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White Supremacists Mobilize For Donald Trump


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Huffington Post
Christina White

As the Republican presidential primary moves into the American south, white supremacist groups are working to mobilize racists to get out the vote for Donald Trump.

On Wednesday, David Duke, the white nationalist and former Ku Klux Klan Grand Wizard, encouraged his radio show listeners to volunteer for Trump's campaign. "Call Donald Trump’s headquarters [and] volunteer," he said on the "David Duke Radio Program." At Trump campaign offices, he said, "you’re gonna meet people who are going to have the same kind of mindset that you have.”

In Minnesota and Vermont, a white supremacist super PAC called the American National Super PAC has begun circulating a robocall in support of Trump.

"The white race is dying out in America and Europe because we are afraid to be called 'racist,' says William Johnson, the leader of the white nationalist American Freedom Party. He goes on to bemoan "gradual genocide against the white race," and how few "schools anymore have beautiful white children as the majority." He signs off by telling recipients, "Don’t vote for a Cuban. Vote for Donald Trump."

Johnson is not affiliated in any way with the Trump campaign, and Trump has distanced himself from Johnson's views. Trump also promised to return a $250 contribution Johnson made to his campaign.

But Trump's response to the white supremacists backing him is hardly enough to put them off, said Mark Potok, senior fellow at the Southern Poverty Law Center, a nonprofit that monitors hate groups.

"Trump has 'quote unquote' repudiated these groups, but only in the most milquetoast way imaginable," Potok said in an interview. "The fact is that white nationalists are mobilizing for Trump whether he likes it or not."

Trump's habit of retweeting messages posted by white supremacists, sharing them with his 6.4 million Twitter followers, hasn't helped matters.  

Like Johnson, Duke framed the GOP primary as a contest between Trump and two people of color, Sens. Marco Rubio (Fla.) and Ted Cruz (Texas). “Voting for these people, voting against Donald Trump at this point is really treason to your heritage,” Duke said Wednesday. And while he doesn't agree with everything Trump says, he told listeners, "I do support his candidacy, and I support voting for him as a strategic action. I hope he does everything we hope he will do.”

Potok said Duke's backing carries a lot of weight in white supremacist circles. "David Duke is the most important self described white nationalist intellectual out there today, and what he says is still very influential."

The Huffington Post reached out to Trump's campaign for a response to the David Duke comments, and will update this post if they provide one.

On white nationalist websites, analysts are portraying Trump's candidacy as a rebellion by white supremacists against the mainstream conservative movement. As a writer calling himself Gregory Hood recently wrote in the national Raddix Journal, "the conservative movement is trying to keep its White serfs trapped on the conservative planation. They know if Trumpian nationalism triumphs, a more authentic form of White Identity politics can’t be far behind." 

This isn't the first time white supremacists have seized on Trump's candidacy. In December, Rachel Pendergraft, the national organizer for the Knights Party, a Ku Klux Klan affiliate, said Trump's bid for the White House had opened up new ways for her group to recruit like-minded people.

“One of the things that our organization really stresses with our membership is we want them to educate themselves on issues, but we also want them to be able to learn how to open up a conversation with other people,” Pendergraft told The Washington Post. Trump, she said, was a perfect conversation starter for people to begin talking about issues like immigration and demographic changes underway in America.

But as the Republican race moves into states where Jim Crow segregation was the law of the land for more than a century, the influence of overt racism and the white nationalist movement, combined with some of Trump's rhetoric, could have the more subtle effect of making it seem more acceptable to hold aggressively anti-immigrant and xenophobic views.

"With Trump, white supremacists understand that he's not exactly a white nationalist, like them, but they applaud his hard right positions on matters that are important to them," said Potok. "From their point of view, it's almost better that he's not a full on white nationalist, because now he has a better chance at winning a major office."

To many voters, the GOP nominating contest increasingly looks like a three-way race between two Hispanic men and a white man, leaving little doubt as to which candidate is most likely to win the pro-white vote.

"White supremacists are beside themselves with joy," Potok added. 

Editor's note: Donald Trump is a serial liarrampant xenophobe,racist,misogynist,birther and bully who has repeatedly pledged to ban all Muslims -- 1.6 billion members of an entire religion -- from entering the U.S.


