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CoachZ

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Good point. More than a couple of these incoming Freshman pitchers many are drooling over didn't fair to well @ PGF. 



Are the PGF stats available?
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No stats this year since they didn’t have the scorekeepers working each game
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Shoot, yeah! Sprang didn't fare so well in the SEC, but she'll be a 30-game winner in the B12. *eyeroll*


No one is saying this Mr Dramatic 
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No stats this year since they didn’t have the scorekeepers working each game
WTH.... They aren't making gobs enough of money to execute that?

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WTH.... They aren't making gobs enough of money to execute that?

Idiotic


I’m assuming it’s because if the stats are available people won’t pay for flo softball.
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Maybe she got a better scholarship package from MN than she got from Oregon St.


This was my suspicion. Have no idea if that's the reason, but it could make sense. Think she was originally a Syracuse commit and late add for OSU, not even a ranked recruit, so maybe she didn't get a big scholarship package. She was also part of a recruiting class of 8, and the incoming class has 7, so the money might be tight. She also was benched a few times too which, unless for disciplinary reasons, seemed unforgivable considering she was their best hitter. 

She was great as a freshman and drove in all their big runs in wins over Oregon, ASU, Cal and Utah. Berg said before the season that she could contend to be the school's all-time HR leader, and she was on pace for 2nd all time after her freshman year. Unless she was asked to leave, can't understand how they could let her get away.

Huge loss for the Beavs that puts them closer to Cal below them in conference rather than Arizona above them, and that's not the direction they want to be going. 
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Good point. More than a couple of these incoming Freshman pitchers many are drooling over didn't fair to well @ PGF. 



Since there are no stats available, are you basing how these pitchers fared on wins and losses?
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Since there are no stats available, are you basing how these pitchers fared on wins and losses?


I tried to find some stats but couldn't. I watched the games so short of stats yes. And in the end isn't W/L what matters most anyway?
CoachZ

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As a team, W or L matters most. But W or L is not always indicative of a pitcher’s performance. Our final game, we gave up 7 unearned runs on 1 ball out of the infield. And that one ball was a dying quail over ss.
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As a team, W or L matters most. But W or L is not always indicative of a pitcher’s performance. Our final game, we gave up 7 unearned runs on 1 ball out of the infield. And that one ball was a dying quail over ss.


Absolutely. Pitchers are bound by many things out of their control and unfortunately held accountable to some of those very things. 

I expected some of these kids to look sharper that's all. Maybe part of that is they are all way over-hyped. Come Fall it all becomes irrelevant anyway. 

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What struck me is that none of the pitchers hit 60mph or above except for a few scattered pitches.
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I thought it was obvious the radar was off.  Some of the high/outside pitches were registering in the 30s or 40s.
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I thought it was obvious the radar was off.  Some of the high/outside pitches were registering in the 30s or 40s.


I know saw that too.
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Kristen "Pat" Moore, So. LHP, from DePaul to Washington.

https://gohuskies.com/news/2018/7/17/softball-huskies-add-pat-moore-to-pitching-staff.aspx?path=softball



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So let me get this straight, all of these new Mizzou commits that were once going to Hofstra as Coach Larissa Anderson’s Hofstra recruits are all of SEC caliber? I find that hard to believe. With all the player losses at Mizzou, could these NEW Mizzou/OLD Hofstra commits just be a stop gap to fill a roster until the head coach secures REAL SEC caliber players? Sure looks that way. These recruits should ask themselves why former Hofstra pitcher Sara Cornell chose Alabama over Mizzou where her former coach now resides. Seems to be a lot more to that story. #BewareMizzouFans #BewareOldHofstraRecruits
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Sophomore Bailey Curry from Toledo to the Cajuns.
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Rising sophomore All-American Katie Prebble from Gardner-Webb to UofSo Carolina - Big South Player and Freshman of the Year - 23 HR's 71 RBI's
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Rising sophomore All-American Katie Prebble from Gardner-Webb to UofSo Carolina - Big South Player and Freshman of the Year - 23 HR's 71 RBI's

That's a great pick up for SC.
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Kristen "Pat" Moore, So. LHP, from DePaul to Washington.

https://gohuskies.com/news/2018/7/17/softball-huskies-add-pat-moore-to-pitching-staff.aspx?path=softball





Interesting. Wonder how much time she'll get in the circle? She's got 3 years at UW though...
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Interesting. Wonder how much time she'll get in the circle? She's got 3 years at UW though...


Less than Manti most likely. 
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Less than Manti most likely. 


