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mikec

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Do you approve of Dana?


Of Course.

Here was Dana's argument with McEnemy, which is essentially mine with some of these know-it-all newly minted Conservatives.

Kristen said Dana wasn't a conservative because she did not support trump.  Dana's response was to list a long list of issues and candidates she has been working for and supporting, long before Kristen knew what a Dem or GOP was.

That is the essence of my argument with Tomi - she went all in on the lectures.  My point is she is too young to be giving those lectures.

She can have an opinion, but when that opinion is to lecture people who have been fighting these fights longer than she has been alive, then my answer is: grow up and then I'll listen. 

Do something - get involved in some campaigns - be part of a Constitutional amendment effort - anything.

Just do more than sit on TV and think you have the chops to lecture because you're blond. 

So, that was Dana's answer to the other girl, and that's mine as well.

They can talk all day long, but they haven't proven anything.  When they start telling some of us old farts, who have been in the trenches for longer than they've been alive, then, whatever.

It seems the larger the platform, the more they scream and lecture. 

Maybe now that the election is over, she can do what UWA said and go back to going after Dems.  Maybe then they'll be interesting again.
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ps as to Dana:  She posted some stuff on twitter a few days ago that I wish she hadn't.  Her son received death threats in email from anti-gunners, and pictures of people who had shot themselves under the chin.

She reposted those photos to make a point on twitter, which I get.  However, I really didn't need to see those pics.  I have known 4 people that have put a gun under their chin and pulled the trigger, and I have tried hard not to imagine how they looked when they were found.  Her pics made her point about how awful these people are, but they helped put some images in my head that are disturbing.

So it goes - I'm a man - I'll deal with it.
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Good post mike but did you ever think her audience is not you?  Perhaps she is trying to convince the snowflakes the error of their ways.  Lots of loony tunes out there are bashing someone before he even takes office

 I was with Dana when she bucked the Drumpf.  I saw the Twitterverse blast her and her husband.

 Tomi is good for our youth, imo.  I think we need more than one messenger to save this country.  The election is over

I didn't vote for obummer and we didn't bash him here until like 2011. We all had a wait and see attitude on him except Sean Hannity and PGP (they disliked him from day 1); then [obamacare shoved down our throats, ME Apology tour, Arab Spring, his failed 'red line', his failure to compromise  ]  

Can't you and dewy at least give the Drumpf a chance?  you and I did that for Barack

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She reposted those photos to make a point on twitter, which I get.  However, I really didn't need to see those pics.  I have known 4 people that have put a gun under their chin and pulled the trigger, and I have tried hard not to imagine how they looked when they were found.  Her pics made her point about how awful these people are, but they helped put some images in my head that are disturbing.

So it goes - I'm a man - I'll deal with it.


That's an awfully 'large' number? WTF  You don't like the faces of death as evidenced of my pics of the Ambassador [yes I went there again].  4 people suicide by gun?  Good gawd

Dana is an American badass

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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I think you, and maybe some others, misunderstand where I'm at.

Clearly, I opposed trump - you know that.  I still think he's a scumbag, and that hasn't changed.  Heck, remember when he blamed Bush for 9/11?  Did he ever apologize for that?  No, because, by his own admission, he has never done anything that he needed to ask forgiveness for.  Not a single thing.

However, he did get elected, so he will be my POTUS. 

He has done some good things - I've said that too.  Surprisingly good, actually.  I am hopeful he keeps it up.

He sowed division in the GOP like I've never seen before.  That can not be denied.  Much of that was from has-been-wannabe-agains, like Huckabee, Gingrich, and Giuliani, or Johnny-come-lately's, like many of these new pundits, Lewandowski, Ivanka - people who have never been Republicans their whole life, but all of a sudden act like they get to tell me how to be one.

Now that the election is over, I will support what shoud be supported.

What I won't do is lay down and pretend that everything he says is pure genius, and good for America.

Democrats fell for the cult of celebrity worship.  I hope Republicans don't.

Some of you may call it butthurt, which is fine - go right ahead.  I worship no man, and I won't take everything this guy says as gospel truth, because almost none of it is.

He may yet be good for the country - he's off on the right track.  That doesn't mean I will look the other way when he's an idiot, and I won't take lectures from kids.


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Look around, your teammates are changing all the time.  The world is changing right in front of our eyes. Be for one team or the other, pretty easy to tell which team is closer to your ideas and goals.  Be a part of a team mike, we need you.  With your history in politics you surely know it is far easier to sit in the back and throw rocks, far more difficult to be a part of true change.  obama proved he wasn't up to the task
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That's an awfully 'large' number? WTF  You don't like the faces of death as evidenced of my pics of the Ambassador [yes I went there again].  4 people suicide by gun?  Good gawd

Dana is an American badass


Like I said, I understood her point.  Was important for her to show how despicable the anti-gunners are.

