trump’s behavior: That he’s a shrewd, politically talented and ambitious man who seeks to lead a historic uprising, a white nationalist “awakening” that will transform America and the world.

Otherwise how do you explain this:

His Alex Jones-style conspiracy-mongering; his meticulously crafted words of incitement and exhortations to violence; his attacks on a federal judge; his description of President Obama as a terrorist (the “founder of ISIS”); his birtherism; his eliminationist language toward Hillary Clinton; his fierce misogyny and indifference to sexual harassment; his feud with the Khan family; his Muslim ban; his use of anti-Semitic symbols; his embrace of torture; his capriciousness about the proliferation and use of nuclear weapons; his praise for dictators; his flirtations with Putin and Russian hackers; his undiluted xenophobia; his racist dog whistles (“look at my African-American”); his infamous border wall and relentless anti-Mexican bigotry; his claims of a “rigged” election; his unconcealed calls for voter intimidation; his refusal to disavow ties to white supremacists.

We can’t attribute all that to happenstance, accident, entertainment, foolishness, ignorance or inexperience. If we do, we will end up regretting it.

Trump has a purpose — it’s just not the one the “experts” think it is. And it could prove to be much more dangerous. Which means we have to work even harder to defeat and delegitimize him in November.




Indeed. All it took was the ability to see and hear to know that. He hired a known extreme white nationalist and head of breitbart Steve Bannon to be his Campaign CEO, his GOP convention acceptance speech and "closing argument" ad were chocked full of well known themes and dog whistles employed by racists and anti-Semitic forces in the 1930's. And the most glaring evidence was just to look and listen to the crowd of folks who attended his rallies.

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Indeed. All it took was the ability to see and hear to know that. He hired a known extreme white nationalist and head of breitbart Steve Bannon to be his Campaign CEO, his GOP convention acceptance speech and "closing argument" ad were chocked full of well known themes and dog whistles employed by racists and anti-Semitic forces in the 1930's. And the most glaring evidence was just to look and listen to the crowd of folks who attended his rallies.

Bannon is a nationalist, actually an economic nationalists.  He believes first and foremost the US economy should favor US citizens.  Not really just a radical idea. Not a 'white' anything.  

Exasperated leftists, like mother jones, seem to always want to lump alt-right with white supremacists.  That is why they are always confused.  That would be the equivalent of saying antifa defines the left.

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You seem to do the same on immigration.  You can be completely against illegal immigration, and still be pro immigration.   It is all not really as hard to decipher as you are making it.
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Bannon is a nationalist, actually an economic nationalists.  He believes first and foremost the US economy should favor US citizens.  Not really just a radical idea. Not a 'white' anything.  

Exasperated leftists, like mother jones, seem to always want to lump alt-right with white supremacists.  That is why they are always confused.  That would be the equivalent of saying antifa defines the left.


Who's antiFa?

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Indeed. All it took was the ability to see and hear to know that. He hired a known extreme white nationalist and head of breitbart Steve Bannon to be his Campaign CEO, his GOP convention acceptance speech and "closing argument" ad were chocked full of well known themes and dog whistles employed by racists and anti-Semitic forces in the 1930's. And the most glaring evidence was just to look and listen to the crowd of folks who attended his rallies.


Don't act like President Obama didn't play the race card when it benefited him, including having the criminal Al Sharpton to the White House 80-85 times.  I guess it didn't matter then.
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This morning the CEO of Merck announced his resignation from Trump's Manufacturing Counsel. It took Trump all of 2 hours to send out one of his typical, childish tweets attacking the Merck CEO, saying "now he will have more time to LOWER DRUG PRICES"


He steadfastly refused to call terrorism by white supremacists and new-Nazis by their name the way he demanded that radical Islamic terrorists be spoken. Let that soak in, we have a president who immediately trashes Americans but will not call out white supremacists. We have a president who delights in attacking Merck CEO, McConnell, Sessions, Comey, Cruz, Rubio, Gold Star parents, McCain, CNN, Dems, leaders of our ALLIES, really any living person that dares to criticize him, except ...

Putin and white supremacists.  Weakest president ever

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Delete your account, produce documents or apologize to KIR
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Don't act like President Obama didn't play the race card when it benefited him, including having the criminal Al Sharpton to the White House 80-85 times.  I guess it didn't matter then.



There is not equivalence. These people despise blacks and Jews and have destroying them as their reason for existence. You pretending there is equivalence is laughable.  But of course it's all you got. Trump supporters got what about Obama? what about Hillary? what about blah blah. 

Trump is the president. The current president is the one that gets scrutinized. Always. WhatAboutIsm is way played out. 

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Delete your account, produce documents or apologize to KIR



Laughing at you. Tell him to apologize to all decent living humans. 

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