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KIR is a triple-threat - he can watch the game, sleuth twerpalum and drink whiskey at the same time.
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Thank you Pdad, but yes I can.

The US won because we're making America Great Again

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The US won because we're making America Great Again


#MAGA moves in mysterious ways.

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Who pissed in your cheerios. Just a joke. Whatever I'll step off.

Not sure why you were messin with GLP in the first place.  But sure now that you are steppin off, it's all cool. 

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Mind your business
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YAY!!is GAF
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https://www.google.com/search?kgmid=/g/11c1ww_61l&hl=en-US&kgs=29c152104318376c&q=hank+williams+jr.+mind+your+own+business&shndl=0&source=sh/x/kp&entrypoint=sh/x/kp
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"President Donald Trump is donating the $78,333.32 salary he has earned so far to the National Park Service.

"It's straight up. Every penny that the president received from the first quarter," Press Secretary Sean Spicer told journalists at a White House press briefing Monday.

Spicer handed a check to Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke and Tyrone Brandyburg, the superintendent of Harper's Ferry historical site.

"The president is personally proud to contribute the first quarter of his salary to the important mission of the Park Service, which is preserving our country's national security," Spicer said.

The stated mission of the National Park Service, according to its website, is to "[preserve] unimpaired the natural and cultural resources and values of the National Park System for the enjoyment, education, and inspiration of this and future generations."


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Saw that on Twitter,that's a great gesture
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"President Donald Trump is donating the $78,333.32 salary he has earned so far to the National Park Service.

"It's straight up. Every penny that the president received from the first quarter," Press Secretary Sean Spicer told journalists at a White House press briefing Monday.

Spicer handed a check to Interior Secretary Ryan Zinke and Tyrone Brandyburg, the superintendent of Harper's Ferry historical site.

"The president is personally proud to contribute the first quarter of his salary to the important mission of the Park Service, which is preserving our country's national security," Spicer said.

The stated mission of the National Park Service, according to its website, is to "[preserve] unimpaired the natural and cultural resources and values of the National Park System for the enjoyment, education, and inspiration of this and future generations."


CNN "President stiff park services!"

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Bannon steps down from NSC. He will continue to roam the WH.


"Susan Rice operationalized the NSC during the last administration. I was put on to ensure that it was de-operationalized,” Bannon said."

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Bannon steps down from NSC. He will continue to roam the WH.


"Susan Rice operationalized the NSC during the last administration. I was put on to ensure that it was de-operationalized,” Bannon said."


Progress, how can the progressives complain?

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"President Donald Trump signed a bill to extend the Veterans Choice Program at the Oval Office on Wednesday, inviting influential veterans groups to join him.

“The veterans have poured out their sweat and blood and tears for this country for so long, and it’s time that they’re recognized, and it’s time that we now take care of them, and take care of them properly,” Trump said. 

 The bill allows veterans to seek private care outside of the VA system, if they live more than 40 miles away from a VA hospital or can’t get an appointment within 30 days. Trump specifically thanked Senator John McCain and Senator Johnny Isakson for their work on the bill, as well as Rep. Phil Roe, the Chairman of the House Committee on Veterans Affairs.

Some people have to travel five hours, eight hours, and they’ll have to do it on a weekly basis, and even worse than that,” Trump said. “It’s not going to happen anymore.”

Trump was joined by Secretary of Veterans Affairs David Shulkin, who praised the bill.

“This is a good day for veterans,” he said. “This is a great day to celebrate not only what veterans have contributed to the country, but how we’re making things better for them.”


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"President Donald Trump signed a bill to extend the Veterans Choice Program at the Oval Office on Wednesday, inviting influential veterans groups to join him.


So you approve, EG?  Did you congratulate BO when he originally signed this law in 2014 in response to the VA scandal?  What DT signed today is just an extension of BO's law, with a few changes, and it only extends the law until January.  Did you thank the Democrats, since it was a Dem who authored the extension bill? 

Did you thank John and Bernie for the original bill?  Did you call out Jeff Sessions for opposing it?  Or Corker?  Or Johnson?  From Wiki -

Senators John McCain (R-AZ) and Bernie Sanders (I-VT) were the two main senators who negotiated the bill. McCain said "is this a final solution to these problems? No, but it is a beginning." McCain also called the situation an "emergency" and said "if it's not an emergency that we've neglected these brave men and women who have protected our country, then I don't know what is."  Only three senators voted against the bill, Jeff Sessions (R-AL), Bob Corker (R-TN), and Ron Johnson (R-WI)


And there are other opinions about this (very expensive) program -

Trump Extends Troubled VA Program That Pays Private Doctors

It's a fix that hasn't fixed much, but the troubled Veterans Choice program has been extended anyway.