Personal issue for me that I'll get over.


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I think you, and maybe some others, misunderstand where I'm at. Perhaps

Clearly, I opposed trump - you know that.  I still think he's a scumbag, and that hasn't changed.  Heck, remember when he blamed Bush for 9/11?  Did he ever apologize for that?  No, because, by his own admission, he has never done anything that he needed to ask forgiveness for.  Not a single thing.

However, he did get elected, so he will be my POTUS. 

He has done some good things - I've said that too.  Surprisingly good, actually.  I am hopeful he keeps it up.

He sowed division in the GOP like I've never seen before.  That can not be denied.  Much of that was from has-been-wannabe-agains, like Huckabee, Gingrich, and Giuliani, or Johnny-come-lately's, like many of these new pundits, Lewandowski, Ivanka - people who have never been Republicans their whole life, but all of a sudden act like they get to tell me how to be one.

Now that the election is over, I will support what shoud be supported.

What I won't do is lay down and pretend that everything he says is pure genius, and good for America.

Democrats fell for the cult of celebrity worship.  I hope Republicans don't.

Some of you may call it butthurt, I haven't called you that, I was called that also, sticks and stones which is fine - go right ahead.  I worship no man, and I won't take everything this guy says as gospel truth, because almost none of it is.

He may yet be good for the country - he's off on the right track.  That doesn't mean I will look the other way when he's an idiot, and I won't take lectures from kids.




I still have never seen a Final Thoughts of her's and thought "Is she talking to me?"  I don't know why you think she would be lecturing you.

 Are you waiting for the Fam to get up and get stirring, like I am?  Gonna be a BUSY day today.  Last Christmas for my Dad at home, before nursing home, tough to go through.  If I don't say it again, wishing you and yours a Blessed Christmas Eve and Christmas, I've enjoyed the back and forth with you over the years.

Jesus is the Reason for the Season

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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I still have never seen a Final Thoughts of her's and thought "Is she talking to me?"  I don't know why you think she would be lecturing you.

 Are you waiting for the Fam to get up and get stirring, like I am?  Gonna be a BUSY day today.  Last Christmas for my Dad at home, before nursing home, tough to go through.  If I don't say it again, wishing you and yours a Blessed Christmas Eve and Christmas, I've enjoyed the back and forth with you over the years.

Jesus is the Reason for the Season


Thanks, you too.  Tough for you with Dad, I'm sure.

Merry Christmas.

Going to the oldest daughter's place for Christmas tomorrow.  We are in the middle of a move, and the house is a wreck.  Actually, more like a corn maze made of moving boxes.  Blech.


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Check out clips from wally george "hot seat" and morton downey jr.......venting to audience. Angry. Screaming.
Even pretty she would not have been noticed online without that.

Maddows is not ugly. She got her show on msnbc in 2008 and fame because of her experience and degrees in public policy and political science. She, like ellen throws her sexuality out there every now and then.
Greta van Susteran has had plastic surgery because her ratings took a nose dive years ago. She got her break doing oj trail. She was a criminal defense and civil trial lawyer.
Maddows and Suseren got their break due to talent and resume. Tomi had no resume and got her break from looks and attitude. Notice she is more popular than either of them too.

And third comment---Being republican does not mean you have to support trump. he won. He is president elect. Our side won. Hillary has been hit with water and melted. 
The goal was to defeat hillary. Mission accomplished. I am not going to act like all of a sudden I am a trump fan. Glad he won....that was a victory for republican party. 
Trump winning was like cheering for a team against the patriots. Anyone playing them i cheer for. But once the game is won I don't support that team. I just wanted patriots to lose.
Trump is not going to deliver even half of what he promised (as we have seen him backtrack like michale jackson moonwalking) and he is not going to be as bad as liberals think either. He will be closer to middle and a hella lot better than the wicked witch of the left

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"Maddows is not ugly."
Lost me there bro. Sorry
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Wish I knew how to embed photos cuss she don't look at all like that and you know it.
Kind of like when bangers get shot by the cops and the media trots out photos from when they were cute little 10yr old kids.
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Wish I knew how to embed photos cuss she don't look at all like that and you know it. Kind of like when bangers get shot by the cops and the media trots out photos from when they were cute little 10yr old kids.


Here ya go buddy.

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Racheal Maddow as a female is kinda qt.  Racheal Maddow as a dude sucks.

[rachel-maddow]
 
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"If have not been losing and grousing about for 40 years, you can not even know what is true conservationism."

Puleease.  Somebody like Tomi has already done 100x more than Mikec will ever do for promoting more conservative ideas and she is only 24 and getting going.   She has converted way more people.  She has been in real debates on TV with Trevor Noah in front of the confrontational daily show audience.  

