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3leftturns

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Originally Posted by HenryLouisAaron
<< 1. Oklahoma
2. Oregon
3. Washington
4. UCLA
5. Florida
6. Arizona State
7. Georgia
8. Florida State
9. Arizona
10. South Carolina
11. Tennessee
12. LSU
13. Auburn
14. Texas A&M
15. Michigan
16. Mississippi State/Louisiana/Baylor (lol) >> (SoVerySleepy)

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3LT - SoVerySleepy's prediction of the new top 16 made me wonder... 
where do you rank Arizona State and South Carolina as of today?

He has them at #6 & #10. 
Those EONS are really getting smaller.

I would also rank ASU as a supers host and USC as not.

No change there from last week.
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Here is my crack at it:

1. Oklahoma
2. Washington
3. Oregon
4. Florida
5. UCLA
6. Georgia
7. Arizona
8. Arizona State
9. Florida State
10. South Carolina
11. Auburn
12. Tennessee
13. LSU
14. Baylor
15. Texas A&M
16. Mississippi State
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Possibly. Especially if ASU ends up as a top 8 and SC as a top 16 on May 13

Going 6-0 on the road against Oregon, Oregon State and Baylor would give the committee good conversation, though Baylor looks wobbly/fraudulent with those three losses the past 12 days, two of them outside the Top 25.

That said, the committee knows the game Gasso is playing here with her creampuff schedule. They more likely would be penalized, a win in Eugene notwithstanding.


That would only serve to further illustrate the fallacy of rpi's role in determining the tournament seeding. But as I've said before, it will have no bearing on who's crowned 2018 national champion.
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Thank God for the RPI.

Oklahoma already has its games in the Elite 8, Final Four and championship at their home town with their own umping crews.

If it were up to lemming pollsters, they would pay no attention to the creampuff schedule and let her baby the roster from mid-February to mid-May, hand her a 1 seed, home regional and then the 16 team as a visiting super regionalist.

We all have to live with them being set up in OKC, but there is nothing wrong with making them earn their way there, like anyone else.

And to be sure, you all may be irritated at Selection Sunday and RPI not treating Oklahoma's playoff setup as some coronation, but Gasso is fine with it. She balances RPI/committee values vs. the maintenance of her program, and says, I can make the super regionals work, even if they aren't at Norman.

And, does that with flying colors
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If they were picking national seeds today, here's what I would have,

1) Washington 
2) Oklahoma 
3) UCLA
4) Florida
5) Oregon
6) Georgia
7) Arizona State
8) Arizona
9) Auburn
10) Tennessee
11) LSU
12) TX A&M
13) South Carolina
14) Florida State
15) Alabama
16) Michigan 


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If they were picking national seeds today, here's what I would have,

1) Washington 
2) Oklahoma 
3) UCLA
4) Florida
5) Oregon
6) Georgia
7) Arizona State
8) Arizona
9) Auburn
10) Tennessee
11) LSU
12) TX A&M
13) South Carolina
14) Florida State
15) Alabama
16) Michigan 

UCLA must have a pitcher transferring in tomorrow

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If they were picking national seeds today, here's what I would have,

1) Washington 
2) Oklahoma 
3) UCLA
4) Florida
5) Oregon
6) Georgia
7) Arizona State
8) Arizona
9) Auburn
10) Tennessee
11) LSU
12) TX A&M
13) South Carolina
14) Florida State
15) Alabama
16) Michigan 



Totally respectable list. I think I would replace Michigan with LBSU, but it's close.
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I had a lot of trouble with 15 and 16, so many could take those spots
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UCLA must have a pitcher transferring in tomorrow


Where would you have them? I wouldn’t be opposed to moving them below Oregon and UF

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Just saying, they are having real trouble trying to pitch without Garcia out there

And even Garcia, as great as she can be, she has thrown 332 pitches in 18 1/3 Pac innings ... forcing those other pitchers out there more than they should be

Offensively, with more than one-fifth of the Pac schedule finished, they are scoring less than four runs a game

That combo, if it persists, will bite them. I expect it to improve, but it is what it is right now

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I'm not arguing with you, Garcia tends to get too nibbly and runs a high pitch count and her back ups are grossly disappointing in pac play so far. As for the offense, I'm not too concerned about that. I may be a Bruin fan, but I'm not over here denying their flaws. I'm confident Kelly I will peak her team at the end of the season.
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I think Ta'amilo will come around, she was injured in the off season and just seems like she needs more time to find consistent control around the zone. 