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Wow Bluedog - I had no idea that you felt such a close kinship with the KKK.
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Wow Bluedog - I had no idea that you felt such a close kinship with the KKK.


Really? Bulldogs bigotry is on display almost every day in this forum.
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How do you spell hypocrite?  T-R-U-M-P !!  And you were saying Trump would be great for jobs and tough on immigration???


Donald Trump Turned Down 94.4 Percent of American Job Applicants, Applied for Hundreds of ‘H’ Visas Instead

by Charles C. W. Cooke February 25, 2016 10:13 AM @charlescwcooke

Surprise! Donald Trump is a rank hypocrite on immigration. Per the New York Times:

Donald J. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach describes itself as “one of the most highly regarded private clubs in the world,” and it is not just the very-well-to-do who want to get in.

Since 2010, nearly 300 United States residents have applied or been referred for jobs as waiters, waitresses, cooks and housekeepers there. But according to federal records, only 17 have been hired.

In all but a handful of cases, Mar-a-Lago sought to fill the jobs with hundreds of foreign guest workers from Romania and other countries.

In his quest for the Republican presidential nomination, Mr. Trump has stoked his crowds by promising to bring back jobs that have been snatched by illegal immigrants or outsourced by corporations, and voters worried about immigration have been his strongest backers.

But he has also pursued more than 500 visas for foreign workers at Mar-a-Lago since 2010, according to the United States Department of Labor, while hundreds of domestic applicants failed to get the same jobs.

Or, put another way, Trump has deliberately chosen to hire foreign workers to fill those jobs that “Americans just won’t do.” 17 out of 300? That’s 5.6 percent. 17 out of 500? That’s 3.4 percent. Bad!

So what’s Trump’s excuse? That’s he’s a businessman and that these are the realities on the ground? That, I’m afraid, won’t wash. When Disney behaved like this, there was a loud and sustained outcry from . . . well, no less than Donald Trump himself. In an interview with Breitbart, Trump argued that Disney should be forced to rehire any Americans it had overlooked or replaced. Trump also said this:

If I am President, I will not issue any H-1B visas to companies that replace American workers and my Department of Justice will pursue action against them.

And he offered this critique of expanding the “H” program: It would allow any company in America to replace any worker with cheaper foreign labor. It legalizes job theft. It gives companies the legal right to pass over Americans, displace Americans, or directly replace Americans for good-paying middle class jobs.

This attitude is is a popular one among Trump’s supporters. Indeed, Breitbart’s emissary to the Trump campaign, Matthew Boyle, has argued that “what Disney did — with the help of the U.S. government’s lax H1B immigration and visa policies — was awful.” Moreover, he has praised Trump for supposedly standing against it:

This is perhaps one of the most under-discussed issues in the 2016 GOP presidential primary election. Frontrunner Donald Trump’s immigration reform plan details exactly how he would fix this problem if he’s elected president.

He wants to “increase” the “prevailing wage for H-1Bs,” one subsection of his plan lays out.

Trump also wants a “requirement to hire American workers first.”

And yet, by Trump’s own logic, the H-2B program that he so heavily used is even more egregious than the H-1Bs system that Disney took advantage of. Why? Well, because unlike H-1Bs — which can in theory be used to recruit skilled workers — H-2Bs are aimed directly at the bottom of the economic ladder. Here’s the Times again:

“You almost have them as indentured servants,” said Danny Fontenot, director of the hospitality program at Palm Beach State College. “And they affect everyone else’s wages. You can make a lot of money by never having to give your employees raises.”

Greg Schell, a lawyer in Palm Beach County who has helped foreign guest workers sue employers over labor violations, said companies frequently made little effort to find local employees before applying for visas.

“I have seen no demonstrated need to import guest workers for the hospitality industry,” Mr. Schell said. “Employers who want to find American workers find them.”

And clearly, Trump didn’t want to find them. Which means that, in his own words, he is guilty of gaming the system to “replace any worker with cheaper foreign labor”; he is guilty of “job theft”; and he is guilty of indulging the “legal right to pass over Americans, displace Americans, or directly replace Americans for good-paying middle class jobs.

