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keepinitreal

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How many threads can we create with Trump's name in the title?
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Since you did, let's look forward to the voting Tuesday.......Then Indiana and California.......Gonna be a good time.......
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kiir-

You trying for a chorus of trumpets?

I can't vote for Trump. I can't vote for Hillary. Fence sitters sit out the first round.

And the two parties are offering those two, in all likelihood, when it counts? Not music to my ears. Ugh. Cacophony.

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Since you did, let's look forward to the voting Tuesday.......Then Indiana and California.......Gonna be a good time.......


All the way for the touchdown

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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And if Trump gets the 1237 delegates, he is the nominee. The GOP establishment, and the DNC can suck it. Then we go on from there and let the cards fall.
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13 Times New York Voters Proved Their Stupidity

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APRIL 20, 2016

 

So, yesterday New Yorkers proved once again that they are cynical, brilliant and tough by voting in droves for a bloviating, nasty old lying con man and a corrupt, vicious old political hack. This demonstrates that New Yorkers are thick-skinned and culturally aware. Or something.

Truthfully, however, last night’s vote doesn’t even hit the top 10 in terms of bad New York city and state votes and movements. Here are 12 other doozies:

 

1. New York Abstains From The Declaration Of Independence. The Lee Resolution, which Congress adopted to announce its independence from Great Britain, had to be adopted without any dissenters. New York abstained. Of course.

2. New York Goes Copperhead. In the middle of the Civil War, New York voted in Governor Horatio Seymour, a Democrat. Remember, the Democrats were on the wrong side of the Civil War. In February 1861, Seymour sided with the Southerners openly. As the Governor, Seymour pledged to fight the Lincoln Administration’s efforts to prosecute the war. He also opposed emancipation and conscription. When rioters took to the streets to protest the draft, Seymour promptly justified them by stating that the Conscription Act was unconstitutional.

3. New York Spawns Progressivism. New York elected Teddy Roosevelt governor on the basis of his progressive, big government politics. Roosevelt may have been a Republican, but he was a progressive first and foremost; he believed in using government to crack down on industry (he said commercialism was “mean and sordid”) and laid the groundwork for the massive administrative state. Teddy would go on to hand the White House to the execrable Woodrow Wilson. Thanks, New York!

4. New York Creates The FDR Era. As if one Roosevelt wasn’t enough, New York put FDR into power – the man who would soon put in place policies exacerbating the Great Depression into a decade-long malaise. As governor of New York, he had no real agenda program, but did create models for his national policies in the form of emergency relief funds and extensions of unemployment benefits. He labeled the Constitution “the most elastic compilation of rules of government ever written.”

5. New York Elects Robert F. Kennedy. Robert F. Kennedy was from Massachusetts. New York elected him senator anyway. As Tom Lehrer put it, this made Massachusetts “the only state with three senators.” This opened up a can of worms for New York in which celebrities carpetbag over to the state in order to run. What was Nixon’s “home state” in 1968? New York. Hillary Clinton? New York. But don’t worry – New Yorkers insist that they really believe in the quality of other New Yorkers.

6. New York Supports Robert F. Wagner. Senator Robert F. Wagner helped usher in the destruction of New York City with the National Labor Relations Act, which created unionization of the public sector. This ended up essentially bankrupting New York City, as unions elected their politicians and raided the taxpayer bank accounts.

 

7. New York Backs Fiorello La Guardia. La Guardia was mayor from 1934 to 1945. Instead of allowing New York City to build on the back of its own industry and labor and tax base, La Guardia made a habit of looking to FDR and the federal government for funding for both building and jobs, ushering in an era of federal dependency New York has never been able to overcome. By building up a dependency class, LaGuardia hitched New York’s future to big government. And New Yorkers loved him for it.

8. New York Backs John Lindsey. New York City elected Mayor John Lindsay. Twice. This despite the fact that Lindsay was so anti-cop that cops booed him at the funeral of Officer Rocco Laurie. This despite the fact that Lindsay actively utilized city resources to attempt to enroll people in welfare and hire them to empty government jobs in order to appease potential rioters. Lindsay bred a culture in which one mother actually shouted at him, “I’ve got six kids, and each one of them as a different daddy. It’s my job to have kids, and your job, Mr. Mayor, to take care of them.” Great job, New York.

