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aarong3000

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Yeah, it’s sad that a player had to die for all of this stuff to get exposed to the public and for these people to finally get punished for all of their bullying and abuse.

Like I said last night, if you are a former or current player that has experienced bullying by any coach at this university, now is the time to speak up and to make it public!
slc1991

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We did speak to the Diamondback reporter. Several girls and families did. Ignored once again.
aarong3000

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Yeah, the diamondback and the Maryland athletic department are connected sic1991. It’s the campus newspaper. They wanna maintain their good relationship with the AD and the administration. They would NEVER put out something like this.

A lot of the big time sport publications are talking about Maryland right now. Maybe reaching out to them will be the better option!
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Yeah, the diamondback and the Maryland athletic department are connected sic1991. It’s the campus newspaper. They wanna maintain their good relationship with the AD and the administration. They would NEVER put out something like this.

A lot of the big time sport publications are talking about Maryland right now. Maybe reaching out to them will be the better option!


Deadspin absolutely would. I have connections at a variety of publications who I met at mizzou’s journalism school and from living in NYC for three years after. There are absolutely writers who would tell your story.

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musftblfan

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The thing is, it needs to be told correctly. And that would require a lot of mature reporting. It’s not something that should be rushed, but given that this season could bring any number of unexpected results, possibly adverse to the student athlete, it’s a shame something hasn’t been written yet.
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aarong3000

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It seems that when this stuff comes out (Baylor everything, Auburn softball, Maryland football) it is always a big publication that breaks the story (ESPN, deadspin, etc). It takes a person or a company with zero university affiliation to get the full story out. It looks like Deadspin has picked up the Maryland football story also. College Park is going to be a madhouse next week!
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TerpAlum is saying to use the death of a football player to push for the ouster of a softball coach she has a personal problem with. Man that’s a new low for you guys.

I could only image what you would be saying if there were things going on that weren’t going on at pretty much every other program.
aarong3000

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It’s all about exposing the same type of bullying and player neglect that is going on with both programs dude. Nobody is trying to use his death to get somebody fired. People are trying to prevent future tragedies from happening!
TruDat

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Narrator, you are missing the point. The "Culture" at Maryland, or lack of it starts in the AD's office. Anderson was a complete joke. He leaves for some unknown reason and the job is left vacant. Then they hire a guy with a criminal past. He cannot be a good leader with his level of baggage. So what you get is a department that has been devoid of competent leadership for a long time. Unfortunately it took a tragedy to make people understand the shortcomings there. If people start marching in the Administration with new JW stories, her rear end won't withstand it now.
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It seems that when this stuff comes out (Baylor everything, Auburn softball, Maryland football) it is always a big publication that breaks the story (ESPN, deadspin, etc). It takes a person or a company with zero university affiliation to get the full story out. It looks like Deadspin has picked up the Maryland football story also. College Park is going to be a madhouse next week!


Don't hold your breath on ESPN. They did such a fine job on the debacle which is UNC Athletics. I guess when the CEO is a drug abusing Alumni things get overlooked. 

God forbid Coach K farts though would be a Special Report on Sportscenter.
aarong3000

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Thank you TruDat!
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What’s funny is your crews complete lack of understanding of college athletics.

You actually have a good ad now - maybe he can clean things up. But no one outside of you three cares about softball.
aarong3000

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I bet all of the players (former and current), their families and the fans that go to the games care about softball. That is way more than us three. If you don't care about softball, why are you on this site? Why are you on this subject thread?
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Let me rephrase - Maryland softball.

There are those that care, but the number is astoundingly lower than you think it is. And the things that go on at Maryland go on a lot of places. It’s just fun to hear the constant b1tching.
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I doubt that all of this stuff that is happening at Maryland goes on at a lot of places. When things like this happen at other places, people actually get fired and punished!
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I doubt that all of this stuff that is happening at Maryland goes on at a lot of places. When things like this happen at other places, people actually get fired and punished!


that is adorable. 

and naive
aarong3000

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Well Durkin has been just placed on administrative leave. Looks like he is on his way out as coach. This athletic department is going to be in for a long, rough ride!
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Evans is a complete waste of space. The fact that he suckered Loh into actually hiring him, against the protest of some very big donors speaks volumes to how out of touch Loh actually is. And the email sent from Evans this afternoon is laughable.

“The safety and well-being of our student-athletes is our highest priority. These alleged behaviors are not consistent with the values I expect all of our staff to adhere to and we must do better.”

Evans is no stranger to credible, documented, numerous violations by several coaches on both football and softball teams! Leadership starts at the top and thus far UMD is a corrupt, self serving mess. With the student athlete wellbeing at the absolute bottom of the barrel.

Look, I get it......no one but us “select few” care about Maryland softball. But as a parent of one of the girls who made it through, despite JW’s best attempt to run her off, I will NEVER just let it go. I will never stop warning others considering the absolute dumpster fire that is UMD softball and the athletic department.

My thoughts and prayers are with the McNair family. RIP
aarong3000

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I almost laughed reading his statement Alwaysaterp. He is talking about the safety and well being of the student athletes is our highest priority, etc, etc. He cannot talk his way out of this mess. Heads are about to roll!
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Evans is a complete waste of space. The fact that he suckered Loh into actually hiring him, against the protest of some very big donors speaks volumes to how out of touch Loh actually is. And the email sent from Evans this afternoon is laughable.




