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The red pills.  They are often just free. 

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He's furiously searching for talking points

The only thing Kazoo is furiously searching for is his lotion bottle

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uwApoligist

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Fed announces increase in projected GDP growth from 3.6 to 3.8. 
Unemployment projection was lowered from 3.8 percent to 3.6 percent. 
Fed report says Economic Activity has been rising at a solid rate. 

https://www.cnbc.com/2018/06/13/fed-raises-2018-outlook-for-us-economy.html

Wanted to get this before Dewey blames Drumpf for raising interest rates.

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We borrowed billions and billions so the economy had better grow.


Ex:

The median real GDP forecast rose to 2.8 percent, up from 2.7 percent, for this year. There were no changes for 2019 and 2020, and the longer run median forecast remained 1.8 percent.

Economic activity has been rising at a "solid" rate, the Fed's statement said, marking an upgrade from "moderate" in the previous statement. The central bank raised its benchmark short-term interest rate a quarter of a percentage point on Wednesday and indicated two more hikes will likely come this year.

Policymakers also lowered their expectations for the unemployment rate. The median projection for this year fell to 3.6 percent, down from 3.8 percent. For 2019 and 2020, the median expectation for the unemployment rate declined to 3.5 percent, from 3.6 percent.


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The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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We had record tax collections and still had over 500 billion in deficit spending. Do you think that maybe we should possibly slow down spending? Just a crazy idea.
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Maybe start with reducing entitlement spending like SS disability, welfare and Medicaid. You know push granny her daughter and her five illegitimate children off the cliff along with all the illegal aliens and their spawn.
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If revenue is expected to increase 5% and it increases 3%, it's a new record but it also may be a disappointment depending on ones perspective.

Population growth coupled with inflation makes an actual cut in year to year spending highly unlikely.  One would have to cut the standard of living or standard of care for those receiving benefits like SS and Medicare and one would have to cut real dollars from defense spending and other programs.

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

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Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


woody

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Just separate Medicaid and welfare out of the current entitlement spending and make stand alone indigent programs. That way the funding would be voted on and wouldn’t affect the ss and Medicare programs that have been raped by Democrats for generations
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You do realize that we used to survive as a nation without providing food housing and medical care for indigents from cradle to grave? Socialist believe in a powerful central government that hands out table scraps, and penalize those that strive for excellence.
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The cradle to grave story is a misrepresentation of our nation.  A young couple gets married, has no children, and at 60 years old they both come down with cancer.  No family whatsoever, no SS or Medicare programs, and couple failed to save for future medical problems.  What do we do?

- Couple dies without medical care

- Couple gets taxpayer dollars to help their cause.



If you choose the first outcome, I can't argue with your position.  It makes sense.  People should provide for their own well being.  However, if we're going to go with option two, then I want programs in place to force these people to set aside for their own future expenses.  I don't want my savings designated for their unfortunate illness which they failed to prepare for.  I don't know how many on the Right are willing to elect option one but I know this nation has made her decision.

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A gullible nation is a vulnerable nation.  Challenge what you read on the internet.  Our nation's security is in our hands.  Don't be duped by misinformation.

The Right in here are quoting posts and changing words.  Please search for original post if accurate information is desired.  Also, claims I moderate this discussion forum are untrue.

Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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Don’t be so ready to hand out my tax dollars. If they chose not to get insurance then they get the care they paid for. Morphine drip and a clergyman. It cost tax dollars but it isn’t cradle to grave like you propose.
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Go with lower cost solution.  indigent care.  Mostly done on donations.  Super cheap.  That couple does not warrant Cadillac care.  That is for that save and provide for their own.

Nobody goes off any cliff in the US.  Never have.  That was all lies.

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More hypocrisy from the GOP

https://www.theguardian.com/commentisfree/2018/jun/13/trump-white-house-donald-ivanka-jared-clinton

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Birds of a feather.....  [rofl][rofl][rofl]

https://pagesix.com/2018/06/12/rudy-giulianis-wife-says-hes-a-cheating-liar/


Lawrence O'Donnel tweeted -

Rupert Murdoch protects his investment in the White House by trying to force Rudy Giuliani out. Rupert’s NYPost has 2 page spread of Rudy’s romance complete with surveillance pics. Rupert obviously thinks Rudy is bad for Trump.

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Larry O'Donnell?  Oh DC. You probably know all about a woman scorned, eh?  Remember when you had that JFK quote in your sig line, and I pointed out that he was the biggest adulterer male pig ever to prowl the WH back rooms? That was awkward, glad you deleted that.
Anyhoo, let's see. RG likes him some big-boobed women. His wife sued him for divorce over two months ago, no other women alluded to in the filing, she cited irreconcilable differences. 
RG seems to be a pig. Wish trump would not have brought him on board. My sensibilities are offended. Drumpf will be impeached.
See you next week.

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Well, the alternative is to not negotiate, or have foreign policy discussions with any nation state and it's leadership that could be considered a dictatorship, military junta, or monarchy. That would eliminate entering into foreign policy discussions, and treaties with most of Africa, Central America, much of the Middle East, Eastern Europe, and Asia. Sounds more like an isolationist position.
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If Obama had met with Kim and given him a pile of money to play nice the likes of Twerp and DChode would have wet panties
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If Obama had met with Kim and given him a pile of money to play nice the likes of Twerp and DChode would have wet panties


Like duaine bragging about the Iran deal, yeah I remember that

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Asked about Kim's human-rights violations and atrocities, Trump called Kim Jung Un "a tough guy," after earlier calling him a "smart guy" and "very honorable." Trump insults our oldest allies but doesn't have a problem with a dictator who murdered an American student and his own brother and uncle and has thrown hundreds if not thousands of people in gulags. To say that Trump is a disgrace would be an understatement. Trump is an immoral, disgusting man--always has been, always will be. 

