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mikec

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Woody - I agree with your first post above.  The first time we went to Washington DC for vacation, our first stop was the National Archives to visit the Declaration and the Constitution, then Arlington to see a small part of the price paid (including a tour of Robert E Lee's home), then the "fun stuff" that DC offers. 

After that first trip, the kids set the agenda - and they kept it the same.  We have been up there about 6 times for vacation, and it's always the same.  The oldest took her fiancé there in Feb.  He had never been.  She followed the script with him too.

As for King's Mountain - the inlaws are from right near there in SC.  That is a generally obscure, but critically important, site.  Thanks for sharing it with the folks.

edit:  the South is full of small King's Mountain type sites.  The bitterness and bloodshed between Patriots and Loyalists was really bad.  It was extremely violent - maybe more so in terms of violence on civilians than the Civil War.

You may have read before, but my kin (the one who came over on the first ship from England) had his home burned down by the British.  Then Sherman burned his grandson's home on the same site.

100 or 200 years isn't that long when you're hearing stories from family old-timers.  Unfortunately, those folks were gone when my kids came along.

We may be the last generation.
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One of my greatest memories was touring Gettysburg.
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Poor Tomi.  Guess there's no room for independent thinkers in Glenn Beck's world

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/03/26/report-tomi-lahren-banned-permanently-from-theblaze.html

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Poor Tomi.  Guess there's no room for independent thinkers in Glenn Beck's world

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/03/26/report-tomi-lahren-banned-permanently-from-theblaze.html


She'll be better by leaving him behind

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Little slow to the game D.C. Did this just come through on your timeline of talking points
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TheNarrator

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Poor Tomi.  Guess there's no room for independent thinkers in Glenn Beck's world

http://www.thedailybeast.com/cheats/2017/03/26/report-tomi-lahren-banned-permanently-from-theblaze.html


How many outwardly pro-life people are there at the Daily Kos?  I know you won't respond, but at least try and think about these things before you post and make a fool out of yourself.
mikec

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One of my greatest memories was touring Gettysburg.


Gettysburg is cool.  I liked Antietam also.

The National Battlefield Park near me is very similar to Gettysburg.
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http://www.allenbwest.com/matt-palumbo/just-beck-fires-back-tomi
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
mikec

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Yep, Tomi was keeping the Blaze afloat, and she is better known than Beck.

Next, she'll be telling us what it means to be Conservative, and how we don't fit her mold.  Oh wait, nm.
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Yep, Tomi was keeping the Blaze afloat


yep

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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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yep


chum in the water, bait taken.  Just giving it a little free spool before setting the hook.
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and she is better known than Beck.



yep

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whozbeck?
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DC v Hellar - Landmark Supreme Court case established that "protects an individual right to keep and bear arms", that right was "premised on the private use of arms for activities such as hunting and self-defense, the latter being understood as resistance to either private lawlessness or the depredations of a tyrannical government (or a threat from abroad)." 
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Danger Will Robinson BeckBots approaching.
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chum in the water, bait taken.  Just giving it a little free spool before setting the hook.

Still spooling?

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DC v Hellar - Landmark Supreme Court case established that "protects an individual right to keep and bear arms", that right was "premised on the private use of arms for activities such as hunting and self-defense, the latter being understood as resistance to either private lawlessness or the depredations of a tyrannical government (or a threat from abroad)." 
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Chum is not used with a spool, it is thrown out of a huge bucket.  bluedog knows how chum is used
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"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

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Chumming

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mikec

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After you create a chum slick, you throw out a baited hook into the slick.

Unfortunately, chum slicks bring predators, which can ruin your fishing.  Grouper disgorge their stomach contents on the way up, which makes a big slick, which brings sharks, which means no more grouper.

So, chum only works until it ruins everything.
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So, chum only works until it ruins everything.


got that right

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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What really ruins everything is old-guard ultra-conservative Republicans gorging their pockets with easy cash and running the country...........

A coupla examples - Bush, Sr. and Bush, Jr............
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Don't forget about the Romney's murdering people in Benghazi and the Bush's and Clinton's running drugs!
bluedog

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How can we forget when you keep reminding us?
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Don't forget about the Romney's murdering people in Benghazi and the Bush's and Clinton's running drugs!

I did not like Romney before, because he was a loser.  Now we have this!