So to "be in touch..." Maryland should have consulted 'big donors' as some sort of Ad Hoc Human Resource Office? Maybe that line of thinking IS the problem. 
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Pray tell stalker-narrator just what my 'personal problem' is with the softball coach? I have no kids on the team, I played a long time ago, and I have talked to her twice?

The softball trainers/coaches have the same attitude and protocols towards the players that the football trainers/coaches do. Coaching by humiliation and physical boot camp. Yeah, I have a problem with that, having been up close and personal with the damage caused to about, where are we now, 10-12 softball players?! That's my 'personal' problem with both Watten and Wright. We started something great and built the program. Now it is trashed by the people supposed to be the adults and in charge.


aarong3000

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I have no personal issue with the coach either. I’m just a longtime fan of the program. I’ve been going to the games ever since my senior year at Maryland (2010). I’ve seen this program at its high and now I’ve seen it at its all time low.

We are just fans of the program that want to see things turn around for the better, on and especially off of the field. It’s about time that somebody actually looks out for the players that are on this team because it’s obvious that nobody has been doing that at this university!
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Generalizations like that are simply false and completely unfair to the many people that do care, and believe me there are many of them. Don’t let the few bad apples ruin the reputation of everyone on campus. There are some amazing people within the Athletic Department at Maryland and even more on the academic side!!!!!!
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Pray tell stalker-narrator just what my 'personal problem' is with the softball coach? I have no kids on the team, I played a long time ago, and I have talked to her twice?

The softball trainers/coaches have the same attitude and protocols towards the players that the football trainers/coaches do. Coaching by humiliation and physical boot camp. Yeah, I have a problem with that, having been up close and personal with the damage caused to about, where are we now, 10-12 softball players?! That's my 'personal' problem with both Watten and Wright. We started something great and built the program. Now it is trashed by the people supposed to be the adults and in charge.




You only have to go to one game to see it. We took my HS daughter to a game in 2017 and my husband still talks about how badly the coach acted, yelling at the girls, and this was in front of everyone in the stands. After witnessing my daughter play D1 ball last year, I can say there are places that aren't run like MD. Her college also had good trainers that cared for their athletes and didn't shame them. They would call them out, if they weren't doing the work, but not in the manor described at UMD. As a matter of fact, another program FAU just benefited by getting one of those trainers, so I know of another program with great trainers.
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“So to "be in touch..." Maryland should have consulted 'big donors' as some sort of Ad Hoc Human Resource Office? Maybe that line of thinking IS the problem.”

Outofzone also out of touch. Your AD and President absolutely should be in good with your big donors. Where do you think the money comes from!? Who is playing the bills? It’s naive to think otherwise. And since Evans hiring, there has been plenty lost and with the latest news, plenty more will go away until changes are made.

My point being, the email sent to the student athlete families was a weak attempt to cover his already over exposed a**!! This goes far beyond softball, obviously! And as I am constantly reminded, “no one really cares” about the softball team or the girls whose lives were blown to bits by this circus and the abuse of power from the top all the way down. But rather than spew the “get over it” or “this happens everywhere” lines, please remind yourself of the topic you keep clicking on, reading AND then deciding to take time to comment on! I will say again, this was my kid! This happened to my family! And I don’t know what kind of parent you are, but in my house, under my roof....I protect my kids and teach them to stand up for what is right and there is good in the world! So, until changes are made and JW comes clean or is gone, I will continue to click on the MARYLAND SOFTBALL topic and comment to keep the topic relevant and speak up against others who don’t know better.
aarong3000

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Great post Alwaysaterp. Just ignore those people, they always try to post something to steer away from what we are talking about on here. Despite what they say, a lot of people care about what is happening on this team. I will be right there with you keeping this topic thread going until things change for this program!
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The parents who have or had girls on Maryland's softball team know the absolute truth. Alwaysaterp is telling it like it is. Evans is a loser. Anderson was just as bad. JW should have been set straight when all of this nonsense started. I have friends with connections to this team and they all know how bad it is. It's not a secret but it's in a "who cares" mode now. Should donors be consulted on a hiring? You damn right they should. If you want their money they might want a say. That's how it works. If any of you reading this was putting up their cash and MD hires someone who does not have your values, then you might stop giving. The donors are like customers no matter what it sounds like. Please your customers and you can make money.
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I believe this is true. A mountain cabin for a retreat. My daughter was there.
Also, the Main family has provided lots of insight/plans for improvements of the facilities, batting cages, etc. JW will not bite that hand.


All true
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We did speak to the Diamondback reporter. Several girls and families did. Ignored once again.


I think it is time to reconnect with the DIAMONDBACK REPORTER - he has all the information.
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Narrator, you are missing the point. The "Culture" at Maryland, or lack of it starts in the AD's office. Anderson was a complete joke. He leaves for some unknown reason and the job is left vacant. Then they hire a guy with a criminal past. He cannot be a good leader with his level of baggage. So what you get is a department that has been devoid of competent leadership for a long time. Unfortunately it took a tragedy to make people understand the shortcomings there. If people start marching in the Administration with new JW stories, her rear end won't withstand it now.



Agree TruDat - A fish rots from the head.
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