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TylerDurden

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I can imagine here is how the conversation went between the parents of the dead American soldiers:

Parent 1: SOS Clinton told me the attack appeared to be a terrorist style attack that had nothing to do with a video. I really respect her for telling us that.

Parent 2: you know, I think we should try to take SOS Clinton down, let's lie and tell everyone she said that they were going to arrest the guy responsible for the video that caused the attack.

Parent 1: that's a great idea!

Parent 3: let me in on this too - let's make sure we get our stories straight so we can use our the death of our children for political gain.
Dewey

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Hillary may have hugged a family member and said, "You know, we're going to arrest that filmmaker too."  Might have been noting how the Benghazi terrorists, and the filmmaker who offended Muslims elsewhere, had all better be prepared.  Who knows for certain what was said during this moment full of grief.
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Like me, politifact says no way you can call Hillary a liar, (see link below).  Now let's get back to any other questions I've dodged before Tyler answers a few of mine here.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/article/2016/feb/09/what-did-hillary-clinton-tell-families-people-who-/
TylerDurden

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Quote:
Originally Posted by Dewey
Hillary may have hugged a family member and said, "You know, we're going to arrest that filmmaker too."  Might have been noting how the Benghazi terrorists, and the filmmaker who offended Muslims elsewhere, had all better be prepared.  Who knows for certain what was said during this moment full of grief.


I have no reason to not believe the families, what would be their motive to lie?
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Tyler - I have no reason to think any family member "lied".  That said, if I knew any of these families felt about Hillary like some inside here do, my mind could be changed.  In any event, are we going to keep doing this?  Where are the other questions I have dodged?  Please.  You are really dragging this out.
TylerDurden

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Tyler - I have no reason to think any family member "lied".  That said, if I knew any of these families felt about Hillary like some inside here do, my mind could be changed.  In any event, are we going to keep doing this?  Where are the other questions I have dodged?  Please.  You are really dragging this out.


Do you are saying that these families would lie about what Hillary said, and would use their dead children as a platform? That's a pretty bold statement.

You might call it dragging it out, but some of us want to make the readers aware of what kind of CIC Hillary would be.
Dewey

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I'm not saying families lied.  I'm answering your questions over and over and over.  How many times can I say "no"?  You have your answer.  Now please tell me another question I've dodged.  You've been misleading readers about me here for days.  Now please make your case and then we'll turn to you for a few answers.  We've beat the Benghazi question to death and answered a zillion times.  You think Hillary is lying and I don't.  Period.  Now please give us a new example of a question you think I'm afraid of.
TylerDurden

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TylerDurden is running around our forum telling everyone yours truly dodges questions.  This after he completely ignored all of these questions.  Go figure.

The other day, I asked him why the Speaker allowed a vote on a bill that didn't have majority support.  He said "I don't know".  He didn't even try to provide a thought.  I asked him what's the difference about three candidates spinning and misleading the Country in order to win an election and that of a SOS who spins to help win an election, (not that I believe that happened).  Again, no response.  I repeated Kasich's question about businesses serving the gay community.  The question was, what's next, refusing service to the divorced.  Again, Tyler dodges the question.

Now I have no problem if he chooses to skip these questions.  However, I do find anyone who chooses to call out others for refusing to address questions, while they too refuse to do the same, a bit disingenuous.

Finally, he's going to come here and spin the question I've answered several times, one where I say Hillary Clinton did not lie.  I don't know how many times I can answer "no" to his question.  A House investigation has said the same thing.  He's going to say Hillary told her family there was a coordinated attack but she never used the word "coordinated".  He made that word up and he didn't post the email.  She never told her family whether it was planned or spontaneous.  As she did with the Egyptian minister, she did say Al Quaeda like group but the next day learned such group retracted involvement.  The fog of war continues.  The article I linked answered his question but he refused to read it and chose to follow me around instead.  Now here is his opportunity to prove he can answer questions.  Tyler, you are up if you want to share your thoughts on any of the questions in this post.


Dewey - I said when I pinned you on an answer about Hillary and parents. Now that your position is clear I will address your questions. I forgot what bill that was, feel free to remind me and I will be glad to answer.

In my mind it's differed when a sitting SOS spins (intentionally misleads) the nation about the origins of an attack on American soil. The candidates are spinning their positions on what they might do, the other is misleading about an attack.

My position on businesses serving individuals has not changed, I'll repeat it again for you. I believe businesses have the right to refuse service to anyone.

If I missed any please let me know.
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I see no difference in politicians spinning to win an election.  I think others only see a difference if it's a Democrat.  In any event, we can clearly see these GOP candidates are misleading the American people by saying one is going to tear up the 2nd amendment, etc., while we can only speculate, (and be shown to be without standing by Congressional investigations and politifact), about Hillary supposedly misleading.

