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soothsayer

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Who's looking like they'll be a national seed after the first third of the season is over?

My picks for Supers below:

#1 Oklahoma 
#16 Baylor

#2 UCLA
#15 Alabama

#3 Washington
#14 Michigan

#4 Georgia
#13 Auburn

#5 Florida
#12 LSU

#6 Oregon
#11 Texas A&M

#7 Tennessee
#10 Arizona 

#8 Arizona State
#9 Florida State 

leip822

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UF, UCLA, Tennessee, OU, UGA, Oregon, and UW are all going to be top 8 national seeds(barring implosion) in whatever order. the 8th is up for grabs atm. 
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For giggles...

  1. UCLA
  2. Oklahoma
  3. Washington
  4. Oregon
  5. Georgia
  6. Florida
  7. Tennessee
  8. Arizona

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OK is going to run afoul of rpi/SoS again. That said I don't think they'd keep them out of a national seed for a 5th pac team.

#1 UCLA. #16 Baylor
#2 WA. #15 AL
#3 GA. #14 MI
#4 OR. #13 AUB
#5 FL. #12 LSU
#6 TN. #11 TAM
#7 OK #10 FSU
#8 ASU #9 AZ

I know people hate intra-conference supers match ups, but the commitee seems to like them. They also seem to like match ups they've given before, so WA/AL and maybe OR/Baylor seem possible.

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OK is going to run afoul of rpi/SoS again. That said I don't think they'd keep them out of a national seed for a 5th pac team.

#1 UCLA. #16 Baylor
#2 WA. #15 AL
#3 GA. #14 MI
#4 OR. #13 AUB
#5 FL. #12 LSU
#6 TN. #11 TAM
#7 OK #10 FSU
#8 ASU #9 AZ

I know people hate intra-conference supers match ups, but the commitee seems to like them. They also seem to like match ups they've given before, so WA/AL and maybe OR/Baylor seem possible.



As ignorant as that first sentence sounds, it's likely true. The NCAA and national media are as biased and partisan as you, and there's no doubt that ridiculous argument will be used to give SEC/Pac teams every advantage possible.

In the end, it may not matter (it certainly didn't last season). OU may not become the second team to win three WCWS titles in a row, but if the Sooners fail, it will be because they lost to a better team. It won't be due to an effort to engineer the WCWS bracket.
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Just my crack at it:

1. UCLA
2. Washington
3. Tennessee
4. Florida
5. Oklahoma
6. Oregon
7. Georgia
8. Texas A&M
9. Florida State
10. Arizona
11. LSU
12. Arizona State
13. Alabama
14. Auburn
15. Baylor
16. South Carolina
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No bias about it. Oklahoma is playing hot garbage and that is by design. Gasso saves her arms like teams in the pac and sec cannot. I am glad there is some small price (and it IS only a small price) she has to pay for it. No bias... just math
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If georgia wins today, they are no. 1.
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If georgia wins today, they are no. 1.

^^ +1
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No bias about it. Oklahoma is playing hot garbage and that is by design. Gasso saves her arms like teams in the pac and sec cannot. I am glad there is some small price she has to pay for it. No bias... just math


Voodoo math. Last year was the first time in quite a while that OU had any semblance of a pitching staff. The Sooners won it all in 2016 with Paige Parker pitching almost every inning of every game. Gasso's so called advantage is nothing more than an excuse for losing to OU.
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Originally Posted by Sec_fan91
Just my crack at it:

1. UCLA
2. Washington
3. Tennessee
4. Florida
5. Oklahoma
6. Oregon
7. Georgia
8. Texas A&M
9. Florida State
10. Arizona
11. LSU
12. Arizona State
13. Alabama
14. Auburn
15. Baylor
16. South Carolina


You have UGA 7th after this weekend???
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"Hot garbage"? South Carolina? ASU? Nebraska? Ohio State? Hmm.
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Those are fine second-tier wins (non-regional-host-caliber), and I do believe ASU will be a regional host, so that would be a top-shelfer, but, last year, Oklahoma had seven games played against Top 16 RPI teams going into selection. This year, they will have four (Arizona and Baylor x3), five if ASU sneaks in there.

Plus, unlike last year, where their worst loss before NDSU was to a No. 39 Notre Dame, they have a legitimately bad loss on there.

It isn't voodoo math. The math last year had Oklahoma 10th.... seems about right for a team that won the games it did in postseason, and lost to the  139 team

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If georgia wins today, they are no. 1.

I think if UCLA wins they’re #1

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Not with that loss. Georgia will have swept the No. 2 team in the country and have won 26 in a row
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Good point. I still think UCLA’s overall body of work has been stronger, with a win @ Oregon today.
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I don't think UCLA had any body of work before this series except for LSU game
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UCLA top-shelf games (LSU, Oregonx3)

Georgia top-shelf games (Oregon, UFx3)

Almost identical, slight edge to Georgia

 

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Same can be said for UGA and the Oregon game
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And, I keep forgetting that Georgia lost that game.... so I think I am with you.

UCLA No. 1 with a win
Georgia No. 1 with a win and a UCLA loss
Tennessee No. 1 with losses by UCLA and Georgia

 

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Caught the sneaky edit [tongue]. I agree that Washington will move down after getting shutout by ASU. 
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Yes... that was a living-document post [wink]
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And, I keep forgetting that Georgia lost that game.... so I think I am with you.

UCLA No. 1 with a win
Georgia No. 1 with a win and a UCLA loss
Tennessee No. 1 with losses by UCLA and Georgia

 



Maybe I'm just not seeing what everyone else is seeing, but Tennessee has played some very close games to inferior competition. I wholly expect them to start hitting a rough patch in SEC play and wouldn't be surprised if Carolina stole the series. Not convinced their pitching can mix it up enough and be consistent deep into the postseason. There's no doubting their abilities on offense though, particularly with Vines back.

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Tennessee has played some very close games to inferior competition. I wholly expect them to start hitting a rough patch in SEC play and wouldn't be surprised if Carolina stole the series. Not convinced their pitching can mix it up enough and be consistent deep into the postseason. There's no doubting their abilities on offense though, particularly with Vines back. 
I think they are a very complete team. But, I was simply assessing what I think is the order of things by tonight

I do agree that, like Oklahoma, Washington, Georgia and UCLA, they had played mostly second-tier teams or worse before this weekend
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Sooners with another second-tier victory, 5-0 over #17 Ohio State. Parker and Lowary combined 2-hitter. Alo with 4 RBI. Romero two hits to add to her .521 average.
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Yep
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Yep


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Voodoo math. Last year was the first time in quite a while that OU had any semblance of a pitching staff. The Sooners won it all in 2016 with Paige Parker pitching almost every inning of every game. Gasso's so called advantage is nothing more than an excuse for losing to OU.


it's not voodoo math. Easily calculated.

Current SOS (before weekend games)
OR #7
UCLA #34
WA #36
OK #86

SOS at end of season (using current w/l)
OR #3
WA #7
UCLA #12
OK #31

RPI (games through last Tuesday)
WA #2
UCLA #3
OR #4
OK #14

To put it more simply, OK playing a weak non-conference schedule (86th so far), combined with a mediocre conference, spells trouble with the committee.
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Is it the Oklahoma win percentage that has it as high as 14?
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