”Slamming Disney for its use of H-1Bs, Matthew Boyle also proposed that the “scandal doesn’t seem to be going away, and only appears to be intensifying as the electoral season progresses.” What, one wonders, must Boyle then think of Trump? If we are to judge a man by his actions and not by his rhetoric — as I’m told we should — then Trump comes up short, no? When 300 hardworking Americans tried to land a job at his resort, Trump kicked them to the curb and applied instead for 500 “H” visas.

It’s “election season” now, so I await the extensive Breitbart denunciation with bated, skeptical breath. In the meantime, the good people of America should realize that they’re being duped by a bad man who doesn’t give a hoot about anybody other than himself.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/431908/donald-trump-immigration-hypocrite-who-ignores-american-workers

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Trump is against white genocide
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Really? Bulldogs bigotry is on display almost every day in this forum.


But I didn't suspect that he owned a hood until now.
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Al Sharpton gave everyone  great reason to support Trump.

Sharpton said he would leave the country if Trump wins the general. 

Mike, you in now? [smile]
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The Rev. Al Sharpton still hasn’t endorsed a candidate in the presidential election. But on Thursday, he was very clear whom he doesn’t want sitting in the White House next year.

“If Donald Trump is the nominee … I’m also reserving my ticket to get out of here if he wins. Only because he’d probably have me deported anyhow,” Sharpton said to laughs and applause at a Center for American Progress Action Fund event.


From "the Right scoop" editor---

What is with these opponents of Trump who have NO IDEA that they’re helping his cause when they make statements like this? Idiots. Trump is gonna LOVE this quote, and laugh at Sharpton at his rallies. His followers will absolutely LOVE it. Are these pendejos trying to get him elected?!?

Maybe he IS trying to help him. After all, he's the only one that understands sharpton,  according to trump's own words!!

[trump_sharpton] 



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I am not understanding the KKK post.  Trump would not be able to pick who says that they endorse him and you'd better bet that the liberal media couldn't wait to publish this trash.  The Huffington Post is not real journalism and note the last sentence where White states her opinion.  So, again, why post that hate trash?  It isn't like the New Black Panther Party standing at polling places with batons in hand intimidating the electorate. 
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Just in the last 16 years I have heard several celebs and public figures state they would leave the country if Bush or obama were elected. None of them left.
Alec Baldwin and elton john didn't leave after Bush was elected.
Ted Nugent is still here after obama took office. 
Rush Limbaugh said he would leave for canada if obamacare passed.
Some republicans threatened to move to australia if obama won against romney. Still here. Online they got the message that australia has universal healthcare, no guns allowed, pro gay with openly gay politicians, pro choice, teaches evolution in schools and female prime minister is unmarried atheist. Australia and canada are not where you go to run from libs and hold on to guns.
Same with whoopi threatening every 4 years to leave if mcain, romney, and now trump get elected. Bye. But she isn't going anywhere because like all the other celebs she depends on cashflow as a usa celeb and cannot make a fraction of that in another country...plus nomatter who wins celebs win...even if they are against that person since they can spend 4 to 8 years griping about them and gathering an audience.


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FTR, companies request far more visas than they actually want because they are allocated by a lottery and there is no cost to request more - it's simply a strategy to improve their chances of getting the number they want. Remember this when you hear/read about large numbers of requests. Charging a substantial fee for each visa requested would curtail the exaggerated requests and could be used to discourage the practice of filling positions with imported labor altogether.

Similarly, the H-1B visas are attractive to employers because they cap compensation below market. Instead, they should put minimums on compensation above the market to encourage hiring Americans.
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So, again, why post that hate trash?


Coach, there are some slanderers on this board......The way they treat Dewey is very telling about how they think.......They hate and they slander....... 
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How do you spell hypocrite?  T-R-U-M-P !!  And you were saying Trump would be great for jobs and tough on immigration???


Donald Trump Turned Down 94.4 Percent of American Job Applicants, Applied for Hundreds of ‘H’ Visas Instead

by Charles C. W. Cooke February 25, 2016 10:13 AM @charlescwcooke

Surprise! Donald Trump is a rank hypocrite on immigration. Per the New York Times:

Donald J. Trump’s Mar-a-Lago Club in Palm Beach describes itself as “one of the most highly regarded private clubs in the world,” and it is not just the very-well-to-do who want to get in.

