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RahOKU

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it's not voodoo math. Easily calculated.

Current SOS (before weekend games)
OR #7
UCLA #34
WA #36
OK #86

SOS at end of season (using current w/l)
OR #3
WA #7
UCLA #12
OK #31

RPI (games through last Tuesday)
WA #2
UCLA #3
OR #4
OK #14

To put it more simply, OK playing a weak non-conference schedule (86th so far), combined with a mediocre conference, spells trouble with the committee.


There's RPI, which is basically a SOS ranking, and there's reality -- which is back to back WCWS championships.

Which teams at this point do you really think would be favored over Oklahoma in a three-game series?
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Is it the Oklahoma win percentage that has it as high as 14?


We both know there IS yet no rpi. But when there is, I couldn't care less if OU's is 14th or 44th.
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Is it the Oklahoma win percentage that has it as high as 14?


Yes. Similar to MN last year.
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We both know there IS yet no rpi. But when there is, I couldn't care less if OU's is 14th or 44th.
Yes, all the chirping is fully evident of that apathy
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There's RPI, which is basically a SOS ranking, and there's reality -- which is back to back WCWS championships. Which teams at this point do you really think would be favored over Oklahoma in a three-game series?
Not played in Oklahoma?
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Not played in Oklahoma?


The capital of college softball?
RahOKU

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Not played in Oklahoma?


Yep. Neutral field, like ASA Stadium. 😃
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Plenty would be favored. No one by a lot, though.

Lefty pitching is awesome
RahOKU

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Plenty would be favored. No one by a lot, though.

Lefty pitching is awesome


Name some names, my friend. Three-game series.
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Not played in Oklahoma?
You do realize that the defending national champions went to Auburn where they swept seeded Auburn at Auburn in order to get to the CWS?  Now, who can beat OU in a three-game series on their own home field?  OU is better with better pitching this year.  We won it when we had to give up a game in 2016, pitching a pitcher who couldn't find the strike zone, who blew a 7-0 lead.  We have three, maybe four pitchers who can pitch in the CWS as a legitimate starter this year.

I don't think Florida shows disrespect.  Now, which team do you represent that you consistently find a way to downgrade all that is OU?   Can your team compete?
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We both know there IS yet no rpi. But when there is, I couldn't care less if OU's is 14th or 44th.


Rpi is a mathematical formula. Anyone can calculate it. I wrote a program to pull the stats from the ncaa site and do just that. Thats what's posted on the other thread. Just because the ncaa doesn't publish it yet doesn't mean it doesn't exist. Math is like that.
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There's RPI, which is basically a SOS ranking, and there's reality -- which is back to back WCWS championships. Which teams at this point do you really think would be favored over Oklahoma in a three-game series?


Obviously, no one would be favored in such a situation, just as there would be limitations over whom Oklahoma would be favored. But the teams, right now, with the best chance of competing with Oklahoma in a three game series would be Florida, UCLA, Oregon and Arizona.
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You do realize that the defending national champions went to Auburn where they swept seeded Auburn at Auburn in order to get to the CWS?
Yes, a team utterly imploding under scandal who also was saved by an ump call in regionals, or Cal would have been playing in the Supers in Norman. The best possible draw for any 9-16 team
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Yes, a team utterly imploding under scandal who also was saved by an ump call in regionals, or Cal would have been playing in the Supers in Norman. The best possible draw for any 9-16 team


3leftturns: the excuse maker. LOL.
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3leftturns: the excuse maker. LOL.
As I said, in road supers roulette, sometimes you get Osorio, sometimes you get Corey Myers
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As I said, in road supers roulette, sometimes you get Osorio, sometimes you get Corey Myers


Lol. I've said it before, but I like you, Lefty. You're like a puppy - too cute for words.
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Just stop licking your rear end and stop giving us your fleas
Lol
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Just stop licking your rear end and stop giving us your fleas
Lol


I believe you've got the roles reversed. And stop peeing on the carpet.
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Had to kill those fleas somehow!!!
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Yes, a team utterly imploding under scandal who also was saved by an ump call in regionals, or Cal would have been playing in the Supers in Norman. The best possible draw for any 9-16 team


