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HenryLouisAaron

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<< I realize the fact that the haven't put a team with just 3 such wins in the top 16 before. But that is a ridiculous reliance on a single "secret rule". Missouri ended up #24 so Arizona barely got a 4th top 25 win. Oklahoma State ended up #27, so Baylor barely missed out on a 4th top 25 win. Makes no sense. >> (sMurph)


I could not agree more.  Preach it, brother...
HenryLouisAaron

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<< Had Mizzou also stayed out of top 25 rpi, the committee would have had zero problems not putting Az as hosts and sent them packing. >> (janie)


So... under the circumstances listed above - you would have had NO problem with the committee...
if they had put Arizona outside the top 16 seeded teams.. even though they were the #12 team in RPI..?
HenryLouisAaron

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<< No disrespect to Baylor, but NOBODY expected them to win their regional, let alone come in our house and leave Arizona home.  I continued to hear that JMU was going to sweep the Baylor regional.  Several fans had their hotels, cars & flights locked in.  I'll admit, I was one that looked past Baylor on our way to the WCWS.  I was left licking my wounds.  It took a lot for them to get there. >> (Not2day)

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Sorry... but "NOBODY" just is not correct.

You're telling me that the Baylor coaches, players, parents and fans  didn't expect them to win..?

I'm an Oklahoma fan...  and it did not surprise me when Baylor beat Arizona.
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Originally Posted by Not2day
No disrespect to Baylor, but NOBODY expected them to win their regional,  I was one that looked past Baylor on our way to the WCWS.
 That says more about your narrow view than about Baylor or their chances last year. You apparently were not aware of the multiple years in which Baylor went to the WCWS recently (within the past 10 years).   Or that they usually have average hitting, but make up for that with outstanding pitching and solid defense.  You just weren't aware that they are a quality program, and you were in a small minority with regard to your view of the regional.

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MOJOERASER

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Baylor has beeen a consistent softball program for people to believe they can’t win at foolish. It’s possible they could make it out of their regional because they have the same pitcher as last year. Their bats are not as good and team speed is down a bit. I think the new slipper rule hurt Baylor the worst of all teams.
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Originally Posted by MOJOERASER
Baylor has beeen a consistent softball program for people to believe they can’t win at foolish. It’s possible they could make it out of their regional because they have the same pitcher as last year. Their bats are not as good and team speed is down a bit. I think the new slipper rule hurt Baylor the worst of all teams.


Quick housekeeping, Kelsee Selman carried that team last year, and she is not back.
HenryLouisAaron

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<< Curious as an Oklahoma fan, what did you see different about Baylor at Big XII Championships and the conference sweep. >> (Not2day)


The three game conference sweep:
5-0  Paige Parker goes all 7 innings and pitches a 2 hit shutout.
9-0  Mariah Lopez 3 IP, Paige Parker 2 IP... in a five inning run rule shutout.
4-1  Paige Parker 4 IP, Paige Lowary 3 IP... allowing just one run to score.

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The conference championship game:  Oklahoma wins 6-4.
Oklahoma scored 18 runs in the three game sweep for an average of 6 runs scored per game. And they scored 6 runs in the last game.
The main difference between the last Baylor game and the others - was that Baylor scored more runs.

Why did that happen?  The Sooners were ahead 5-1 through 5 innings... and the game looked pretty much like all the others.
But then Baylor scored 3 runs in the 6th inning to make it a close game (5-4 after the top of the 6th).
What was different..? Why did Baylor score 3 runs in one inning off the Sooner pitching staff..?
PG decided to start Paige Lowary - and then left her in to pitch the entire game.
This was the ONLY time all year that Lowary was asked to pitch a full 7 innings. She hadn't come close to that many IP in a game all season.
So... I'd say two things were the main contributing factors...

1. Lowary was asked to go longer than she was used to - and so they got to see her for an extended period of time in one game.
2. They had also seen Lowary for three IP in their last game. So that was ten innings of hitting against her over their last two games.

It is quite possible that Lowary tired as she went into the 6th inning (maybe physically, maybe mentally, or maybe both). 
Lowary had two at bats in that 6th inning where she was ahead in the count - and then then gave up a key hit. She was ahead of Walker (a great hitter) 0-2, but then gave her something a bit too good - and she smacked it into the right center gap for a run scoring triple. And their third run of the inning scored when Lowary was ahead of Kettler (a not so good hitter) 1-2, and she hit a ball back up the middle for an RBI single.

If PG had gone to Parker (or Lopez or even Conrad) after Lowary had thrown for the first 4 or 5 innings... the score might have been 6-1. 
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