She has millions of follows.  Mikec's brand of conservative is a party of about 3-4 people.



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A few of you get on your anti Mike soapboxes and you really make yourself look like idiots with some of your comments.
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Here ya go buddy.

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You had to go there

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"Maddows is not ugly."
Lost me there bro. Sorry
https://goo.gl/images/tTiLFK


You know fhoenix, he likes to float those trial balloons

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Wish I knew how to embed photos cuss she don't look at all like that and you know it.

I expect your issue is with the gooped-up Google search URL rather than using the Insert Photo function. To get a direct URL from your Google page, click on the View Image button.

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"If have not been losing and grousing about for 40 years, you can not even know what is true conservationism."

Puleease.  Somebody like Tomi has already done 100x more than Mikec will ever do for promoting more conservative ideas and she is only 24 and getting going.   She has converted way more people.  She has been in real debates on TV with Trevor Noah in front of the confrontational daily show audience.  

She has millions of follows.  Mikec's brand of conservative is a party of about 3-4 people.





Merry Christmas
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A few of you get on your anti Mike soapboxes and you really make yourself look like idiots with some of your comments.


Thanks.

Only the ones who just found conservative religion, ala the PEOTUS.

The others is good back and forth.

We can disagree. It's only with new GOPers that it's 100% agree with trump, or it's nothing.

At least we've learned who was really behind 9/11.

I'll go call the other two Conservatives and wish them Merry Christmas.
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Maddows is not ugly. Didn't say she was good looking either. She is an average looking woman that downplays what looks she had. She went with the boyish look like ellen did. She is not trying to attract men---quite the opposite.
We are on a softball forum...softball, like wnba is full of women of all sexualities and wearing dresses and skirts or looking feminine is not  happening. 
This sport is full of women that look and dress like tomboys on purpose. They are not interested in being "cute"...they want to be "great" in their sport and win.
There is a reason skylar diggins marketing wise did better than griner and delle donne who were both picked before her and great talents and led their teams to wnba finals (and championship for griner).
Griner is where she is off of talent. Diggins had entertainers and other athletes pro and college hittin' on her publically her senior year and every tv show from fox news to mtv invited her on and rode the wave. Looks and talent. Looks and talking smack trumps talent. Wally george started it and springer kept it going and oj trial was like peanut butter and choclate mixed with politics and screaming reality tv. It sells. Tv is dominated by reality shows with people yelling and conflict. Chef shows are known for yelling at the contestants.

Trump fit that mold. Americans are tired of being stepped on while being polite and asking if you want grey poupon. Apologizing for eating meat, or trans fat in a greasy burger, or for being a guy.
Let others be offended and go to their safe place. Stand tall and talk tough. Sanders tried to p;au nice and DNC screwed him. RNC tried to screw with trump but he wasn'ty having it as he said and did what he wanted to without them. It is a new age..........in the immortal words of flo...kiss my grits. That is what americans are saying to pc. And tomi is riding it like a surfer.
 

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 They are not interested in being "cute"...
 


Then why are you arguing?

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A few of you get on your anti Mike soapboxes and you really make yourself look like idiots with some of your comments.

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A few of you get on your anti Mike soapboxes and you really make yourself look like idiots with some of your comments.


It's fun to watch though - they get all butthurt when someone dares to question Donald's conservative credentials.

Mikec is a true conservative, much more so than the hottie of the month that can read a TelePrompTer. She makes sure the viagra crowd keeps watching. Probably the same low info crowd that got a semi from Palin.


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In a nutshell Durden; That's pretty much why the Republicans can't get anything accomplished.  The libtards stick together pretty much while the 'conservatives' backbite and back stab each other.
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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In a nutshell Durden; That's pretty much why the Republicans can't get anything accomplished.  The libtards stick together pretty much while the 'conservatives' backbite and back stab each other.


I generally agree.

However, as we know, any criticism of trump evokes something deep inside trumpies.  It's unnatural.

As for Tomi and the rest of them - whatever.  I've got 800 channels.

Sorry for having the nerve to say I'm not a fan, and throw your whole thread off track.
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It's fun to watch though - they get all butthurt when someone dares to question Donald's conservative credentials. Mikec is a true conservative, much more so than the hottie of the month that can read a TelePrompTer. She makes sure the viagra crowd keeps watching. Probably the same low info crowd that got a semi from Palin.


Thanks.

I'd like to see him apologize for blaming Bush for 9/11, but that'll never happen.

Anyways, I'll let KIR get back to his thread.
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See, you still don't get it. Nobody here is defending the GOP establishment and I would think you know they do not equal conservatism just like Trump does not. But carry on
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