The bill in question was a bill requiring Obama to withdraw all troops from Iraq within 30 days.  GOP was against but Speaker allowed bill to continue for a vote.  Why?
http://www.rawstory.com/2015/06/house-defeats-bill-that-would-have-required-us-withdrawal-from-iraq-and-syria-within-30-days/

Finally, is there any other question you think I've dodged?  If so, please list it now.  After that, I'd like you to take on the 15 questions in post #1.  If you had to answer as a Presidential candidate, what would you say?
TylerDurden

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I addressed the difference and it had nothing to do with political leanings, and to insinuate such is not a truthful statement. One is a sitting SOS and was dealing with an attack on American soil, whereas the others are giving opinions on what they would do as President. Kind of like the difference in an actual court case and one of your hypothetical conversations.

Oh, that bill. I have no idea why Boehner brought that bill up for a vote. Sorry i can't give you more.

I'm not going to answer 15 questions. Pair it down to 5-6 and I'll give it a shot.
TylerDurden

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Seems like Dewey isn't the only one that doesn't want Benghazi brought up...

http://www.conservativeoutfitters.com/blogs/news/90037313-bill-clinton-flips-out-when-marine-brings-up-benghazi
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OK, I guess you have no questions I've dodged.  Please don't insinuate to the readers I dodge questions.  If you don't want to answer any of the fifteen I posted, so be it.  Thanks for answering the two you did.

Edit:  Btw, if I had said "I don't know" when asked who is lying between Hillary and the families, I don't think that would have been received well, if you know what I mean.
TylerDurden

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Edited to add: that kind is how you answered the question...

You were dodging the question, and you finally "answered" it I guess. Let me research the bill and I will get back to you.

15 is a little much in my opinion. Just pick out your favorite 5 or 6 and I'll answer them. That's not too hard.
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No, I have no reason to believe anyone lied.  I can't be more straight than that.  As for the 15 questions, don't answer any you don't want to answer.
TylerDurden

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Dewey - I'll put it in your mathematical terms. If X=3 and Y=4, X and Y can not be the same.

Dewey

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X represents 30% of the number of times you've told readers I dodge your questions and, soon, Y will represent 30+% of the times we can expect you'll tell readers I dodge your questions.
TylerDurden

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Let's stay on topic: Someone in the equation is not telling the truth - the families of the administration. It can't be both if they are taking opposite sides.
Dewey

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I hear people say Obama instructed the IRS to do wrongdoing and I hear Obama say he didn't.  I wouldn't call anyone a liar without knowing the precise facts.  I let Republicans throw that word around, not me.  (Here's my chance to ask you who is lying in the example above?) 

Now I gotta ask, is this yet another time you are asking me if I think Hillary lied or if I think the families lied?  Really?  Do you want me to say "no" again?  Okay, no.
TylerDurden

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Let's stay on topic.

I'm not asking, you answered above. Thanks!
Dewey

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I hear people say Obama instructed the IRS to do wrongdoing and I hear Obama say he didn't.  I wouldn't call anyone a liar without knowing the precise facts.  I let Republicans throw that word around, not me.  (Here's my chance to ask you who is lying in the example above?) 



Thanks.  But at least answer me who is lying in my question above?

Edit:  The topic is tough questions.
TylerDurden

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I don't think he personally instructed anyone to do it, but there is enough evidence to concur there was a concerted effort to target conservative groups.
Dewey

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You're parsing.  Did Obama lie when he said he didn't instruct the IRS to do anything or are these people who say he did lying?  In your way of thinking, one side or the other must be lying.  Who is it?
Dewey

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I think he went to lunch.  Sounds like a good idea.
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No, I have no reason to believe anyone lied.  I can't be more straight than that.  As for the 15 questions, don't answer any you don't want to answer.


Except for all the evidence we've provided.

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TylerDurden

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You're parsing.  Did Obama lie when he said he didn't instruct the IRS to do anything or are these people who say he did lying?  In your way of thinking, one side or the other must be lying.  Who is it?


Who said he lied? Did he tell someone who was audited that he had nothing to do with it and then told others he did? Then they would be the same.

Good try, but not effective.
TylerDurden

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Your the one that wanted to get past Benghazi, let it go. We have your answer above.
ForeverInBlue

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This started when Lois Lerner told reporters that the “absolutely inappropriate” actions were undertaken by “front-line people” working in Cincinnati to target groups with “tea party,” “patriot” or “9/12” in their names.

Obama responded: "I have no patience with it. I will not tolerate it." 

His administration then proceeded to patiently obstruct Congressional investigations.

Obama wrote the playbook for someone like Trump or Clinton to weaponize the executive branch without taking responsibility. As bad as Obama has been, Trump and Clinton have been shown the basic tools, and will redefine Government Scandal in America, with impunity. People who could hurt the Clintons in the past have suddenly died. You ain't seen nothing yet.
Dewey

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Tyler - I'm past Benghazi.  I'm asking you a simple question like you did me.  Are those who say Obama instructed the IRS to do wrongdoing, lying?   Yes?  No?
ForeverInBlue

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No way. Dumb question. 
TylerDurden

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Tyler - I'm past Benghazi.  I'm asking you a simple question like you did me.  Are those who say Obama instructed the IRS to do wrongdoing, lying?   Yes?  No?


No - there is no way to know if he did or did not as no one has come forward and said he did as I used in my example.
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