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UTA's Mariah Denson is transferring to Northwestern State Louisiana via her twitter.
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AUTUMN GILLESPIE from UCF to Ole Miss.
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Parker Conrad from Missouri to Oklahoma
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Parker Conrad from Missouri to Oklahoma

Ehren setting up a farm system for the Sooners?
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Looks like it. So Conrad saw limited innings as a Freshman, understandable. She's going to OK where she will most likely sit behind Lowary & Parker for full year. I would think she'd go someplace where the program could use her immediatley. Sitting for 2 full years, kid liable to grow cobwebs. Plus, they got recruits coming in both years. Thoughts
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Looks like it. So Conrad saw limited innings as a Freshman, understandable. She's going to OK where she will most likely sit behind Lowary & Parker for full year. I would think she'd go someplace where the program could use her immediatley. Sitting for 2 full years, kid liable to grow cobwebs. Plus, they got recruits coming in both years. Thoughts


Dumb move.
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Unless she is one of those who seem to be catching on to the wait your turn and win a natty even if you only pitch a year or two mentality?  Plus Lopez is there too and as was said, top pitching recruits coming in.  I mean Oklahoma is not the only stop to the top.  Patty apparently is theeee king now and for the forseeable future.[smile]
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Looks like it. So Conrad saw limited innings as a Freshman, understandable. She's going to OK where she will most likely sit behind Lowary & Parker for full year. I would think she'd go someplace where the program could use her immediatley. Sitting for 2 full years, kid liable to grow cobwebs. Plus, they got recruits coming in both years. Thoughts

They could redshirt her this year and let parker and lowary do most of the pitching and let her get experience with Lombardi.

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She must have seen Lopez pitch and said, I'm better. Because Vestal is a crackerjack.
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She must have seen Lopez pitch and said, I'm better. Because Vestal is a cracker jack.



Cracker jack?  Meaning a cheap facsimile or a real prize?
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Cracker jack?  Meaning a cheap facsimile or a real prize?

Glad i wasn't the only one confused by that!!!

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Sorry ... it should be one word
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http://www.dictionary.com/browse/crackerjack
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She must have seen Lopez pitch and said, I'm better. Because Vestal is a crackerjack.

Agreed about Vestal! Watched her pitch in the PGF championship game and was floored by the movement she was getting. Excited to see what she can do at OU.

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She must have seen Lopez pitch and said, I'm better. Because Vestal is a crackerjack.


Conrad got similar hype coming out of high school/travel that Vestal is getting. Conrad more of a power pitcher but Vestal will be interesting to watch make that transition. If Conrad doesn't get to work, she could be one of those pretty good ones to never get the chance to make an impact. Also, if Gasso not careful, she will end up with a very crowed bullpen & alot of unhappy pitchers.
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I will make an assumption.  I saw a remark that Conrad didn't become the ace of the staff that they had projected as a freshman.  I also see that she permitted a lot  of hits and a very high number of walks.  Supposedly, she has better than average power, 70 mph range.  Since OU knew what to do with Paige Lowary to get her power up and develop a sense of control, I assume that they have seen something similar with Conrad.  Otherwise, with the pitchers coming in and those available, there is no place for Conrad.  Seems a waste to bring in someone that has no function.
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Makes one wonder if Gasso has a feeling about one of her existing pitchers or incoming ones
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Vestal is a good pitcher but when she gets hit she gets hit hard. I don't really know if she'll make a big impact when she steps on campus in the fall of 2018 for the 2019 season. In the state playoffs she hasn't taken her team to the final four state tournament which I find something shocking to see considering she is the #1 recruit for the 2018 class
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So, could the Conrad pick up be a sort of coach's foreshadowing??
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Conrad got similar hype coming out of high school/travel that Vestal is getting. Conrad more of a power pitcher but Vestal will be interesting to watch make that transition. If Conrad doesn't get to work, she could be one of those pretty good ones to never get the chance to make an impact. Also, if Gasso not careful, she will end up with a very crowed bullpen & alot of unhappy pitchers.
Gonna disagree with you somewhat strenuously here.

Conrad, while having all the potential in the world, is not in the same recruitment realm as Vestal.

I think she picked Mizzou over FAU and BC... though I may be off there.

I have no doubt that her WHP will plummet to excellent levels in Norman, but Vestal is a whole different deal as a recruit.
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Vestal is a good pitcher but when she gets hit she gets hit hard. I don't really know if she'll make a big impact when she steps on campus in the fall of 2018 for the 2019 season. In the state playoffs she hasn't taken her team to the final four state tournament which I find something shocking to see considering she is the #1 recruit for the 2018 class
Interesting insight.

And, I do agree that your FLOsoftball ranking means zilch until you get out there against a T25 team in college.

I thought Johanna Grauer would be a UCLA great and was bummed when I first heard she was going to Westwood.

Oregon, Oklahoma, Florida -- among a small group -- are on the top shelf of knowing how to continually recruit and develop talent in the circle. Can't imagine Vestal won't be a standout.