On Wednesday, President Donald Trump signed a bill extending the program intended to speed veterans' access to health care beyond its original August end point.

Veterans Choice is a $10 billion response to the 2014 scandal in which Veterans Affairs health facilities altered records to hide months-long waits for care in Phoenix and elsewhere. The Choice program pays for private-sector health care for veterans and was set to expire in August, but the VA and some of the program's harshest critics in Congress have agreed to extend it, with a few changes, until January. They said that will give the VA time to propose a more comprehensive package of reforms — fixes for the fix.

Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., authored the extension bill, which won bipartisan support in the House and Senate.

Veterans Choice is designed to allow veterans who have waited more than 30 days for an appointment at a VA facility, or who live more than 40 miles from one, instead to get care from private providers who then bill the VA. But it has been plagued with problems. Many vets complain that Choice actually makes getting care more difficult and time-consuming, and some health care providers have dropped out due to slow payments or administrative hassles.

The bigger reforms the VA wants to make following this extension bill will be aimed at fixing more than a half-dozen other systems the VA has for purchasing care from the private sector.

"The idea of having seven, eight ways of doing the same thing is part of the problem, because it's confusing to veterans, it's confusing to the community providers," VA Deputy Undersecretary Dr. Baligh Yehia said last year.

Yehia says the VA has issued a request for proposals to streamline how it buys care from non-VA providers across the board. It expects to receive those proposals this summer.

VA leaders have said a big reason Veterans Choice foundered is because Congress provided only 90 days to set it up. The VA invited 57 companies to bid on running Choice, but only two responded, given the short timeline. Those two companies, Health Net Federal Services and TriWest, have struggled to make it work.

Tester, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Veterans' Affairs committee, says he hopes to have draft legislation incorporating private-sector reform proposals ready in the fall.

Tester says his goal is to "cut the red tape and make sure it's easy to work with for the providers. And I think we'll get more providers jumping on board, and we'll get more veterans using it, if the time to set up those appointments is reduced dramatically."

Tester says he'll defend the VA from those who "don't want the government involved in health care at all."

"I think it's idealism versus realism," Tester says. "We have folks that have borne the wounds of battle, and I think the VA is best suited to take care of those folks. So that VA needs to be there, and then we need to have a private sector that fills in the gaps around that VA."

That's particularly important in rural states like Tester's Montana, where VA facilities are an important part of a generally understaffed health care landscape. They provide vital services, but rely on partnerships with private-sector doctors, clinics and hospitals to provide specialty care, or appointments that don't require hours of driving.

This story is part of a reporting partnership with Montana Public Radio, NPR and Kaiser Health News.


Another article from NPR from 2016 -

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/05/16/477814218/attempted-fix-for-va-health-delays-creates-new-bureaucracy


Speeding up payments certainly can't hurt.  But it sure sounds like there are still massive problems with the VA that need to be addressed.  Trump's 8 month extension isn't the fix needed.


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So you approve, EG?  Did you congratulate BO when he originally signed this law in 2014 in response to the VA scandal?  What DT signed today is just an extension of BO's law, with a few changes, and it only extends the law until January.  Did you thank the Democrats, since it was a Dem who authored the extension bill? 

Did you thank John and Bernie for the original bill?  Did you call out Jeff Sessions for opposing it?  Or Corker?  Or Johnson?  From Wiki -

Senators John McCain (R-AZ) and Bernie Sanders (I-VT) were the two main senators who negotiated the bill. McCain said "is this a final solution to these problems? No, but it is a beginning." McCain also called the situation an "emergency" and said "if it's not an emergency that we've neglected these brave men and women who have protected our country, then I don't know what is."  Only three senators voted against the bill, Jeff Sessions (R-AL), Bob Corker (R-TN), and Ron Johnson (R-WI)


And there are other opinions about this (very expensive) program -

Trump Extends Troubled VA Program That Pays Private Doctors

It's a fix that hasn't fixed much, but the troubled Veterans Choice program has been extended anyway.

On Wednesday, President Donald Trump signed a bill extending the program intended to speed veterans' access to health care beyond its original August end point.