Holly A has potential, when her change is working, she is solid and capable of getting Ks and keeping the ball on the infield. 

I do think that they could get to OKC riding Garcia, their success at the CWS would be suspect however. 

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I'm not arguing with you, Garcia tends to get too nibbly and runs a high pitch count and her back ups are grossly disappointing in pac play so far. As for the offense, I'm not too concerned about that. I may be a Bruin fan, but I'm not over here denying their flaws. I'm confident Kelly I will peak her team at the end of the season.
all true

And, Jelenicki will be big

Only thing that sticks out is those pitches per inning for the ace
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Never going to happen with Michigan as a Top 16 seed.

Given they went 1-1 versus Iowa this week along with a midweek win over Central Michigan, they will likely drop a spot or two this week from 22 to 24 range in this week's RPI.

Even if they won all of their remaining 23 regular season games to go 47-7 and won 3 more Big Ten Tournament games to Win the Big Ten Regular Season and Tournament Championship and for them to finish with a 50-7 record. That would put them on a 26 game winning streak on Selection Sunday, and 44-1 in their final 45 games. Given all of that happening, they are best case the #25 RPI team on Selection Sunday, very well could be as low as #30 RPI team.

Given that the selection committee has not shown a history of dropping down into the 25-30 RPI range to give Top 16 seed to that low of RPI.
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And, man, if they DID that, Allister might hire a hitman
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Funny thing is if Michigan goes 50-7 (22-1 in Big 10) wins the regular season championship and tournament championship and is 25 in RPI on selection Sunday, the Big 10 will think they deserve a Top 16 seed and will be crying foul. Michigan at 25 in RPI getting passed over is much less of a crime than Minnesota at 11-12 in RPI on selection Sunday.
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Like I said, "hitman"

And, Minnesota not hosting was the correct move last year.

Can't duck February and March with that sort of conference schedule on deck
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Originally Posted by 3leftturns
Thank God for the RPI.

Oklahoma already has its games in the Elite 8, Final Four and championship at their home town with their own umping crews.

If it were up to lemming pollsters, they would pay no attention to the creampuff schedule and let her baby the roster from mid-February to mid-May, hand her a 1 seed, home regional and then the 16 team as a visiting super regionalist.

We all have to live with them being set up in OKC, but there is nothing wrong with making them earn their way there, like anyone else.

And to be sure, you all may be irritated at Selection Sunday and RPI not treating Oklahoma's playoff setup as some coronation, but Gasso is fine with it. She balances RPI/committee values vs. the maintenance of her program, and says, I can make the super regionals work, even if they aren't at Norman.

And, does that with flying colors


You, at times, come off as an unhappy and insecure little man.

If, as you claim, Gasso "saves" her pitching staff by scheduling creampuffs (Oregon, Arizona, SC, etc.) in the OOC, then the response for your "high RPI" SEC/Pac teams should be this: Take a cue from Gasso and go out and recruit pitchers who can take some of the pressure off your No. 1.

Of course, you fail to mention that last season was basically the first time in history that OU had the luxury of providing much/any help for its No. 1 pitcher. Parker carried the load all by herself in OU's 2016 run to the WCWS title. Even in 2013, for a team many believe was the best in history, Keilani Ricketts was pretty much IT, except for that assist from Michelle Gascoigne at the very end.

The crying and chirping about OU's advantages is not a good look for fans of SEC/Pac teams. Hopefully, that attitude is limited to a few jealous/entitled fans who post on this board, and not representative of the actual programs these fans follow.
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I don't care what the 'look' is. It is a fact.

