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Softballfan12

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Softballfan12 will tell you who's the best and then you'll know...........There's nothing hard about it...........[rofl]


Do you disagree with my list?
bluedog

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I don't agree or disagree with your list.........I just know what you tell me...........

Just please don't say the earth is flat.............
Grindz

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Its flat
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All of the pitching coaches listed are at the Power 5 level where development of talent isn't as important as recruiting the talent --not taking anything away from these great coaches.  But, I think the mid-major level programs have some extremely talented and often overlooked coaches when it comes to developing pitchers.  Feel free to discuss...
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I would say that Trish Ford has to be in the mix for not only what she did with the pitchers at Fresno State but what she has continued to do now at ASU.  
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Can't imagine that everyone doesn't know that Melissa Lombardi is the top pitching coach in America.


It only took Lefty a few minutes to *&^% all over a pro-OU post. He's slipping 😉
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Let’s compare Lowary at Missouri and Lowary at Oklahoma, Lomabardi is the best in the business. Rocha can’t even get KB legal.


No doubt that the Oklahoma staff mentally rehabbed PL from a dark spot.

But don't you for one second try selling me that she didn't show that IMMENSE talent in various games at Mizzou.

No pitcher made that 2016 Oregon offense look so helpless. Then, something awful happened.

Now, if Kelsey Stevens had suddenly rolled up PL's numbers ... then you got me

Lombardi is great, like a few others. But she has done that with a big chunk of the highest-end talent in Ricketts, Parker and Lowary
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This.
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Rick Pauly


This!
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Pitching Coaches
Lise Fernandez

hitting coaches
JT gaso



Huh?
Grindz

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Huh?


Doesn't Lisa work with the hitters? Or maybe I'm mistaken. Could have sworn she did a lot with the offense

The fact that howard dobson is on the list makes this list not credible
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Lisa is UCLAs offensive coach along with Rodney Davis. She also works with pitchers on their mental game. Walker is the primary pitching coach and Kelly I is a fairly good pitch caller.
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Lisa is UCLAs offensive coach along with Rodney Davis. She also works with pitchers on their mental game. Walker is the primary pitching coach and Kelly I is a fairly good pitch caller.


Lisa is phenomenal with mental approach in hitting
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My mistake I thought Lisa did have a lot of input on the pitchers 
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My mistake I thought Lisa did have a lot of input on the pitchers 


Even if she does, I’d love a reference as to which pitcher has developed while at UCLA.
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Rachel Garcia.... seriously.... no one could screw that up....

Though, one might wonder about coming off three weeks not pitching, to throwing every day the first event back with almost 200 pitches
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Kelsey Stevens is one of the only pitchers at OU who has failed...... I am glad you pointed that out 3leftturns ......kind of makes you realize how good of a coach she is.
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Lisa is UCLAs offensive coach along with Rodney Davis. She also works with pitchers on their mental game. Walker is the primary pitching coach and Kelly I is a fairly good pitch caller.


Kirk Walker said he ONLY offers pitching tips IF the pitchers will listen to him.

KIP is the pitching coach.
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Matt Micheal is hitting coach at Arkansas....just to be fair....they got way better when he got there.

I dont think he is in this discussion...just clarification on Arkansas.


Oh by the way....when you talk about coaches...If John Rittman isnt in the discussion... as a great coach....list is missing something.


Oh...softballfan12.....can you tell us where Patty Gasso said Howard was one of the best in country? Was it on his way out the door on his way to southern miss?
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I wouldn’t provide tips to a pitcher that wouldn’t listen or I didn’t think needed it either. Walker sits in on the bullpen sessions along with Perez(who sometimes catches them) and occasionally Fernandez too. All of them are well versed in each part of the game. Walker is most definitely on the staff for his pitching knowledge and experience, that is just a fact.
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Im curious as to how anyone thinks that Florida doesn't always get blue chip pitchers?!! They mostly get who they pursue.  If they aren't getting "blue chips" it's their own doing because they're passing a lot of studs to get who they've got. i'm not knocking who they've got by any means, just tickled at the idea of someone poor mouthing for UF and their talent level. The last time UF had trouble getting studs was before Walton's time.