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DC v Hellar - Landmark Supreme Court case established that "protects an individual right to keep and bear arms", that right was "premised on the private use of arms for activities such as hunting and self-defense, the latter being understood as resistance to either private lawlessness or the depredations of a tyrannical government (or a threat from abroad)." 
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Quote:
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After you create a chum slick, you throw out a baited hook into the slick.

Unfortunately, chum slicks bring predators, which can ruin your fishing.  Grouper disgorge their stomach contents on the way up, which makes a big slick, which brings sharks, which means no more grouper.

So, chum only works until it ruins everything.

The bait on this one was super weak.  No one remembers who Beck even was.  He will go down remembered only as that guy that had a mental breakdown on air, and stuck his face in a bowl full of Flamin Hot Cheetos.  

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DC v Hellar - Landmark Supreme Court case established that "protects an individual right to keep and bear arms", that right was "premised on the private use of arms for activities such as hunting and self-defense, the latter being understood as resistance to either private lawlessness or the depredations of a tyrannical government (or a threat from abroad)." 
mikec

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To you, maybe.

I am not a Beck fan per se, but to think that Tomi is a bigger media entrepreneur than Beck is is a joke.  Maybe some day, but now.

Beck's breakdown was years ago, BTW, about the time he left TV.
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How can we forget when you keep reminding us?


Really?  That's all you got?

Weak and sad.
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I did not like Romney before, because he was a loser.  Now we have this!


I thought it was because he was Mormon?
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I thought it was because he was Mormon?

Nope.  Not for me at least.  I am Catholic, well raised Catholic.  Parents related with me thoughts and experiences when jfk was elected.  How many in the country thought Catholics would arm revolt and only wanted the presidency to control the army. 

I do have concerns about the Mormon religion.  Their direct teachings are a bit strange, like multiple levels of heaven, etc. but I do not care about any of that.

My issue with Mormon religion is more on the retail lower level.  It is common in the tech industry in western states, but does not seem to happen in silicon valley at all.  In order to achieve higher orders of heaven in Mormon religion one of the things you are tasked to do is to get other mormons jobs.   It is very common for a mormon to achieve a certain level in an organization and then you see them pushing the other non-mormons out to bring in other mormons.  This is often done with guys that have less talent.  

Romney being president would have zero real impact down to any level I cared about.  it seems obvious anyone hired as president is going to bring in fellow like thinkers, so that is not a concern either.  

I did not primary for Romney, but once he was candidate I sure voted for him.  It was clear that if your focus was lower taxes, Romney was heck of a lot better than Obummer. 

The Catholics that lived about 70 miles from my very catholic hometown were the ones that organized and went over and killed Joseph Smith back in the day.  The Catholics were warring back and forth with the Protestants the the mormons just happened to get caught up in things. 


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Mormons want to control our Government............That is their goal...........

There's a faction called the "Mormon mafia" which is a big part of the CIA............ 
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Uh oh, maybe it's not all peachy in Tomi world.....

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Before she ever set foot on ABC’s “The View,” Tomi Lahren had used up all her good will (and then some) at The Blaze, the conservative media company founded by Glenn Beck.

That’s according to several sources with direct knowledge of the situation, all of whom spoke with The Daily Caller on condition of anonymity, citing the sensitivity of the issue. Lahren is currently suing, and being sued by, Beck and The Blaze, and the two parties recently agreed to a mutual non-disparagement agreement that legally prohibits The Blaze employees from publicly criticizing Lahren, and vice versa. The Blaze sent employees a reminder on Tuesday night to comply with the non-disparagement agreement.

Lahren’s recent appearance on ABC’s “The View” where she referred to pro-life conservatives as “hypocrites” was just the final straw in her relationship with The Blaze, the sources said. The Blaze pulling from the air the controversial 24-year-old host was a long time coming, due as much to her behavior off camera as on.

Lahren, who did not reply to TheDC’s interview request, treated staffers and floor workers with contempt and disdain, seemed to enjoy provoking her colleagues and ultimately appeared to care more about causing controversy — whether good or bad — than she cared about being honest, sources said.

She often butted heads with other BlazeTV personalities and seemed jealous when others received public attention. Lahren seemed to especially dislike BlazeTV host Dana Loesch, and would avoid her at all costs — even refusing to enter the makeup room if Loesch was present. Loesch declined to comment for this story.

Lahren and another popular BlazeTV host, Lawrence Jones, often butted heads as well. After the Dallas police shooting last summer, Lahren compared Black Lives Matter to the KKK, writing on Twitter: “Meet the new KKK, they call themselves ‘Black Lives Matter’ but make no mistake their goals are far from equality.”