They are able to save the staff in the conference schedule. And the umps in OKC last year made calls like they were in the back pocket.

But if you think that Baylor-Oklahoma State-Texas-Texas Tech-Kansas-Iowa State are anywhere near as challenging as UCLA-Washington-Arizona State-Arizona-Utah-Oregon State... then have at it


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I don't care what the 'look' is. It is a fact.

They are able to save the staff in the conference schedule.





If that's the case, then good for them.

Edit: You forgot to mention Arizona State-Arizona-South Carolina-Oregon.
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If that's the case, then good for them.


I wouldn't worry bought Oklahoma being able to rest pitchers they have 3 studs and a pretty good fourth pitcher. I knew the Paige's were very good but the Lopez kid impressed me. Good luck the rest of the season your team is fun to watch.
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con-fer-ence schedule

But, yeah, having three games against top 10 teams by the end of the season works into that narrative, if you want to insist on it
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Originally Posted by HenryLouisAaron
<< 1. Oklahoma
2. Oregon
3. Washington
4. UCLA
5. Florida
6. Arizona State
7. Georgia
8. Florida State
9. Arizona
10. South Carolina
11. Tennessee
12. LSU
13. Auburn
14. Texas A&M
15. Michigan
16. Mississippi State/Louisiana/Baylor (lol) >> (SoVerySleepy)

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3LT - SoVerySleepy's prediction of the new top 16 made me wonder... 
where do you rank Arizona State and South Carolina as of today?

He has them at #6 & #10. 
Those EONS are really getting smaller.

; )
6 and 8.... we are out of eons-ville....lol
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I don't care what the 'look' is. It is a fact.

They are able to save the staff in the conference schedule. And the umps in OKC last year made calls like they were in the back pocket.

But if you think that Baylor-Oklahoma State-Texas-Texas Tech-Kansas-Iowa State are anywhere near as challenging as UCLA-Washington-Arizona State-Arizona-Utah-Oregon State... then have at it




Damn you cry more than a baby. Just stfu.
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I wouldn't worry bought Oklahoma being able to rest pitchers they have 3 studs and a pretty good fourth pitcher. I knew the Paige's were very good but the Lopez kid impressed me. Good luck the rest of the season your team is fun to watch.


Thanks, Ij10. Patty Gasso and her assistants have worked hard to build a pitching staff after having almost worked Paige Parker to death in 2016. For the life of me, I can't understand why some posters on this board are so jealous of what Gasso has accomplished.
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Thanks, Ij10. Patty Gasso and her assistants have worked hard to build a pitching staff after having almost worked Paige Parker to death in 2016. For the life of me, I can't understand why some posters on this board are so jealous of what Gasso has accomplished.

I look at it as they are the gold standard. Their lineup has no holes and defense is really solid not to mention the ptching staff is ridiculous. Doesn't matter what conference they play in they would be the team to best. This coming from a SEC homer. Lol.
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They could win either conference... no doubt to me
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I look at it as they are the gold standard. Their lineup has no holes and defense is really solid not to mention the ptching staff is ridiculous. Doesn't matter what conference they play in they would be the team to best. This coming from a SEC homer whose perspective is based on logic, not shameless homerism. Lol.


FIFY. Lol.

Thanks again.
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Oklahoma is definitely the school dead in the middle of the West and East coast teams that brings them all down to earth.
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Michigan had very little chance to host prior to this weekend.  But losing 1 of 2 to Iowa AND Ohio State getting swept by Indiana was catastrophic to their chances.  Look at their remaining schedule.  3 games with Purdue (#218).  1 game with Eastern Michigan (#280).  3 games with Penn State (#223).  3 with Rutgers (101).  3 with Maryland (#135).  3 with Indiana (140).  3 with Ohio State (now #33).  How can they possibly help themselves with that schedule?  Even the BIG tourney won't help that much.     

So... no.  Michigan will not host.  But there is a team out there, could be Tennessee, could be Oregon, who will not at all be pleased to see MI in their regional. 
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