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CoachZ

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At zoom as well. My understanding is that Smith is far from a dead cert at Minnesota. All family has moved away from the area at this point. She is still looking around from what I hear.
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Learn the facts on Conrad before your start spurting off at the mouth. There are reasons they are going seperate ways and well most of its just a pitcher being a pitcher.
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LOL....lotta 'pitchers being pitchers' up there
tmz

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Is Smith going back home to Minnesota?


Not going to happen! Look in the state of Texas.
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https://www.triplecrownsports.com/Classic/EventResults/event_results2.asp?tournyid=7533
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The lsu pitcher is my guess.

I'm thinking they are going to get Sydney Smith. She is a Minnesota native who has announce (and confirmed) That she will be leaving the LSU pitching staff

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Taryn Atlee from Rutgers to Washington
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Learn the facts on Conrad before your start spurting off at the mouth. There are reasons they are going seperate ways and well most of its just a pitcher being a pitcher.

Pretty comfortable with my grasp on the facts regarding her transfer. Mizzou is a mess that has gotten worse with the addition of Lalonde as a "pitching coach". He may be the best hitting coach on the planet, but a pitching coach, he ain't. They spent the last month of season trying to jump over a broomstick in the bullpen to learn how to crow hop.
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Also, smith is not a done deal at ok state or Baylor. She still has at least one more visit on the docket that I know of.
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Also, smith is not a done deal at ok state or Baylor. She still has at least one more visit on the docket that I know of.


No matter where she ends up I hope it is a place where she can make a bigger impact. It would be kinda funny to watch her play with the other pitcher that left LSU because they just kept using Hoover and Walljasper

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I saw that Taryn Atlee from Rutgers has transferred to Washington. Great player and  best of luck!
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I saw that Taryn Atlee from Rutgers has transferred to Washington. Great player and  best of luck!


Wow Rutgers can't even keep their best player happy after one season. How can they expect to get out of the Big 10 basement?
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Hopefully they don't release her
3leftturns

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I am still amazed that O'Toole was forced to sit out a year
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Wow Rutgers can't even keep their best player happy after one season. How can they expect to get out of the Big 10 basement?


She was happy but travel ball coach/agent (not hers) wanted to curry favor with UW & other big time schools so he figured he'd make a few calls and see who might be interested in what she did in the Big 10 after not wanting her out of travel ball and THEN called her to tell her if she wanted to transfer he had already talked to coaches who wanted her.

These travel ball coaches are now turning into agents, running not only their own kids but kids they don't even coach!  i get if a kid is truly not happy or not playing and wants to transfer go ahead and call your old coach and let them work the back channels.  But this is the 2nd transfer I heard about this week that was NOT instigated by the player but by a 3rd party travel ball coach looking to help out a "friend" and finding players doing well at other schools and starting the conversations.  It's really sad on both the travel ball coaches position - just slimy - and the coach taking the kid....if you didn't like her out of high school shame on you! 

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She was happy but travel ball coach/agent (not hers) wanted to curry favor with UW & other big time schools so he figured he'd make a few calls and see who might be interested in what she did in the Big 10 after not wanting her out of travel ball and THEN called her to tell her if she wanted to transfer he had already talked to coaches who wanted her.

These travel ball coaches are now turning into agents, running not only their own kids but kids they don't even coach!  i get if a kid is truly not happy or not playing and wants to transfer go ahead and call your old coach and let them work the back channels.  But this is the 2nd transfer I heard about this week that was NOT instigated by the player but by a 3rd party travel ball coach looking to help out a "friend" and finding players doing well at other schools and starting the conversations.  It's really sad on both the travel ball coaches position - just slimy - and the coach taking the kid....if you didn't like her out of high school shame on you! 



Be interesting if all the non-power coaches started not speaking to the travel ball coaches that poached them after the fact.
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Exactly why softball should go to the baseball model and make kids sit a year.
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The poaching keeps getting worse.  As far as I can tell, it goes all the way down to D2 schools getting poached by lower-level D1s.  In some ways, we would be better off simply getting rid of the recruiting rules and let it be a free-for-all all the time.  As it stands now, coaches with integrity are at a disadvantage.
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Very interesting, since these four-year LOIs, one would imagine, are binding both ways

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LOL....lotta 'pitchers being pitchers' up there


Now that right there is funny...I don't care who you are!
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She was happy but travel ball coach/agent (not hers) wanted to curry favor with UW & other big time schools so he figured he'd make a few calls and see who might be interested in what she did in the Big 10 after not wanting her out of travel ball and THEN called her to tell her if she wanted to transfer he had already talked to coaches who wanted her.