Veterans Choice is a $10 billion response to the 2014 scandal in which Veterans Affairs health facilities altered records to hide months-long waits for care in Phoenix and elsewhere. The Choice program pays for private-sector health care for veterans and was set to expire in August, but the VA and some of the program's harshest critics in Congress have agreed to extend it, with a few changes, until January. They said that will give the VA time to propose a more comprehensive package of reforms — fixes for the fix.

Sen. Jon Tester, D-Mont., authored the extension bill, which won bipartisan support in the House and Senate.

Veterans Choice is designed to allow veterans who have waited more than 30 days for an appointment at a VA facility, or who live more than 40 miles from one, instead to get care from private providers who then bill the VA. But it has been plagued with problems. Many vets complain that Choice actually makes getting care more difficult and time-consuming, and some health care providers have dropped out due to slow payments or administrative hassles.

The bigger reforms the VA wants to make following this extension bill will be aimed at fixing more than a half-dozen other systems the VA has for purchasing care from the private sector.

"The idea of having seven, eight ways of doing the same thing is part of the problem, because it's confusing to veterans, it's confusing to the community providers," VA Deputy Undersecretary Dr. Baligh Yehia said last year.

Yehia says the VA has issued a request for proposals to streamline how it buys care from non-VA providers across the board. It expects to receive those proposals this summer.

VA leaders have said a big reason Veterans Choice foundered is because Congress provided only 90 days to set it up. The VA invited 57 companies to bid on running Choice, but only two responded, given the short timeline. Those two companies, Health Net Federal Services and TriWest, have struggled to make it work.

Tester, the ranking Democrat on the Senate Veterans' Affairs committee, says he hopes to have draft legislation incorporating private-sector reform proposals ready in the fall.

Tester says his goal is to "cut the red tape and make sure it's easy to work with for the providers. And I think we'll get more providers jumping on board, and we'll get more veterans using it, if the time to set up those appointments is reduced dramatically."

Tester says he'll defend the VA from those who "don't want the government involved in health care at all."

"I think it's idealism versus realism," Tester says. "We have folks that have borne the wounds of battle, and I think the VA is best suited to take care of those folks. So that VA needs to be there, and then we need to have a private sector that fills in the gaps around that VA."

That's particularly important in rural states like Tester's Montana, where VA facilities are an important part of a generally understaffed health care landscape. They provide vital services, but rely on partnerships with private-sector doctors, clinics and hospitals to provide specialty care, or appointments that don't require hours of driving.

This story is part of a reporting partnership with Montana Public Radio, NPR and Kaiser Health News.


Another article from NPR from 2016 -

http://www.npr.org/sections/health-shots/2016/05/16/477814218/attempted-fix-for-va-health-delays-creates-new-bureaucracy


Speeding up payments certainly can't hurt.  But it sure sounds like there are still massive problems with the VA that need to be addressed.  Trump's 8 month extension isn't the fix needed.


Fun post.  On a lot of levels.

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Kill off the VA in regional areas. Check into a local hospital, hand them an I'm a veteran card, and get your treatment. VA can sit in the corner and suck a big RINO dong, while they watch private hospitals and clinics eliminate their bureaucratic paychecks Why do we continue giving the Federal Government funding? They waste 40-60% on payroll and benefits of every dollar they steal from us. Incompetent ah oles. .
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In general, Woody, I agree.  However, there are a few very good VA hospitals.  Those should continue.

When Bush became Governor of FL, he made every Dept in state gov't provide analysis to justify why their functions couldn't be outsourced or eliminated.  Some were retained, some were shrunk, some were eliminated, and some were outsourced.

I think that approach with elements of the Fed would go a long ways.
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I agree, but the majority of Vets do not have easy access to a VA hospital. They drive 60 miles to sit and wait? I call Bill Smith. Pay private practitioners in their home towns to treat them. Eliminate the VA bureaucracy. It has failed for generations of servicemen and women. Why continue to give the VA Federal Funding to fail? They are pathetic losers and fail everyday at even basic management skills. Why give the VA any tax money? They are an outdated bureaucracy sucking tax dollars as are most other ABC agencies. Kill them off now, and give easy access to HC to our veterans. It's real easy, competitive, and far cheaper than funding a crazy bureaucracy like the VA. What a pampas bunch of Aholes defending their self described irrelevance for their own paycheck.
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DC perhaps missed the point that Obummer should be thanking EG. 