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Lowary at MU vs Lowrary OU.
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Vestal did that a team to the national championships last summer, replacing current a current OU freshman in the process (not Lopez).  But, Vestal is still young and lanky.  She will have a lot to learn, just to control her height.  Power will come from that.  But, Vestal is the only pitcher OU has in its 2017 or 2018 classes.  Vestal will arrive as Lowary and Parker leave. So, it is Vestal, Lopez, and Mendes. But, you don't want to use a starting center fielder as a pitcher if you can avoid it.  Unless Mendes is a sensational pitcher, you take her out of the consistent part of the rotation to use in center.  So, that leaves  Lopez and Vestal, not enough.
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Gave her time off. Mentally rehabilitated her.

And fixed her profligate BBs.

I have scoffed at Gasso's Lowary Shift, but the more I reflect on it, I believe that that was more a mechanism to lock her down mentally and focus on hitting her spots.

And, THAT Paige Lowary is scary good, and possibly the No. 1 in Norman before she graduates.

No one has had the mile-high ceiling for the Sooners that Lowary has since Ricketts hit the road IMO
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Vestal is a good pitcher but when she gets hit she gets hit hard. I don't really know if she'll make a big impact when she steps on campus in the fall of 2018 for the 2019 season. In the state playoffs she hasn't taken her team to the final four state tournament which I find something shocking to see considering she is the #1 recruit for the 2018 class


I'm glad someone else said it for a change. Ye I've also seen her get hit pretty hard, in any number of events. Not the shutdown type, at least that I've seen. She has changed travel teams so, run support hides a lot of hits. But, if you can't deliver in High School, throwing against below avg kids most of the time, makes you wonder. I agree with 3left though, OK one of those schools who knows how to develop talent. Most likely her career begins better than Conrad's did at MZ
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Vestal did that a team to the national championships last summer, replacing current a current OU freshman in the process (not Lopez).  But, Vestal is still young and lanky.  She will have a lot to learn, just to control her height.  Power will come from that.  But, Vestal is the only pitcher OU has in its 2017 or 2018 classes.  Vestal will arrive as Lowary and Parker leave. So, it is Vestal, Lopez, and Mendes. But, you don't want to use a starting center fielder as a pitcher if you can avoid it.  Unless Mendes is a sensational pitcher, you take her out of the consistent part of the rotation to use in center.  So, that leaves  Lopez and Vestal, not enough.


What about Mel Olmos? she was freshman this year. Played for Ricos Firecrackers. Was she hurt? no mention of her..
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Parker Conrad contacted WA and they looked at her a bit. They decided they were happy with the staff they had with Plain coming in. She doesn't work at 70 more 65/67. BTW: The places she was recruited other than MO were FAU and BC. I wish her luck at OU. 
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Interesting insight.

And, I do agree that your FLOsoftball ranking means zilch until you get out there against a T25 team in college.

I thought Johanna Grauer would be a UCLA great and was bummed when I first heard she was going to Westwood.

Oregon, Oklahoma, Florida -- among a small group -- are on the top shelf of knowing how to continually recruit and develop talent in the circle. Can't imagine Vestal won't be a standout.



They are definitely good at evaluating and bringing in talent. The no-contact rules limit the amount of development that can occur, although there is room for some incremental improvements, for sure. Fundamentally changing mechanics and things like that which you sometimes see tried at places like MO, seem to just screw people up. Casey Stangel, as an example, came to WA in pretty bad shape both from a pitching mechanics and confidence point of view.

I think people believe that there is more development going on than there actually is. Take Megan Kleist from OR. She came more or less baked from having worked with Mike Roberts (pitching coach from UW) since she was 10 or 11. The OR staff has asked her to practice her rise more and get more confident with it which she has done, but she could spin her rise just fine when she arrived. I'm sure she's also taken advantage of the great strength and conditioning program they have at OR but such a program is certainly not unique.  

I think by far the biggest thing is that these programs have consistently been able to draw great talent.   
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Parker Conrad contacted WA and they looked at her a bit. They decided they were happy with the staff they had with Plain coming in. She doesn't work at 70 more 65/67. BTW: The places she was recruited other than MO were FAU and BC. I wish her luck at OU. 



Interesting trio of schools that recruited her, so not a highly recruited pitcher in the first place.  I never heard of her really.
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They are definitely good at evaluating and bringing in talent. The no-contact rules limit the amount of development that can occur, although there is room for some incremental improvements, for sure. Fundamentally changing mechanics and things like that which you sometimes see tried at places like MO, seem to just screw people up. Casey Stangel, as an example, came to WA in pretty bad shape both from a pitching mechanics and confidence point of view.

I think people believe that there is more development going on than there actually is. Take Megan Kleist from OR. She came more or less baked from having worked with Mike Roberts (pitching coach from UW) since she was 10 or 11. The OR staff has asked her to practice her rise more and get more confident with it which she has done, but she could spin her rise just fine when she arrived. I'm sure she's also taken advantage of the great strength and conditioning program they have at OR but such a program is certainly not unique.  

I think by far the biggest thing is that these programs have consistently been able to draw great talent.   



I believe Roberts and White are friends and it ws Roberts who told Mike White to take a look at Kleist in the first place...at least that's what was told on tv.
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