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uwApoligist

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Go with lower cost solution.  indigent care.  Mostly done on donations.  Super cheap.  That couple does not warrant Cadillac care.  That is for that save and provide for their own.

Nobody goes off any cliff in the US.  Never have.  That was all lies.

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More hypocrisy from the GOP

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/13/trump-white-house-donald-ivanka-jared-clinton

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Birds of a feather.....  [rofl][rofl][rofl]

https://pagesix.com/2018/06/12/rudy-giulianis-wife-says-hes-a-cheating-liar/


Lawrence O'Donnel tweeted -

Rupert Murdoch protects his investment in the White House by trying to force Rudy Giuliani out. Rupert’s NYPost has 2 page spread of Rudy’s romance complete with surveillance pics. Rupert obviously thinks Rudy is bad for Trump.

[DfmB1RzVQAEqeVC]

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Larry O'Donnell?  Oh DC. You probably know all about a woman scorned, eh?  Remember when you had that JFK quote in your sig line, and I pointed out that he was the biggest adulterer male pig ever to prowl the WH back rooms? That was awkward, glad you deleted that.
Anyhoo, let's see. RG likes him some big-boobed women. His wife sued him for divorce over two months ago, no other women alluded to in the filing, she cited irreconcilable differences. 
RG seems to be a pig. Wish trump would not have brought him on board. My sensibilities are offended. Drumpf will be impeached.
See you next week.

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Well, the alternative is to not negotiate, or have foreign policy discussions with any nation state and it's leadership that could be considered a dictatorship, military junta, or monarchy. That would eliminate entering into foreign policy discussions, and treaties with most of Africa, Central America, much of the Middle East, Eastern Europe, and Asia. Sounds more like an isolationist position.
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If Obama had met with Kim and given him a pile of money to play nice the likes of Twerp and DChode would have wet panties
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If Obama had met with Kim and given him a pile of money to play nice the likes of Twerp and DChode would have wet panties


Like duaine bragging about the Iran deal, yeah I remember that

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Asked about Kim's human-rights violations and atrocities, Trump called Kim Jung Un "a tough guy," after earlier calling him a "smart guy" and "very honorable." Trump insults our oldest allies but doesn't have a problem with a dictator who murdered an American student and his own brother and uncle and has thrown hundreds if not thousands of people in gulags. To say that Trump is a disgrace would be an understatement. Trump is an immoral, disgusting man--always has been, always will be. 

Here's the former supreme commander of NATO on Trump:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-06-14/trump-s-g-7-rhetoric-will-hit-nato-hard



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ZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZMUHZZZZZZZZZZZZZZMUHZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZMUH
don’t you ever get tired of sounding like a teenage girl on her period

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White House is bleeding employees, forced to advertise for staffers. Here's your chance, fellas, to work for your fake hair, fake teeth, fake tan, fake everything hero! He needs more staffers who share his views that Putin should be our friend and Merkel and Macron and Trudeau our enemies. Don't let this opportunity pass!

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/no-one-wants-to-work-at-the-wh-so-its-having-a-job-fair.html

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Vance - I'm glad you have this forum for therapy.  You are obviously a very, very angry liberal and you hate that the country is doing so well.

By all means, keep banging on Trump.  You and all of your leftist comrades are as responsible as anyone for putting Trump in the Oval Office.

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Even scotty knew when to hang it up, kazoo you complain almost as much as duaine.  Don't be that guy, you're tiresome and your audience is zero
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uwApoligist

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Lefties need to learn to not be such haters.  Peace through strength has and will always work.  It goes to the human nature of the matter.  

Trump is shaking hands after the guy has submitted to consistent long and hard pressure.  The sanctions were devastating this time.   Early on Trump knew China was the key.  That if he could somehow through trick, direct pressure, whatever get China to buy into sanctioning Korea, even ever so slightly, Trump knew that was the pressure point. 

Met with Xi.  Told Xi that Trump would lump China/trade/nkor all together.  Xi complained.  The early on they tested him.  Launched missiles over skor, then over Guam, towards Japan. 

