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outofzone

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She has a lot of commitments on one of the Wagner's team out of Maryland. But other than the pitcher, that team is very average.


For this year or future commits?
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Does anybody know if she even tried to recruit players within a 500 mile radius of the State of Maryland? 

Because that means anything regarding talent

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How many years does Wright have left on her contract? Is there a chance she comes back in 2019 if she wins 10-15 games again?
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For this year or future commits?


19's and 20's
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Attached are the recruiting classes and rankings

https://www.flosoftball.com/articles/5059246-top-2018-college-recruiting-classes

Maryland is at 71. As memory serves me, only 64 teams get into the NCAA tournament. So is Maryland recruiting itself permanently out of the tournament?
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19's and 20's


That's positive.

Blake Miller mostly ignored (literally) his own back yard while at UVA. He now works as an unpaid, volunteer, asst. Coach with the New Mexico under 14 Juvy Penal League. Current Coach Hardin is all over the High School games in Va. Riley/Longwood, Dean/JMU won a truckload of games recruiting in their back yard. Va Weslyan, D3 2017 National Champions out of Beach area has heavy local presence, Christopher Newport and Randolph Macon, both D3 powers..same type roster. Duke, UNC, NC State all recruit Va kids. 

So I can see why Wright would ignore her backyard...especially Maryland/Northern Va area. All those studs are heading out of town to. 

Then you have one of the finer Coaches in Jen McIntyre @ UCONN. She makes a serious effort to recruit the Mid Atlantic but has trouble getting kids to go to the Northeast. 

Univ Md, Big Ten, major college..crazy she isn't trying to get more kids interested. Maybe I'm missing something.
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The Virginia pipeline is far more rich than Maryland. Not even close. Julie Wright should be focusing in a large way to get those kids. Longwood would destroy Maryland and 95% of their kids are from Virginia. But after 2 recruiting seasons at Maryland you get no one from the area.
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The Virginia pipeline is far more rich than Maryland. Not even close. Julie Wright should be focusing in a large way to get those kids. Longwood would destroy Maryland and 95% of their kids are from Virginia. But after 2 recruiting seasons at Maryland you get no one from the area.


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Attached are the recruiting classes and rankings

https://www.flosoftball.com/articles/5059246-top-2018-college-recruiting-classes

Maryland is at 71. As memory serves me, only 64 teams get into the NCAA tournament. So is Maryland recruiting itself permanently out of the tournament?


Fortunately for MD Flo ranked recruiting classes are absolutely meaningless, for anything really, but particularly when it comes to qualifying for the NCAA tourney.  This list is dated Dec, 2016 so it doesn't account for all the decommits, recommits, injuries, kids dropped for partying at social media covered events, etc that have taken place since.  A lot of those teams from around 40 on only have 1 Flo ranked player who's movement would completely shake up the rankings.  It's not just you TruDat, all these other threads are comparing their NLI signing class with Flo rankings which seems beyond ridiculous to me.  Before someone states that they get the top 10 percent right I'd just say if I saw a future LeBron James playing basketball in 8th grade I wouldn't expect anyone to praise my brilliance for predicting his future success.

UMD should get more MD kids than they do.  It's a very desirable school for MD residents as there are not a lot of strong in-state schools to choose from.  Va is more heavily populated than MD so it does have more softball talent but MD does have it's share of quality players.  As previously mentioned, there is a Wagners (MD & Fla based travel team) that has several UMD commits from '19 on.  The most notable is pitcher Courtney Wyche, who is 6'0 and to look at her you might think her father was a former NFL tight end.  She was injured as of a couple of weeks ago (I don't think seriously but not sure) so I haven't seen her in a couple of years but she needs a very good pitching coach in college to reach her potential as she had command issues last time I saw her pitch.  Plenty of velocity though. 


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"UMD should get more MD kids than they do.  It's a very desirable school for MD residents as there are not a lot of strong in-state schools to choose from.  Va is more heavily populated than MD so it does have more softball talent but MD does have it's share of quality players.  As previously mentioned, there is a Wagners (MD & Fla based travel team) that has several UMD commits from '19 on.  The most notable is pitcher Courtney Wyche, who is 6'0 and to look at her you might think her father was a former NFL tight end.  She was injured as of a couple of weeks ago (I don't think seriously but not sure) so I haven't seen her in a couple of years but she needs a very good pitching coach in college to reach her potential as she had command issues last time I saw her pitch.  Plenty of velocity though." 