Since 2010, nearly 300 United States residents have applied or been referred for jobs as waiters, waitresses, cooks and housekeepers there. But according to federal records, only 17 have been hired.

In all but a handful of cases, Mar-a-Lago sought to fill the jobs with hundreds of foreign guest workers from Romania and other countries.

In his quest for the Republican presidential nomination, Mr. Trump has stoked his crowds by promising to bring back jobs that have been snatched by illegal immigrants or outsourced by corporations, and voters worried about immigration have been his strongest backers.

But he has also pursued more than 500 visas for foreign workers at Mar-a-Lago since 2010, according to the United States Department of Labor, while hundreds of domestic applicants failed to get the same jobs.

Or, put another way, Trump has deliberately chosen to hire foreign workers to fill those jobs that “Americans just won’t do.” 17 out of 300? That’s 5.6 percent. 17 out of 500? That’s 3.4 percent. Bad!

So what’s Trump’s excuse? That’s he’s a businessman and that these are the realities on the ground? That, I’m afraid, won’t wash. When Disney behaved like this, there was a loud and sustained outcry from . . . well, no less than Donald Trump himself. In an interview with Breitbart, Trump argued that Disney should be forced to rehire any Americans it had overlooked or replaced. Trump also said this:

If I am President, I will not issue any H-1B visas to companies that replace American workers and my Department of Justice will pursue action against them.

And he offered this critique of expanding the “H” program: It would allow any company in America to replace any worker with cheaper foreign labor. It legalizes job theft. It gives companies the legal right to pass over Americans, displace Americans, or directly replace Americans for good-paying middle class jobs.

This attitude is is a popular one among Trump’s supporters. Indeed, Breitbart’s emissary to the Trump campaign, Matthew Boyle, has argued that “what Disney did — with the help of the U.S. government’s lax H1B immigration and visa policies — was awful.” Moreover, he has praised Trump for supposedly standing against it:

This is perhaps one of the most under-discussed issues in the 2016 GOP presidential primary election. Frontrunner Donald Trump’s immigration reform plan details exactly how he would fix this problem if he’s elected president.

He wants to “increase” the “prevailing wage for H-1Bs,” one subsection of his plan lays out.

Trump also wants a “requirement to hire American workers first.”

And yet, by Trump’s own logic, the H-2B program that he so heavily used is even more egregious than the H-1Bs system that Disney took advantage of. Why? Well, because unlike H-1Bs — which can in theory be used to recruit skilled workers — H-2Bs are aimed directly at the bottom of the economic ladder. Here’s the Times again:

“You almost have them as indentured servants,” said Danny Fontenot, director of the hospitality program at Palm Beach State College. “And they affect everyone else’s wages. You can make a lot of money by never having to give your employees raises.”

Greg Schell, a lawyer in Palm Beach County who has helped foreign guest workers sue employers over labor violations, said companies frequently made little effort to find local employees before applying for visas.

“I have seen no demonstrated need to import guest workers for the hospitality industry,” Mr. Schell said. “Employers who want to find American workers find them.”

And clearly, Trump didn’t want to find them. Which means that, in his own words, he is guilty of gaming the system to “replace any worker with cheaper foreign labor”; he is guilty of “job theft”; and he is guilty of indulging the “legal right to pass over Americans, displace Americans, or directly replace Americans for good-paying middle class jobs.

”Slamming Disney for its use of H-1Bs, Matthew Boyle also proposed that the “scandal doesn’t seem to be going away, and only appears to be intensifying as the electoral season progresses.” What, one wonders, must Boyle then think of Trump? If we are to judge a man by his actions and not by his rhetoric — as I’m told we should — then Trump comes up short, no? When 300 hardworking Americans tried to land a job at his resort, Trump kicked them to the curb and applied instead for 500 “H” visas.

It’s “election season” now, so I await the extensive Breitbart denunciation with bated, skeptical breath. In the meantime, the good people of America should realize that they’re being duped by a bad man who doesn’t give a hoot about anybody other than himself.