Trump did a good job of getting China to publicly state they would support sanctions against NKor.  Full well knowing they always publicly say that, then turn around and sneak stuff in.  So Trump did a good job of raising awareness that China was committed to publicly support sanctions.  Got others to repeat it back.  Then he publicly announces they boarded that Chinese fuel ship headed for Nkor.  Used it as a massive public embarrassment of China.

This put China out of position.  Trump could do almost anything he wanted, and just point to the Chinese being dishonest. 

It was answering the foreign policy challenges with well leveraged strength.  And answering the missile firings and other belligerent actions with equal, measured and calmly delivered belligerent actions.  

It worked for Reagan.  it has always worked.  And you seeing a master play the hand now. 

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The bottom line is that WE'VE given up military exercises with South Korea while NK has committed to nothing, really--a pledge to denuclearize down the road. Know that NK has many times made this pledge--and done so with more specificity during past negotiations with the United States, and nothing came of it. Maybe something will this time, but don't count on it--and NK will keep asking for more U.S. concessions, of that you can be sure--most notably removing troops from South Korea. 

Meanwhile, here's Trump saluting a NK general--a protocol no-no, of course--but then what is Trump but a walking/talking faux pas. U.S. presidents don't even salute our own generals, as the military analyst points out, much less foreign generals and much, much less generals from adversary nations. 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2018/06/14/north-korea-state-media-airs-unseen-video-trump-salute-general.cnn/video/playlists/us-north-korea-summit/

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pabar61

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Military exercises aren't planned until later this year.
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Obama bowed to leaders, definitely a no-no right Vance?

Dems aren't seeing the long game here.  You can't look at these meetings in a vacuum, they are all intertwined.  Meetings, along with sanctions, just might free and improve millions of Korean lives.

But I guess you would rather comment on fake hair.
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Too much focus on Trump.  The real work is being done by Pompeo and Bolton.  Pompeo was in Seoul yesterday and Beijing today.  That is where the real success will come or won't.
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uwApoligist

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Quote:
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The bottom line is that WE'VE given up military exercises with South Korea while NK has committed to nothing, really--a pledge to denuclearize down the road. Know that NK has many times made this pledge--and done so with more specificity during past negotiations with the United States, and nothing came of it. Maybe something will this time, but don't count on it--and NK will keep asking for more U.S. concessions, of that you can be sure--most notably removing troops from South Korea. 

Meanwhile, here's Trump saluting a NK general--a protocol no-no, of course--but then what is Trump but a walking/talking faux pas. U.S. presidents don't even salute our own generals, as the military analyst points out, much less foreign generals and much, much less generals from adversary nations. 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2018/06/14/north-korea-state-media-airs-unseen-video-trump-salute-general.cnn/video/playlists/us-north-korea-summit/

The left hyperventilating about the salute is classic lefty hive mentality.  Started yesterday around 5pm.  Trump is uncomfortable with the salute.  Then off to the races it goes.  Echo off the MSM wall, then echo off the reddit hyperventialtors then over to twitter.  "Trump is a dewfus."  "He does not salute is own generals."  and then the pinnacle.  "Trump salutes foreign officer a major military faux pas" 

Of course all not true.  all irrelevant.  

Trump is our militaries commander.  That is why he always salutes our generals, and they salute him.  There is nothing subordinate about saluting someone, senior in rank or lower in rank.  There is no subordination that lower ranks return upper ranks salutes, while it often happens that way, but that is mostly as the lower ranks are often busy shooting at the enemy when the upper rank shows up.  It is a gesture of mutual respect. 

I don't know why lefties always assume the military is all about rank, and hierarchy.  It is way more about leadership, team work and mutual respect.  Think about it for a second, and you will realize this is the only formula that will keep you alive. 

And it is common for foreign officers to salute each other. 

Spend a bit learn about things and your hyperventilation won't look so dumb.