9. New York Backs David Dinkins. David Dinkins, a Democratic hack, helped exacerbate racial divisions in New York City; both welfare and crime soared (although crime rates dropped in the latter half of Dinkins’ tenure – but they almost had to given that the murder rate rose to an all-time high under Dinkins). Steven Malangaa writes that Dinkins “wholly embraced the War on Poverty’s core belief that the problems of the urban poor sprang from vast external forces over which neither they nor the politicians had much control....Accordingly, Dinkins wanted to turn the police into social workers. His police commissioner, Lee Brown, believed that cops should stop reacting to crime and become neighborhood 'problem solvers.'” New Yorkers corrected their mistake by electing Rudy Giuliani after four years of Dinkins.

10. New York Backs The Cuomos. Mario Cuomo was governor of New York from 1983 to 1994, a period in which New York City became known as a crime center and a disaster area. He expanded welfare policies and pushed leftist social policies. There’s a reason that more black babies are aborted in New York City than born. New Yorkers then elected Cuomo’s son, Andrew, who has spent his tenure grandstanding on race and anti-gun legislation while allowing crime rates to grow and the economy to stagnate.

11. New York Backs Elliot Spitzer For Governor and Anthony Weiner For Congress. Elliot Spitzer spent a year as Governor of New York before being ousted over a prostitution scandal. Weiner spent years in Congress before sexting over Twitter.

12. New York Backs Bill De Blasio. Bill De Blasio is a communist who has singlehandedly restored New York to its pre-Giuliani cesspool status. He has undercut the cops, destroyed quality of life, and driven business out of the city.

So, well done, New York. Trump and Hillary are right in your wheelhouse.


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So, well done, New York. Trump and Hillary are right in your wheelhouse.


But, so are most of the other states......
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And if Trump gets the 1237 delegates, he is the nominee. The GOP establishment, and the DNC can suck it. Then we go on from there and let the cards fall.


Then if you lose, you'll claim you had the wrong candidate.  Groundhog election.

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One day Trump wants trannys in both bathrooms,the next day he folds and wants the states and local communities decide where the trannys squat. Trump is a typical flip-flopping libtard, he should own the democrat vote. He's one of them
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Wait, he changed his position?

I'm shocked.
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Then if you lose, you'll claim you had the wrong candidate.  Groundhog election.


Not at all. Romney was the wrong candidate, and just like the previous contest, the GOP shoved a candidate of their choosing down our throats. Not this time, Cruz and Trump are both hated by the GOP establishment. While I support a true conservative, Ted Cruz, I cannot deny that Trump has brought a lot of Democrats, and Independents into the GOP primary process. The large increase in GOP Primary voters, should be of concern for the DNC and their anointed candidate.

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My guess is, get ready for eight years of a Trump Presidency.......
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woody - I guarantee you, if Republicans lose with Donald Trump, somebody here will claim the GOP lost because they had the wrong candidate.
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Picture this.....

Cruz and Fiorina on the ticket...........That would drum up about the same excitement as watching a turtle race.......Lowest voter turnout ever......And, not even one Trump supporter vote....... 
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woody - I guarantee you, if Republicans lose with Donald Trump, somebody here will claim the GOP lost because they had the wrong candidate.


And if Democrats lose with anyone, they'll blame it on voter suppression.
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Picture this.....

Cruz and Fiorina on the ticket...........That would drum up about the same excitement as watching a turtle race.......Lowest voter turnout ever......And, not even one Trump supporter vote....... 


picture this:  trump and anyone.

Dems will mobilize big time, about half of the 65% of the GOP that has not voted trump will sit out, and trump will lose to Clinton in epic fashion.
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... Romney was the wrong candidate, and just like the previous contest, the GOP shoved a candidate of their choosing down our throats. Not this time, Cruz and Trump are both hated by the GOP establishment. ...