Maryland is a very desirable school. Great academics and great location. The softball program has been in poor hands for a long time. The State of Maryland used to produce a lot more top tier talent but that pool has dried up and there are only a handful of D1 caliber players on the travel ball teams. The Florida Wagner's is run very differently from the other 2 teams. They strive and generally look to send players to top 50 programs. The 6 foot pitcher, as I understand it does throw hard but needs a lot of seasoning to be effective in the Big Ten. If she gets better she wouldn't stay on the Wagner's local team. They have very little to offer. If they are the talent pool for Maryland then Maryland needs to look a further south for their recruits.
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I agree Travel ball does not help develop pitchers.  They either throw 2 innings in a showcase as they take their turn or they are in a bracket game and get pulled at the first sign of trouble because the travel coach wants to win every game.
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What I see in travelling to a lot of games is consistent with what TerpAlum and Nextyear are saying. The Floridas and Alabamas get kids who are so skilled and advanced that they come in ready made. But they are the exceptions. All of the other teams have to get kids who may not be as athletically as gifted but could be very good if only they had not come out of a broken travel ball system. The showcase format has weakened the game. Think about the Jenny Finch, Cat Osterman and Monica Abbott timeframe. A much more dominating pitching era. Then you look at the predicament Maryland is in now. They are just going to get a Barnhill or an Ocasio. They aren't really in the hunt for the next tier either, those that end up at the Georgia's and South Carolina's. So in their search for the diamond in the rough, they get kids who need a crash course in a lot of the aspects of pitching. They almost have to mint their own pitching. So then you see them get soundly beaten by a mediocre mid major like Towson or a D2 like Shepherd and the reason is very clear. Tori Tyson needs to take what she brought with her and what she inherited and make pitchers out of them or the results could be disastrous.
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Maryland commit.
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Nothing like calling out a 15 yo kid to make yourself feel better.
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And here she is a year later in 2015. The video you posted was from 2014 when she was an 8th grader. Wonder what she looks like in 2017? Looks like from 8th to 9th grade she made a nice jump. Never seen her pitch before but a video from a couple of years ago shows very little.
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I'm not calling out anyone. This is a public video off Youtube. Is it a secret?
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The Maryland recruiting pipeline.

https://www.wagnerssoftball.org/player-profiles1.html
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The Maryland recruiting pipeline.

https://www.wagnerssoftball.org/player-profiles1.html


Wow 5 commits off one team. They may be a strong group but that is unusual.
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Wow 5 commits off one team. They may be a strong group but that is unusual.


Whether this is a strong group or not remains to be seen. But on the surface, if MD is looking to continue competing in the Big 10 as they have been, they're still on track.

For a great example look no further than Va Tech's lovefest over the years with the Williamsburg Starz Gold. Much to be desired. 

It happens more than you might know.
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Just me, but when I see that sort of over-arching reliance on one travel organization, it screams lazy recruiting to me.

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That Wagner's team is decent but not overly "strong."  5 kids going to Maryland, only one of them is legit. No other P5 commits on that team.  Maryland will not crack the top half of the B10 with this kind of recruiting.
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From what I understand, this Wagner's team is low end Gold material. They have the one pitcher that throws hard but is hardly a pitcher yet. That kind of recruiting might have been okay in Idaho, but you're not in mid major land anymore. Take a look at an organization like the New Jersey Intensity and look at their commits vs the Wagner's which pretty much only has MD listed.
http://www.jerseyintensity.com/home/commitments/882417.html
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Tyson is poised for Wright's exodus - 
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You could be right. This is year 3. When this team fails to win 15 games the ax may come. The AD is gone and maybe the replacement might look at the situation differently. Tyson could bring her mentor into MD and make it a family affair.
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It doesn't matter who coaches at Maryland, a few of you live to throw whoever the coach is under the bus.  The sad part is that you are throwing current players under the bus with each of your posts. You claim to be all about the players but its the players you are ultimately attacking.
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If you are one of JW's henchmen, or one of the so called "teammates" that JW used to run off, bully and belittle the others, then I could understand why you would feel that this could be misconstrued as attacking the girls (you). And so be it! But if you are a player or parent of one of the others that suffer/suffered through the hostile environment JW is so adapt at creating, then you know full well that this is not directed at you. Anyone with an ounce of softball knowledge, knows that JW has no business coaching anywhere, let alone the Big Ten! She is completely overmatched and outcoached at every turn. The fact that we are waiting to see if she wins 15 games this season is absolutely hysterical! They will be lucky to get to 15! Her record is a direct reflection of her lack of coaching abilities and an even bigger reflection of her inability to coach up and mentor these young women! The old AD is out, the new (interim) is in and he is FULLY aware of the programs continued circling of the drain. Whether he cares enough to do anything about it remains to be seen! The countdown to season begins.....
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Bob, nobody is throwing the girls under the bus. That's the old fallback position in the world of softball, that you can't say anything for it is ultimately criticizing young women. Yet we can talk all day about Alabama football or Duke basketball, but that's ok because it is guys. Yeah, those players aren't good enough. Period. Is that wrong to say? Otherwise they would not have only won 11 out of 51 games last year. It's a bad team made up of bad players.  And the sad thing is, they won't be coached into being better. It's a fact.
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15 Games is the threshold to keep the job?  What a joke/low expectations.  I sure hope that's not true.  If it is, then, it's embarrassing to say the least and a kick in the teeth to the 8 or so players that were shoved off, not to mention a low bar for the current squad.  Had the coach actually coached/used all the players she pushed out properly, that tiny threshold would likely have already been surpassed.     Pure Comedy!!!!!!


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I hope Tyson isn't thinking she gets the job. I don't want to call over there again......


Really???  Because you can provide such valuable feedback??[rofl]
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Terp you are unhinged
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