Wow! That conspiracy was a lot farther reaching than I realized!!! Umpires for the Cal vs Auburn regional were even involved. This is serious stuff!!!
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Rpi rating is based solely on who you played and beat.... So yes Sec and pac-12 will have most of the higher seeds. The committee should know Oklahoma should be the number one seed regardless......but we know that’s not going to happen either. If OU continues on their streak they should be no worse than a 4 seed. It really doesn’t matter does it....we won it all as a 14 seed a 9 seed as have others. It really penalizes the teams like Washington who we beat 3-1 in the 2nd round. We shouldn’t of had to play them till the semis.
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And yes OU will be a team to reckon with again our pitching and hitting is ever better this year.
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Can we keep this going each week?

In addition to conference play this weekend, we also now have the RPI to factor in. Things definitely look a bit different.

South Carolina swept Tennessee, which gives the Gamecocks some credit for sure, but with as many runs as they're prone to give up in each game, I can't see them finishing Top 3 in the conference, nor as a Top 8 seed. Washington surged during Oregon's off week and UCLA is most likely set to win the series against Oregon State. Florida looks like a new team, having already taken it to the Aggies in back-to-back games (Game 2 still under way...).


1. Oklahoma
2. Oregon
3. Washington
4. UCLA
5. Florida
6. Arizona State
7. Georgia
8. Florida State
9. Arizona
10. South Carolina
11. Tennessee
12. LSU
13. Auburn
14. Texas A&M
15. Michigan
16. Mississippi State/Louisiana/Baylor (lol)
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That 6-8 slotting is going to be nuts
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And, no one from the Big Ten will host
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<< 1. Oklahoma
2. Oregon
3. Washington
4. UCLA
5. Florida
6. Arizona State
7. Georgia
8. Florida State
9. Arizona
10. South Carolina
11. Tennessee
12. LSU
13. Auburn
14. Texas A&M
15. Michigan
16. Mississippi State/Louisiana/Baylor (lol) >> (SoVerySleepy)

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3LT - SoVerySleepy's prediction of the new top 16 made me wonder... 
where do you rank Arizona State and South Carolina as of today?

He has them at #6 & #10. 
Those EONS are really getting smaller.

; )
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And, no one from the Big Ten will host


And OK is unlikely to be the #1 seed with SOS ranked 77.

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<< And OK is unlikely to be the #1 seed with SOS ranked 77. >> (cjs4585)


It is highly unlikely that Oklahoma will finish out the regular season with just the two losses they currently have.

But, for the sake of argument, let's say they do.

Would they be the #1 seed?
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<< And OK is unlikely to be the #1 seed with SOS ranked 77. >> (cjs4585)


It is highly unlikely that Oklahoma will finish out the regular season with just the two losses they currently have.

But, for the sake of argument, let's say they do.

Would they be the #1 seed?


MN didn't get to host at all last year at 56-3 (admittedly with a SOS in the 110s if I remember correctly). They had 2 top 25 wins (and 3 losses).

OK would have 7-10 top 25 wins (depending on OK st status of top 25 or not) with 1 top 25 loss and 1 "bad" loss. Their SOS should improve some as well.

If one of the other top teams(with better SOS, top 25 wins) doesn't come close to that loss total, then yes, I could see OK getting the top spot in that case.
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<< And OK is unlikely to be the #1 seed with SOS ranked 77. >> (cjs4585)


It is highly unlikely that Oklahoma will finish out the regular season with just the two losses they currently have.

But, for the sake of argument, let's say they do.

Would they be the #1 seed?

Possibly. Especially if ASU ends up as a top 8 and SC as a top 16 on May 13

Going 6-0 on the road against Oregon, Oregon State and Baylor would give the committee good conversation, though Baylor looks wobbly/fraudulent with those three losses the past 12 days, two of them outside the Top 25.

That said, the committee knows the game Gasso is playing here with her creampuff schedule. They more likely wouldn't be elevated, a win in Eugene notwithstanding.
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