Lahren and Jones, who is black, were seen heatedly arguing about the statement, which Lahren eventually deleted from Twitter.

Jones, who declined to comment for this story, wasn’t the only one rubbed the wrong way by Lahren’s comments about black people, sources said. Several others at the company grew irritated with her over the way she handled racial issues.

“Even when you wanted to give her a chance, she would go out of her way” to make people mad, one person said. “It’s like she got a high off of creating a hostile work environment.”

One of the biggest problems with Lahren, sources said, was that she didn’t seem to care what people were saying about her as much as she cared that they were talking about her. “At least they’re talking about me,” sources quoted her as regularly saying.

Lahren became more polarizing as she grew in fame and realized she could go viral by being divisive, sources said. “She was always trying to chase that next million-view video,” one said.

Despite her success on Facebook, Lahren’s show performed relatively poorly on live TV, struggling to keep regular viewers and advertisers, the sources said. The Blaze’s countersuit against Lahren noted that “several advertisers reported that Lahren was difficult to work with and that their advertisements performed poorly on her show, which resulted in lower than expected advertising support for Lahren.”

Off camera, Lahren was a “diva” who expected royal treatment to the extreme, sources said.

Lahren demanded staffers heat up her “butt warming pad” in the microwave before every show, those sources said. “She expected to be treated like a queen,” one source said, referring to Lahren’s butt pad demands as “dehumanizing” to her staff, adding: “To demand they warm your butt pad is absurd.”

Lahren was known for yelling and cursing at staff and makeup artists. She often singled out one of the two makeup artists working for The Blaze, yelling at and embarrassing her, even in front of guests. It got to the point where Lahren refused to work with that makeup artist.

Lahren’s decision to share her wardrobe budget — $40,000 — in an interview with The Ringer alienated many of her staff, sources said, in part because she was contractually forbidden from disclosing that information, and in part because some of her crew made less than Lahren’s entire clothing budget.

Many of those same complaints were echoed in The Blaze’s countersuit, filed in Texas court on Monday.

“Lahren’s treatment of the floor crew was inappropriate and unprofessional, constantly complaining about everything including but not limited to lighting, room temperature, editing, shooting, directing, etc,” the countersuit states. “Lahren was divisive and created conflicts with other media personalities at TheBlaze.”

The countersuit notes that “Lahren would not work with one of two full time make-up artists, which resulted in a report to TheBlaze’s human resources department.”

Lahren’s work ethic was also problematic, sources said, and she would often refuse to work morning hours.

“She’s just not a pro and has ambition above her skill set and attitude,” another source said. “She created a toxic atmosphere and was not easy for people to work with.”

As a result, she drove more and more people at The Blaze against her.

“Over the last year there have been a ton of stories about TheBlaze based on anonymous sources within TheBlaze, many of which have not been flattering to the company. And yet, I’ve not seen a single story about anonymous sources within TheBlaze who say that Tomi is a really nice person who is being treated unfairly,” yet another source told TheDC. “Wonder why that is?”

Before her appearance on “The View,” Lahren had been a vocal abortion critic. In her appearance on “The View,” Lahren said, “I am a constitutional, y’know, someone that loves the Constitution. I’m someone that’s for limited government. So I can’t sit here and be a hypocrite and say I’m for limited government but I think the government should decide what women do with their bodies.”

Lahren’s statement, The Blaze’s countersuit said, “not only diverged dramatically from her previous public positions but also effectively called many of TheBlaze’s employees, viewers, and readers hypocrites.” In a December segment two months prior, Lahren referred to abortion supporters as “baby-killers.”Lahren has claimed she was taken off-air because she was pro-choice, but she isn’t the only prominent, pro-choice female host The Blaze has employed. Political commentator Amy Holmes worked at The Blaze for years as an openly pro-choice woman. After Beck was criticized for pulling Lahren off-air, Holmes came to his defense. “My open pro-choice views were never an issue for [Glenn Beck] who hired me to help launch the network,” she wrote on Twitter.

One key difference between Lahren and Holmes, according to one source familiar with the situation: “Amy Holmes was honest.”



Read more: http://dailycaller.com/2017/04/19/exclusive-the-inside-story-of-how-tomi-lahren-flamed-out-at-the-blaze/#ixzz4etZpHARd

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