Read more at: http://www.nationalreview.com/corner/431908/donald-trump-immigration-hypocrite-who-ignores-american-workers


You and dewy better get to work, keep digging, keep digging.  The clock is ticking and the inevitable looks inevitable.  Of course Trump has skeletons in his closet but they're all dead.

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I hate those white supremacist aholes as much as I can.  In fact, when I was in HS, me and a few friends broke up a Klan by firing roman candles into them from some nearby woods, but I digress.

That article by the HUff PO was full of all sorts of generalizations that I can't stomach.  It makes it sound as though all Southerners are racist, which I know is the way the liberal elitists view us.  That is far, far, from true, and I for one really resent it.

blue - Dewey brings criticism upon himself, but this is not the thread for it.  I have noticed that you have started to refer to Cruz and Rubio as the Two Cubans, which is mildly offensive.
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And there you have it.  Bluedog spends months calling all of us clueless and as soon as someone hits a nerve he starts crying about slander.  Wow.
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It's not slander if it's the truth, just ask donnie trump.  I get my ques from donnie.  A leader in a presidential campaign can act without restraints, we the people sure can.  We have such great leaders in this country.  Look at the way curious george talks about white people.
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"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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I have noticed that you have started to refer to Cruz and Rubio as the Two Cubans, which is mildly offensive.


But, Mike, they are of cuban descent......Not offensive at all.....
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But, Mike, they are of cuban descent......Not offensive at all.....


I think we both know that you mean in a derogatory way.  Just call them wetbacks or something, and be done with it.

The Trump Way.

ps - my best friend in HS was similar to Rubio.  Castro gave them hours to leave, with nothing but the clothes they were wearing.  His grandfather was held as a political prisoner, and was released about 10 years after they got here.

I spoke Spanish to his older family members (like his grandparents), because they struggled with English.

I will tell you this - you never met prouder Americans.
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But I didn't suspect that he owned a hood until now.


Anyone posting this kind of slander is not worth conversing with.......
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  Just call them wetbacks or something,.........


More slander......You've never heard me utter the word, yet, you throw it out there.....Pitiful!

Mike, your attempt to out-pride me and make yourself look righteous doesn't play so well!!

I've been places and done things you can only sit around and wonder about......So what.....
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blue - Dewey brings criticism upon himself, but this is not the thread for it. 


Yes, because I'm a Democrat with an opinion and I'm not afraid to express it.  Very low bar around here.
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Mike, your attempt to out-pride me and make yourself look righteous doesn't play so well!! 


I am sure that I have no idea what this means.
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Yes, because I'm a Democrat with an opinion and I'm not afraid to express it.  Very low bar around here.


Stay Gold Pony Boy
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Dewey, there's more than just a low bar going on around here........It's much worse than just that!
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Yes, because I'm a Democrat with an opinion and I'm not afraid to express it.  Very low bar around here.


Dewey, this thread should put an end to these histrionics.  Regular posters here have as much disgust for Bluedog as the do for you.  Your posting styles are very similar, and neither of you are liked.  Do we all dislike Blue because he is a democrat?  No, just like being a democrat has nothing to do with us not liking you and this thread is the proof.
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I like bluedog but not dewy.  They are surely cut from different cloth
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The attempt to throw words out and try to make 'em stick to someone who never would even think about them is despicable and nothing short of slander........

I've never presented any illusion about my dislike of both parties.....I'm upfront about it and say it often......That rubs some hard-core Republicans the wrong way and I don't care........

I've never cared for the way Dewey is treated on here by some of you......I see hate spewed his way far too often......It comes my way, too, but, never as bad as Dewey sees it.......

Until today.......Slander and hate has shown up on here this afternoon by several posters......They have become very open with their hate and slander.......It's never good to associate with such people.......Talk long enough and your mouth will show your heart!
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"The attempt to throw words out and try to make 'em stick to someone who never would even think about them is despicable and nothing short of slander........"

Yeah sorta like your candidate for president, pass the ganja.  Cruz isn't a liar, Megyn wasn't bleeding, Carson is a great surgeon and not a psycho, Ted is a Christian and Carly's face wasn't deformed.

#byefelicia

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bluedog, I hope your boy made it tonight.  Let me go check if he found Texas
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"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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He (Trump) made it.  He is the king of the non-answer.
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