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Just_Ask1

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Okay, I'll bite.  You are entitled to you opinion and I respect that.  But I am entitled to disagree and I do.  I don't see how their exodus without making waves is/was good for anyone except themselves.  They were in positions of leadership, privy to information and direction (good or bad) from the coach.  They had first hand knowledge of what went on day to day, game to game, season to season, and whether or not all the allegations were true.  They were the proof so to speak above the average player complaining syndrome.    During that two year period, they not only followed the direction of the coach, but thru their actions (or inaction's from what I understand when it came to certain players), they contributed to the distress of the team as a whole and definitely to the 9 players.  Did they stand up and take issue with the decisions while they were there?  Did they coach everyone to the best of their ability, and promote everyone on the team?  Not according to the posts I've read.  And I'm sure there is more there that's not been said on this board.  Instead, from what I have seen here, they went along with it all - didn't stand up for all the players, or at least not the 9 that left (likely contributed to their individual demise), and knew all along what was going on.  Then jumped ship.  Without helping those that sadly, looked up to them.  How is that right?   

As "assistant coaches" (not two year olds), they had two years of first hand knowledge combined which would  have been plenty to share with administration against the existing regime. (Seems the 9 players that stood up are hands and fist above the assistant coaching title. How is their not coming forward any better then the accusations made against the coach, KB, or the AD).  Coming forward may have saved some of the players from what was endured.  Which to be correct, is awful.    Had they done this, one might surmise that the coach wouldn't be there today, hence some if not all of the 9 would have finished their careers and/or wouldn't be dragging around the proverbial baggage they have now been sadly saddled with.  And yeah, the assistants were part of the saddling process but were out to save their own skin so that took priority.     Yeah, life is tough, but it should never have been this tough for the players.  While I realize this thread is not directed at the assistants personally, and it was not my original intent to belabor it or them, to pretend that they are off the hook is interesting.  That's like saying "oh well, I got mine, so to hell with you".   And I do have an issue with that.   Oh, I get it, par for the course for Maryland.   Nope, not buying it.  They knew, they ignored it for their careers or to save their reputations with their peers at the sacrifice of the players.   That is awful.   They'll  have to live with themselves.  My apologies if this offends you or anyone else, but this is how I see it.  Seems to me that there is somewhat of a double standard in this case.  Especially with Marylands win/lose record, one couldn't argue on behalf of the "other" players, one can only argue that those involved in positions of authority, perceived or otherwise,  either don't see the bigger picture, or don't care.

I’ve personally been very critical of Julie Wight, her coaches and the Md softball administration on this board. I also like to think I'm factual based to the best of my knowledge. Back in the summer, when I was made aware of the coaches leaving I posted it. The information I received about the assistant coaches at that time was, they were good people. They were respected by many of the players on the team. I'm sure not all the players liked them, I'm not naive. I was told they were the voice of reason trying to make a very bad situation better. I understood some of the players even felt the pitching coach could of been a better head coach. This information came via some Md players from another source.                                                                                                                                                                                          I've seen nothing that makes me believe these coaches should be put in the same bucket as Julie Wright. None of us really know how these coaches communicated things on their way out the door to the Md administration. Nor why or how they really left….seriously. My understanding was they Left on their own, but then again lots of people say they quit jobs on their own, but really it's not the case.  Maybe they tried to do the things you say they should of done during the season. Maybe that's why they left without jobs. Maybe they got black balled by other coaches for speaking out. Or just maybe, they were pushed out by Julie Wright for opening their months, just like the players did. Reading this board doesn't give anyone insight to the real details of that whole thing. One thing is for sure they left a Big Ten job for no job at the time. I did heard one is giving lessons or coaching for a Pro league or something, not positive on that. A far stretch from the Big Ten, they got nothing out of all this as far as I'm concerned. know. These are the facts as I know them.                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                                         I think in the most part we agree with the mess and horrible things Julie Wright has done to these players and families. She should not get away with any of this, nor should Kristin Brown. Its, my opinion I've seen nothing that makes me believe these assistant coaches did anything wrong.They did there job and tried to support the players in a terrible situation.                                                                                                                                                                                            Hopefully the new administration comes in and reviews this entire situation and holds Julie Wright accountable  and makes the proper changes.    