Here's the former supreme commander of NATO on Trump:

https://www.bloomberg.com/view/articles/2018-06-14/trump-s-g-7-rhetoric-will-hit-nato-hard



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don’t you ever get tired of sounding like a teenage girl on her period

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White House is bleeding employees, forced to advertise for staffers. Here's your chance, fellas, to work for your fake hair, fake teeth, fake tan, fake everything hero! He needs more staffers who share his views that Putin should be our friend and Merkel and Macron and Trudeau our enemies. Don't let this opportunity pass!

http://nymag.com/daily/intelligencer/2018/06/no-one-wants-to-work-at-the-wh-so-its-having-a-job-fair.html

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Vance - I'm glad you have this forum for therapy.  You are obviously a very, very angry liberal and you hate that the country is doing so well.

By all means, keep banging on Trump.  You and all of your leftist comrades are as responsible as anyone for putting Trump in the Oval Office.

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Even scotty knew when to hang it up, kazoo you complain almost as much as duaine.  Don't be that guy, you're tiresome and your audience is zero
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"Getting your motor revved about taking our guns is going to be what undoes your efforts."

"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
uwApoligist

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Lefties need to learn to not be such haters.  Peace through strength has and will always work.  It goes to the human nature of the matter.  

Trump is shaking hands after the guy has submitted to consistent long and hard pressure.  The sanctions were devastating this time.   Early on Trump knew China was the key.  That if he could somehow through trick, direct pressure, whatever get China to buy into sanctioning Korea, even ever so slightly, Trump knew that was the pressure point. 

Met with Xi.  Told Xi that Trump would lump China/trade/nkor all together.  Xi complained.  The early on they tested him.  Launched missiles over skor, then over Guam, towards Japan. 

Trump did a good job of getting China to publicly state they would support sanctions against NKor.  Full well knowing they always publicly say that, then turn around and sneak stuff in.  So Trump did a good job of raising awareness that China was committed to publicly support sanctions.  Got others to repeat it back.  Then he publicly announces they boarded that Chinese fuel ship headed for Nkor.  Used it as a massive public embarrassment of China.

This put China out of position.  Trump could do almost anything he wanted, and just point to the Chinese being dishonest. 

It was answering the foreign policy challenges with well leveraged strength.  And answering the missile firings and other belligerent actions with equal, measured and calmly delivered belligerent actions.  

It worked for Reagan.  it has always worked.  And you seeing a master play the hand now. 

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The bottom line is that WE'VE given up military exercises with South Korea while NK has committed to nothing, really--a pledge to denuclearize down the road. Know that NK has many times made this pledge--and done so with more specificity during past negotiations with the United States, and nothing came of it. Maybe something will this time, but don't count on it--and NK will keep asking for more U.S. concessions, of that you can be sure--most notably removing troops from South Korea. 

Meanwhile, here's Trump saluting a NK general--a protocol no-no, of course--but then what is Trump but a walking/talking faux pas. U.S. presidents don't even salute our own generals, as the military analyst points out, much less foreign generals and much, much less generals from adversary nations. 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2018/06/14/north-korea-state-media-airs-unseen-video-trump-salute-general.cnn/video/playlists/us-north-korea-summit/

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Military exercises aren't planned until later this year.
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Obama bowed to leaders, definitely a no-no right Vance?

Dems aren't seeing the long game here.  You can't look at these meetings in a vacuum, they are all intertwined.  Meetings, along with sanctions, just might free and improve millions of Korean lives.

But I guess you would rather comment on fake hair.
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Too much focus on Trump.  The real work is being done by Pompeo and Bolton.  Pompeo was in Seoul yesterday and Beijing today.  That is where the real success will come or won't.
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The bottom line is that WE'VE given up military exercises with South Korea while NK has committed to nothing, really--a pledge to denuclearize down the road. Know that NK has many times made this pledge--and done so with more specificity during past negotiations with the United States, and nothing came of it. Maybe something will this time, but don't count on it--and NK will keep asking for more U.S. concessions, of that you can be sure--most notably removing troops from South Korea. 

Meanwhile, here's Trump saluting a NK general--a protocol no-no, of course--but then what is Trump but a walking/talking faux pas. U.S. presidents don't even salute our own generals, as the military analyst points out, much less foreign generals and much, much less generals from adversary nations. 

https://www.cnn.com/videos/world/2018/06/14/north-korea-state-media-airs-unseen-video-trump-salute-general.cnn/video/playlists/us-north-korea-summit/

The left hyperventilating about the salute is classic lefty hive mentality.  Started yesterday around 5pm.  Trump is uncomfortable with the salute.  Then off to the races it goes.  Echo off the MSM wall, then echo off the reddit hyperventialtors then over to twitter.  "Trump is a dewfus."  "He does not salute is own generals."  and then the pinnacle.  "Trump salutes foreign officer a major military faux pas" 

Of course all not true.  all irrelevant.  

Trump is our militaries commander.  That is why he always salutes our generals, and they salute him.  There is nothing subordinate about saluting someone, senior in rank or lower in rank.  There is no subordination that lower ranks return upper ranks salutes, while it often happens that way, but that is mostly as the lower ranks are often busy shooting at the enemy when the upper rank shows up.  It is a gesture of mutual respect. 

I don't know why lefties always assume the military is all about rank, and hierarchy.  It is way more about leadership, team work and mutual respect.  Think about it for a second, and you will realize this is the only formula that will keep you alive. 

And it is common for foreign officers to salute each other. 

Spend a bit learn about things and your hyperventilation won't look so dumb.

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