These travel ball coaches are now turning into agents, running not only their own kids but kids they don't even coach!  i get if a kid is truly not happy or not playing and wants to transfer go ahead and call your old coach and let them work the back channels.  But this is the 2nd transfer I heard about this week that was NOT instigated by the player but by a 3rd party travel ball coach looking to help out a "friend" and finding players doing well at other schools and starting the conversations.  It's really sad on both the travel ball coaches position - just slimy - and the coach taking the kid....if you didn't like her out of high school shame on you! 



Interesting story. I'm going to have to say though that I would still blame Rutgers for not keeping the kid happy and wanting to continue playing for them. I know it is tempting for a kid to see someone like Washington wanting them through 3rd parties.  But she wouldn't have left if she was loving her experience at Rutgers?

I'm all for the free movement of kids if they decide they don't want to be where they are at currently. Let them transfer and not sit out. If you don't like your job you can quit and go work elsewhere.

I don't think any coach wants a kid that isn't committed to their program and teammates. Let 'em go be happy elsewhere.

I also think it is a situation that should be dealt with in proper manners by the student athletes too. Some have told their coaches they were in for the next year at year end meetings and then a month or two later asked for a release. That's messed up. At least if you tell a coach you're out at the end of year meeting a coach can try to find another person to replace you on the roster. Very hard toward the end of the summer.
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If this continues to be an issue, I don't have a problem with handling it like they do baseball with a mandatory one year sitting out or transfer to a JUCO to play.
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Interesting story. I'm going to have to say though that I would still blame Rutgers for not keeping the kid happy and wanting to continue playing for them. I know it is tempting for a kid to see someone like Washington wanting them through 3rd parties.  But she wouldn't have left if she was loving her experience at Rutgers?

I'm all for the free movement of kids if they decide they don't want to be where they are at currently. Let them transfer and not sit out. If you don't like your job you can quit and go work elsewhere.

I don't think any coach wants a kid that isn't committed to their program and teammates. Let 'em go be happy elsewhere.

I also think it is a situation that should be dealt with in proper manners by the student athletes too. Some have told their coaches they were in for the next year at year end meetings and then a month or two later asked for a release. That's messed up. At least if you tell a coach you're out at the end of year meeting a coach can try to find another person to replace you on the roster. Very hard toward the end of the summer.


So then you are ok with coaches cutting kids at the end of the year as well?
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Now that right there is funny...I don't care who you are!

+1
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So then you are ok with coaches cutting kids at the end of the year as well?


Not really. A coach can get another job without sitting out a year.

I just am in the camp that the NCAA takes in big money overall and then wants to control the movement and rights of free labor.

I think a coach should only cut a kid for rules violations.
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Alyssa Dalton from OU (sort of) to ULL
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It's been a bunch of years mostly lurking among the largely contentious so...

Bill Bowling transfer from
http://robocoach.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=10114

to
http://robocoach.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=24783

There's levity there if you don't mind. 

See y'all later.
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It's been a bunch of years mostly lurking among the largely contentious so...

Bill Bowling transfer from
http://robocoach.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=10114

to
http://robocoach.websitetoolbox.com/?forum=24783

There's levity there if you don't mind. 

See y'all later.



Ahhh, Mr Bowling, I met Mrs Bowling @ the Ucla series, what a nice lady, and I see Nancy got her first start with the Chinese team!
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Not really. A coach can get another job without sitting out a year.

I just am in the camp that the NCAA takes in big money overall and then wants to control the movement and rights of free labor.

I think a coach should only cut a kid for rules violations.


Lol - you watch too much ESPN.

So in your world, a kid, who UW saw countless times, can go to Rutgers, get coached up and improve and then transfer to UW without sitting out. But the same coach, if a player underperforms, isn't allowed to cut their money.

makes total sense
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I have to say, Sydney Smith to OK State would be something I would like to see. They've been on the verge of getting back to the Supers. She could do it
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