Which candidates did you support in 2008 and 2012? Specifically, who and how did the GOP shove a candidate of their choosing down our throats
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PDad - In the past, woody has objected to the order of the GOP primaries and how they favor, in his opinion, GOP establishment candidates.  I think I have that right.  I'm sure he has other objections to the overall process as well.
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Same old Dewey - speaking for conservatives. smh If you don't mind, I prefer to hear what Woody had in mind when he wrote that.
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I know, I'm a meanie. 
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Trump crushed it today.

Called for Bernie to run independent because of how the DNC has treated him so poorly. [rofl]

Said Hillary doesn't know anything about jobs. Legit point there.

What an election!

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I would vote for Bernie in a independent 3rd party scenario. We could beat Donald
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Deeray McKesson of BLM fame was running for mayor Baltimore.

Trump got more votes in heavily Dem Baltimore than Deeray got. [crazy] [rofl]

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Which candidates did you support in 2008 and 2012? Specifically, who and how did the GOP shove a candidate of their choosing down our throats


I voted for Huckabee in 08 and Gingrich in the 2012 primaries. Newt was similar to an insurgent candidate, but wasn't an outsider by any means. Paul was an outsider that sucked away a few votes. It was McCain's turn said the GOP, and he crashed and burned. Then Romney ran again in 2012, and was crowned the GOP insider, and got the RNC support. By putting a devout Mormon at the top of the ticket, the GOP lost a lot of religious voters. Like it or not, many GOP voters are religious, and do not agree with the Mormon faith and stayed home. I voted for Romney, but I know a few people that told me they left his box blank while voting.

Trump is going to win the nomination, short of an RNC hijacking at the convention. Trump is brash, offensive, and turns off a lot of voters. But, he does inspire a lot of voters both Dem, Independent, and Republican. He doesn't do the PC crap, and many are drawn to that. If he is the nominee, I will hold my nose and vote for him in order to stop Clinton from being POTUS. I think she is a bad person, and not just as a politician. I think she would do much harm to our nation.

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Last night was a big, big, win for America..........Trump voters are taking back our country.......[smile]

How can you win every county in every state is something I just don't know........Doesn't even sound possible.......

Poor Hillary.......She'd be better off just quitting now!

What happened to predictions of all these negative numbers for Trump?.......Guess they were make-believe numbers after all! 
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easy - last night was the liberal northeast.  Of course the Democrat in the GOP is going to win there.

The election is not over, but IN looms large.  We shall see how it plays out.

Woody - will you religious friends sit out, or vote for a man who promotes abortion, says men can use the women's room, and is essentially anti-God?

Will be interesting to see if none of that matters to them.

blue once said there were many anti-Christs running around, and now he is enthusiastically backing one of them for POTUS.
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I don't know how the religious right will react to Trump. Cruz has that vote thus far. I wonder if any religious Democrats will have reservations about voting for Hillary who has received awards from planned parenthood.
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I voted for Huckabee in 08 and Gingrich in the 2012 primaries. Newt was similar to an insurgent candidate, but wasn't an outsider by any means. Paul was an outsider that sucked away a few votes. It was McCain's turn said the GOP, and he crashed and burned. Then Romney ran again in 2012, and was crowned the GOP insider, and got the RNC support. By putting a devout Mormon at the top of the ticket, the GOP lost a lot of religious voters. Like it or not, many GOP voters are religious, and do not agree with the Mormon faith and stayed home. I voted for Romney, but I know a few people that told me they left his box blank while voting.

Thanks for answering whom you supported. I agree with most of your analysis, however I'd still like you to clarify who and how "the GOP shoved a candidate of their choosing down our throats." I presume GOP means the RNC and party bosses, right? I expect financial backing was part of it. Anything else?
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I think the GOP, like the DNC will put forth a candidate that represents their interests. Those interests are not always what the electorate wants. Reagan was marginalized by the RNC more than once. Sanders is outside the DNC control, and is being snuffed out by Super delegates. It is a private club that the electorate can only enter when they storm the guarded doors in large numbers. It's their party, (DNC and RNC) and we are just lowly outsiders with no VIP pass.
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As for bringing in the great white Knight, it appears Donald Trump beat the GOP establishment to the punch.
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