Agree with Woodrow and Mike.  We can keep the good VA hospitals, eliminate the rotten parts, greatly reduce the overall size and scope of the VA and the VA as a bureaucracy.   Reduce VAs footprint as a hospital system, move more funds into VA as an insurance carrier.  Vets will get better care.

I find it funny when DC like dem post an article they claim argues their point for keeping government looming large in our lives, but end up proving quite the opposite.  

Here is how her articles read to me.  Dems try to quick role out healthcare payment system.  They fail at it miserably.  We should thank them for being fails.  Her conclusion: This is ultimate proof that government needs to be more involved, not less.  All you can say is WTF?

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I find it funny when DC like dem post an article they claim argues their point for keeping government looming large in our lives, but end up proving quite the opposite.  Dewy and DC do that quite often

Here is how her articles read to me.  Dems try to quick role out healthcare payment system.  They fail at it miserably.  We should thank them for being fails.  Her conclusion: This is ultimate proof that government needs to be more involved, not less.  All you can say is WTF?  I do often when they link arguing against their position

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Trump seems to continue to do the same thing he has done all along. Go over the top with unrealistic threats/statements/proposals, whip the msm into a futile frenzy that distracts them from substance, then 'compromise' and settle into a realistic 'agreement' that actually gets him a great result. MSM and nevertrumpers go crazy fixated on trump lied, trump failed, trump is incompetent.
Then he does it again.



"“I received calls from the President of Mexico and the Prime Minister of Canada asking to renegotiate NAFTA rather than terminate,” he wrote on Twitter. “I agreed subject to the fact that if we do not reach a fair deal for all, we will then terminate NAFTA. Relationships are good — deal very possible!”

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What's funny is how people are so surprised by Trump.........

Trump negotiates, that's what he's always done his whole life..........And, that's what he ran on..........
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Trump seems to continue to do the same thing he has done all along. Go over the top with unrealistic threats/statements/proposals, whip the msm into a futile frenzy that distracts them from substance, then 'compromise' and settle into a realistic 'agreement' that actually gets him a great result. MSM and nevertrumpers go crazy fixated on trump lied, trump failed, trump is incompetent.
Then he does it again.



"“I received calls from the President of Mexico and the Prime Minister of Canada asking to renegotiate NAFTA rather than terminate,” he wrote on Twitter. “I agreed subject to the fact that if we do not reach a fair deal for all, we will then terminate NAFTA. Relationships are good — deal very possible!”

"The wall" has been absolutely comical.  The continuos "No way Drumpf's getting his wall, no way, hahahahaha , hehehe Drumpf is such a loser".  

Meanwhile, illegal immigration down 90%.  Think about that number.  "No way to fix it" they said.  "Illegal immigration cannot be fixed."  "It is a more complex problem, than Drumpf can understand."  

There is literally nothing you can do to stop it, every time.  You just have to pat them on the back, and say, "yep, that drumpf, he lost again, Bucky.  What-a we gonna do? "



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Trump on twiiter: "The Democrats want to shut government if we don't bail out Puerto Rico and give billions to their insurance companies for OCare failure. NO!"
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The guy does lie.  Not as much since he was elected, but the whole primary and general was lies. 

I suppose if you wanted to be nice, you could say he told everyone what they wanted to hear.

As for over the top statements that then come out well - he says over the top stuff.  Still waiting to see how it comes out well.


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Trump seems to continue to do the same thing he has done all along. Go over the top with unrealistic threats/statements/proposals, whip the msm into a futile frenzy that distracts them from substance, then 'compromise' and settle into a realistic 'agreement' that actually gets him a great result. MSM and nevertrumpers go crazy fixated on trump lied, trump failed, trump is incompetent.
Then he does it again.



"“I received calls from the President of Mexico and the Prime Minister of Canada asking to renegotiate NAFTA rather than terminate,” he wrote on Twitter. “I agreed subject to the fact that if we do not reach a fair deal for all, we will then terminate NAFTA. Relationships are good — deal very possible!”
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Trump on twiiter: "The Democrats want to shut government if we don't bail out Puerto Rico and give billions to their insurance companies for OCare failure. NO!"


Will it be a waterloo moment?

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I hope so.
As witnessed below, Homer Simpson was right. Rock DID attain perfection in 1974.




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Mike said...........
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The guy does lie. 


Of course he does, Mike........Everyone does, me and you included..........
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I hope so.
As witnessed below, Homer Simpson was right. Rock DID attain perfection in 1974.





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