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uwApoligist

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Trump + Xi was the chief leverage points.  When things get stuck they go up to those two to resolve.  No mistake about that.

No doubt important details will be hammered through Pompeo and Bolton.  

I have never been a big fan of Bolton.  I am super impressed by how smart he is and he has clearly studied.  He was just one of those guys that was always willing to roll out the 'we gotta listen to France' sh1t that always goes so wrong. 

Pompeo has impressed me entirely. 

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I prefer saluting to bowing.  The U.S. should NEVER bow to anyone, ever.
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Originally Posted by uwApoligist

The left hyperventilating about the salute is classic lefty hive mentality.  Started yesterday around 5pm.  Trump is uncomfortable with the salute.  Then off to the races it goes.  Echo off the MSM wall, then echo off the reddit hyperventialtors then over to twitter.  "Trump is a dewfus."  "He does not salute is own generals."  and then the pinnacle.  "Trump salutes foreign officer a major military faux pas" 

Of course all not true.  all irrelevant.  

Trump is our militaries commander.  That is why he always salutes our generals, and they salute him.  There is nothing subordinate about saluting someone, senior in rank or lower in rank.  There is no subordination that lower ranks return upper ranks salutes, while it often happens that way, but that is mostly as the lower ranks are often busy shooting at the enemy when the upper rank shows up.  It is a gesture of mutual respect. 

I don't know why lefties always assume the military is all about rank, and hierarchy.  It is way more about leadership, team work and mutual respect.  Think about it for a second, and you will realize this is the only formula that will keep you alive. 

And it is common for foreign officers to salute each other. 

Spend a bit learn about things and your hyperventilation won't look so dumb.


Oh, come on uwA - this is totally hypocritical and you know it.  Had Obama saluted a NK military man, you would have had a STROKE.  DT was DEAD WRONG to have saluted. 

And where is mikec, who got so bent out of shape when BO saluted with a coffee cup in his hand?  Wow.  Just.  Wow.  Remember, mikec?

http://robocoach.websitetoolbox.com/post/wow-just-wow-is-really-all-you-can-say-7093255?highlight=obama+salute&pid=1284415870


You really are just cult members.  Open your eyes.  Open your minds.  If you care about your country and our democracy, you will not continue to make excuses for this sorry excuse of a president.

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uwApoligist

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Oh, come on uwA - this is totally hypocritical and you know it.  Had Obama saluted a NK military man, you would have had a STROKE.  DT was DEAD WRONG to have saluted. 

And where is mikec, who got so bent out of shape when BO saluted with a coffee cup in his hand?  Wow.  Just.  Wow.  Remember, mikec?

http://robocoach.websitetoolbox.com/post/wow-just-wow-is-really-all-you-can-say-7093255?highlight=obama+salute&pid=1284415870


You really are just cult members.  Open your eyes.  Open your minds.  If you care about your country and our democracy, you will not continue to make excuses for this sorry excuse of a president.

Actually you are not supposed to salute with a coffee cup, that would be dumb.

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uwApoligist

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Also making sure you saw this part of my post.

"all irrelevant. "

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Some Republicans are pushing for legislation to stop separating these immigrant children from their parents. I favor such legislation. What say you?





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Don’t change your login name
Will_I_Wynn

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Maybe it’s best not to take a position or one might have to explain their flip flop later.




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Maybe it’s best not to take a position or one might have to explain their flip flop later.





Like flip-flopping from Dewey to Will I Wynn.

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uwApoligist

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Some Republicans are pushing for legislation to stop separating these immigrant children from their parents. I favor such legislation. What say you?

Don't care either way.  
- They were doing that under Obama, before Drumpf
- Those people don't like, they should stop violating another countries immigration law.

A little common sense goes a long way.

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Some Republicans are pushing for legislation to stop separating these immigrant children from their parents. I favor such legislation. What say you?






At the border.

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Some Republicans are pushing for legislation to stop separating these immigrant children from their parents. I favor such legislation. What say you?






Angry republicans or non angry republicans? Before we enter a rabbit hole let us know

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