  As for Lombardi, from personal experience, she's absolutely at or VERY near the top of this list.  No one is discounting Paige Lowary's ability coming into OU.  However, its not only PL's success level that has changed.  Her delivery has changed drastically and for the better. The "Mizzzou hop" is gone (that crap is awful), her stride foot turns a bit more to allow her to establish a strong front side, and her pitch repertoire is different (no curve balls allowed at Mizzou). That's without visiting the mental "un-screwing" (to put it bluntly) that she has benefitted from. That lady is getting a job DONE.
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And, just because FLOsoftball didn't rank her, and she was a FGCU commit until Coach Walton woke up from his nap at the wheel.... LeLe Ocasio was an absolute stud, certainly the first time I saw her in 2013.

SIX....TOOL...PLAYER
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And, just because FLOsoftball didn't rank her, and she was a FGCU commit until Coach Walton woke up from his nap at the wheel.... LeLe Ocasio was an absolute stud, certainly the first time I saw her in 2013.

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Agreed!
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Kelsey Stevens is one of the only pitchers at OU who has failed...... I am glad you pointed that out 3leftturns ......kind of makes you realize how good of a coach she is.


Didn't Finney and Chestnut also underperform there before transferring?
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Didn't Finney and Chestnut also underperform there before transferring?


They just wasn’t that good. More of a recruiting miss on them. Anyone that seen Lowary from start Of her career at OU to present and don’t think Lombardi didn’t do work is an idiot. But Leftturn is a certified idiot so no surprise here.
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<< Ricketts, Parker and Lowary were all unquestionably top-of-the-top pitching recruits.
She's great, but let's not make it look like she is taking middling recruits and getting this product
When it was  Kelsey Stevens ....
Same with Rocha. Her blue-chips, they've done fine. >> (3LT)

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Well... the list had Rocha at the top - and Lombardi at #6.
Do you see any pitching coach in the country as deserving to be listed as "better" than Lombardi..?
I do not.
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<< Rachel Garcia.... seriously.... no one could screw that up.... 
Though, one might wonder about coming off three weeks not pitching, to throwing every day the first event back with almost 200 pitches >> (3LT)

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Be careful what you're saying... 
They just might be able - to screw that up.


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Not an OU fan, but definitely a Lombard fan. Regardless of where Lowry started/ended at Missouri, Lombardi has helped her with the mental aspect of the game after she took a liner. Problem with OU (or maybe not a problem), some players that would be everyday starters elsewhere are content to ride pine for a ring. Reincarnation of ASU past. Finney saw the writing on the wall with the Paige & Paige show. At least she’s seeing success at Ole Miss, but not necessarily as a pitcher. Rocha...would be more impressive if she can get KB to stop the crow hopping. But until she gets blasted by umps, she won’t change and won’t be forced to change. Ford can definitely get the most out of her pitchers and uses their strengths. Fernandez, well...it’s UCLA and players want to go there. Not sure I’d rank her too high as Garcia was a stud prior to showing up. Grauer hasn’t panned out in my opinion, minimal innings. Using freshman over Grauer & Ta”amilo. White, well he’s another one who gets the most out of his pitchers and uses their strengths. But his pitchers have the benefit of solid defense and offense taking any stress off his pitchers to be perfect.
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Kelsey Stevens is one of the only pitchers at OU who has failed...... I am glad you pointed that out 3leftturns ......kind of makes you realize how good of a coach she is.



Kelsey Stevens also had huge back problems, thus her unorthodox delivery, so I would say Lombardi did an excellent job of getting Stevens to be able to throw at all her last year playing.
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<< Does Lombardi ever want to be a head coach? >> (Grindz)

<< I’m sure that she aspires to be a head coach but her current gig with a 185k salary is pretty good, it would be hard to leave for less than a major P5 job. >> (upontop)

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I believe that Melyssa Lombardi is perfectly happy being PG's second in command. She is very well paid and they (her & PG) are a great team that knows exactly how to work together and get the job done. If she wanted to be a head coach somewhere else - she could have done so many, many times over the years. I think she is right where she wants to be.
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