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BigTenSoftball

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She has a lot of commitments on one of the Wagner's team out of Maryland. But other than the pitcher, that team is very average.
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She has a lot of commitments on one of the Wagner's team out of Maryland. But other than the pitcher, that team is very average.


For this year or future commits?
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Does anybody know if she even tried to recruit players within a 500 mile radius of the State of Maryland? 

Because that means anything regarding talent

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How many years does Wright have left on her contract? Is there a chance she comes back in 2019 if she wins 10-15 games again?
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For this year or future commits?


19's and 20's
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Attached are the recruiting classes and rankings

https://www.flosoftball.com/articles/5059246-top-2018-college-recruiting-classes

Maryland is at 71. As memory serves me, only 64 teams get into the NCAA tournament. So is Maryland recruiting itself permanently out of the tournament?
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19's and 20's


That's positive.

Blake Miller mostly ignored (literally) his own back yard while at UVA. He now works as an unpaid, volunteer, asst. Coach with the New Mexico under 14 Juvy Penal League. Current Coach Hardin is all over the High School games in Va. Riley/Longwood, Dean/JMU won a truckload of games recruiting in their back yard. Va Weslyan, D3 2017 National Champions out of Beach area has heavy local presence, Christopher Newport and Randolph Macon, both D3 powers..same type roster. Duke, UNC, NC State all recruit Va kids. 

So I can see why Wright would ignore her backyard...especially Maryland/Northern Va area. All those studs are heading out of town to. 

Then you have one of the finer Coaches in Jen McIntyre @ UCONN. She makes a serious effort to recruit the Mid Atlantic but has trouble getting kids to go to the Northeast. 

Univ Md, Big Ten, major college..crazy she isn't trying to get more kids interested. Maybe I'm missing something.
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The Virginia pipeline is far more rich than Maryland. Not even close. Julie Wright should be focusing in a large way to get those kids. Longwood would destroy Maryland and 95% of their kids are from Virginia. But after 2 recruiting seasons at Maryland you get no one from the area.
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The Virginia pipeline is far more rich than Maryland. Not even close. Julie Wright should be focusing in a large way to get those kids. Longwood would destroy Maryland and 95% of their kids are from Virginia. But after 2 recruiting seasons at Maryland you get no one from the area.


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Attached are the recruiting classes and rankings

https://www.flosoftball.com/articles/5059246-top-2018-college-recruiting-classes

Maryland is at 71. As memory serves me, only 64 teams get into the NCAA tournament. So is Maryland recruiting itself permanently out of the tournament?


Fortunately for MD Flo ranked recruiting classes are absolutely meaningless, for anything really, but particularly when it comes to qualifying for the NCAA tourney.  This list is dated Dec, 2016 so it doesn't account for all the decommits, recommits, injuries, kids dropped for partying at social media covered events, etc that have taken place since.  A lot of those teams from around 40 on only have 1 Flo ranked player who's movement would completely shake up the rankings.  It's not just you TruDat, all these other threads are comparing their NLI signing class with Flo rankings which seems beyond ridiculous to me.  Before someone states that they get the top 10 percent right I'd just say if I saw a future LeBron James playing basketball in 8th grade I wouldn't expect anyone to praise my brilliance for predicting his future success.

UMD should get more MD kids than they do.  It's a very desirable school for MD residents as there are not a lot of strong in-state schools to choose from.  Va is more heavily populated than MD so it does have more softball talent but MD does have it's share of quality players.  As previously mentioned, there is a Wagners (MD & Fla based travel team) that has several UMD commits from '19 on.  The most notable is pitcher Courtney Wyche, who is 6'0 and to look at her you might think her father was a former NFL tight end.  She was injured as of a couple of weeks ago (I don't think seriously but not sure) so I haven't seen her in a couple of years but she needs a very good pitching coach in college to reach her potential as she had command issues last time I saw her pitch.  Plenty of velocity though. 


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"UMD should get more MD kids than they do.  It's a very desirable school for MD residents as there are not a lot of strong in-state schools to choose from.  Va is more heavily populated than MD so it does have more softball talent but MD does have it's share of quality players.  As previously mentioned, there is a Wagners (MD & Fla based travel team) that has several UMD commits from '19 on.  The most notable is pitcher Courtney Wyche, who is 6'0 and to look at her you might think her father was a former NFL tight end.  She was injured as of a couple of weeks ago (I don't think seriously but not sure) so I haven't seen her in a couple of years but she needs a very good pitching coach in college to reach her potential as she had command issues last time I saw her pitch.  Plenty of velocity though." 

Maryland is a very desirable school. Great academics and great location. The softball program has been in poor hands for a long time. The State of Maryland used to produce a lot more top tier talent but that pool has dried up and there are only a handful of D1 caliber players on the travel ball teams. The Florida Wagner's is run very differently from the other 2 teams. They strive and generally look to send players to top 50 programs. The 6 foot pitcher, as I understand it does throw hard but needs a lot of seasoning to be effective in the Big Ten. If she gets better she wouldn't stay on the Wagner's local team. They have very little to offer. If they are the talent pool for Maryland then Maryland needs to look a further south for their recruits.
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Part of the reason for lack of seasoning is they start playing games at 10. I see it year after year, no time to for pitchers to practice and get better, just get through a few innings and on to the next game. (Get pulled when you suck.) Many are throwing 3/day twice a weekend. Just locks in the bad habits, and relying on old skills instead of expanding skills.

HS is a disaster, no one mentoring the pitchers. Left to own devices or to a boot camp coach making one ace throw every bp and every inning. Lots of hurt arms and shoulders.
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I agree Travel ball does not help develop pitchers.  They either throw 2 innings in a showcase as they take their turn or they are in a bracket game and get pulled at the first sign of trouble because the travel coach wants to win every game.
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What I see in travelling to a lot of games is consistent with what TerpAlum and Nextyear are saying. The Floridas and Alabamas get kids who are so skilled and advanced that they come in ready made. But they are the exceptions. All of the other teams have to get kids who may not be as athletically as gifted but could be very good if only they had not come out of a broken travel ball system. The showcase format has weakened the game. Think about the Jenny Finch, Cat Osterman and Monica Abbott timeframe. A much more dominating pitching era. Then you look at the predicament Maryland is in now. They are just going to get a Barnhill or an Ocasio. They aren't really in the hunt for the next tier either, those that end up at the Georgia's and South Carolina's. So in their search for the diamond in the rough, they get kids who need a crash course in a lot of the aspects of pitching. They almost have to mint their own pitching. So then you see them get soundly beaten by a mediocre mid major like Towson or a D2 like Shepherd and the reason is very clear. Tori Tyson needs to take what she brought with her and what she inherited and make pitchers out of them or the results could be disastrous.
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