Sam got 40 innings total last year, 3 in conference. If Moore is any good she'll have some opportunities, if not, she'll sit. I'm sure they'd love to get some innings out of her and rest Alvelo (who'll be a senior, wow!) and Plain for the "big" contests. But, yes, it's a very big jump to the pac12. I know they've really wanted a lefty for a while, too, so we'll see.
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https://twitter.com/HokiesSoftball/status/1025033983111913478

 

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Ok i already forgot, but was Banks committed before...somewhere else?
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Ok i already forgot, but was Banks committed before...somewhere else?


Washington. They verballed her in 7th or 8th grade I forget which. She was a gym rat even then. Her muscles had muscles. That was enough back then but her hitting never developed and she never got much better. I met her once, seemed like a great kid. I hope she has a good experience at Va Tech.
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Washington. They verballed her in 7th or 8th grade I forget which. She was a gym rat even then. Her muscles had muscles. That was enough back then but her hitting never developed and she never got much better. I met her once, seemed like a great kid. I hope she has a good experience at Va Tech.


That's what I thought.
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Sam got 40 innings total last year, 3 in conference. If Moore is any good she'll have some opportunities, if not, she'll sit. I'm sure they'd love to get some innings out of her and rest Alvelo (who'll be a senior, wow!) and Plain for the "big" contests. But, yes, it's a very big jump to the pac12. I know they've really wanted a lefty for a while, too, so we'll see.


True but,  seems every team every year looks to get their studs 'some rest'. Look at UGA this past season. Gray was starting & throwing full games against teams like Winthrop, same with Barnhill. And every other top tier D1 pitcher. Winning overrides everything, even at the expense of getting your stud Freshman recruits badly needed innings. I just don't see Tarr sitting Plain & Alvelo against some chump team so the former Big East Pitcher of the Year can get some innings...wouldn't Manti have gotten some of those innings?

And yes she's a Lefty which is nice. Going from Depaul to Washington...this pickup is a little curious to me. No surprise to see her get any meaningful innings until her Junior year.

it's possible there would be more concern if Washington gets in a position where they NEED to throw her this season. 
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Less than Manti most likely. 


That's where I feel UW (and Tarr's recruiting) is most erratic, in the circle.

Tarr will get that top pitcher (Lawrie, Inglesby, Alvelo) and by their junior year, barely have a #2. Multiple freshman come in and transfer (or completely quit the game) after their freshman year, seen it since 2009. (I think) Bailey Harris and Felicia Harris starting this trend post 2009 natty. It's like she over-recruits players (especially pitchers) that clog her roster that should be pitching at UCSB or Sac State (in conferences less competitive than PAC 12), instead of getting that solid #2 that can go deep in PAC 12 and post season behind their #1. Obvy, Plain is the exception to this. 

Does she expect these 'decent' pitchers to develop in her program when they hardly get any innings?
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That's where I feel UW (and Tarr's recruiting) is most erratic, in the circle.

Tarr will get that top pitcher (Lawrie, Inglesby, Alvelo) and by their junior year, barely have a #2. Multiple freshman come in and transfer (or completely quit the game) after their freshman year, seen it since 2009. (I think) Bailey Harris and Felicia Harris starting this trend post 2009 natty. It's like she over-recruits players (especially pitchers) that clog her roster that should be pitching at UCSB or Sac State (in conferences less competitive than PAC 12), instead of getting that solid #2 that can go deep in PAC 12 and post season behind their #1. Obvy, Plain is the exception to this. 

Does she expect these 'decent' pitchers to develop in her program when they hardly get any innings?


I’ve thought the same thing for years with regards to her number 2 pitcher. The common trend I have noticed is most, not all, were Washington kids that did pretty well below the college level. I think they’re either not developed or they just really aren’t up to par. Maybe she lives in the old days where you can get by with just a number one pitcher?
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Does she expect these 'decent' pitchers to develop in her program when they hardly get any innings?


This...pretty much sums it up for way too many of the Top 50 Programs.
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Tarr will get that top pitcher (Lawrie, Inglesby, Alvelo) and by their junior year, barely have a #2.


Aleah Macon (17-16, 1.93 era) was the #1 starter in 2008, which Lawrie took the season off to pitch for Canada in the Olympics. Apparently, she didn't want to be in Lawrie's shadow when Lawrie came back and transferred to UCLA. She missed out on winning a NC at Washington, but won a NC at UCLA in 2010 (13-1, 1.50 era).

Inglesby's #2 was Bryana Walker.

Alvelo committing early made it more difficult to get another top pitcher in the meantime. Manti was a good prospect who was okay with being a #2, just not a #3.
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