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Okay, I'll bite.  You are entitled to you opinion and I respect that.  But I am entitled to disagree and I do.  I don't see how their exodus without making waves is/was good for anyone except themselves.  They were in positions of leadership, privy to information and direction (good or bad) from the coach.  They had first hand knowledge of what went on day to day, game to game, season to season, and whether or not all the allegations were true.  They were the proof so to speak above the average player complaining syndrome.    During that two year period, they not only followed the direction of the coach, but thru their actions (or inaction's from what I understand when it came to certain players), they contributed to the distress of the team as a whole and definitely to the 9 players.  Did they stand up and take issue with the decisions while they were there?  Did they coach everyone to the best of their ability, and promote everyone on the team?  Not according to the posts I've read.  And I'm sure there is more there that's not been said on this board.  Instead, from what I have seen here, they went along with it all - didn't stand up for all the players, or at least not the 9 that left (likely contributed to their individual demise), and knew all along what was going on.  Then jumped ship.  Without helping those that sadly, looked up to them.  How is that right?   

As "assistant coaches" (not two year olds), they had two years of first hand knowledge combined which would  have been plenty to share with administration against the existing regime. (Seems the 9 players that stood up are hands and fist above the assistant coaching title. How is their not coming forward any better then the accusations made against the coach, KB, or the AD).  Coming forward may have saved some of the players from what was endured.  Which to be correct, is awful.    Had they done this, one might surmise that the coach wouldn't be there today, hence some if not all of the 9 would have finished their careers and/or wouldn't be dragging around the proverbial baggage they have now been sadly saddled with.  And yeah, the assistants were part of the saddling process but were out to save their own skin so that took priority.     Yeah, life is tough, but it should never have been this tough for the players.  While I realize this thread is not directed at the assistants personally, and it was not my original intent to belabor it or them, to pretend that they are off the hook is interesting.  That's like saying "oh well, I got mine, so to hell with you".   And I do have an issue with that.   Oh, I get it, par for the course for Maryland.   Nope, not buying it.  They knew, they ignored it for their careers or to save their reputations with their peers at the sacrifice of the players.   That is awful.   They'll  have to live with themselves.  My apologies if this offends you or anyone else, but this is how I see it.  Seems to me that there is somewhat of a double standard in this case.  Especially with Marylands win/lose record, one couldn't argue on behalf of the "other" players, one can only argue that those involved in positions of authority, perceived or otherwise,  either don't see the bigger picture, or don't care.


As you paint these former assistants with THAT brush, you absolutely already KNOW that, for those two years, they NEVER shared their thoughts and concerns within the chain of command?  You KNOW this, but how?

If I were a betting man, at least one, if not both, made those attempts, and returned after the first year based on a some vague promise from the administration.  After a second year, and no action or support from the AD office, they left; frustrated, and having done all they could for the players.  There is/was no upside to poison their own futures and careers by making a more public scene, there are certainly enough individuals already doing that.  Being a whistle blower, no matter how right or necessary, is never a good resume item.

I further suspect that their thoughts and concerns were formally made in writing at some point, and would be a matter of record for a new AD or administrator to reference going forward.  Schools hold exit interviews with coaches, too, not just players.  Being personnel-related, probably not available from an Open Records inquiry (see Auburn .......), but it has to exist, I believe.
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Take a crazy coach and add a clueless Kristen Brown, as suspended AD and former automobile romantic and you get a Maryland softball dumpster fire.
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Take a crazy coach and add a clueless Kristen Brown, as suspended AD and former automobile romantic and you get a Maryland softball dumpster fire.



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As you paint these former assistants with THAT brush, you absolutely already KNOW that, for those two years, they NEVER shared their thoughts and concerns within the chain of command?  You KNOW this, but how?

If I were a betting man, at least one, if not both, made those attempts, and returned after the first year based on a some vague promise from the administration.  After a second year, and no action or support from the AD office, they left; frustrated, and having done all they could for the players.  There is/was no upside to poison their own futures and careers by making a more public scene, there are certainly enough individuals already doing that.  Being a whistle blower, no matter how right or necessary, is never a good resume item.

I further suspect that their thoughts and concerns were formally made in writing at some point, and would be a matter of record for a new AD or administrator to reference going forward.  Schools hold exit interviews with coaches, too, not just players.  Being personnel-related, probably not available from an Open Records inquiry (see Auburn .......), but it has to exist, I believe.


Exit interviews....that's cute. Should they have been done....yes. Were they done, a whole different story. Speaking only of players, the girls that were run off by Wright were NOT offered any such interview. Believe me, they were HOPING someone would talk to them. The seniors that graduated were offered a form to fill out by Kristen Brown, who I am sure filed it the same place you will find this team, THE DUMPSTER!

As for the assistants that left. I do believe that some of the parents were made aware of their departure, before Wright was clued in. What if anything, did they discuss or disclose to the AD. Very little if anything. Yet they were witness to it all. Was being blackballed their motive for keeping quiet??? We will never know.

As for the "interim" AD, Evans.....he is WELL aware of the goings on, both past and present. Will he act in the best interests of the athletes that he is there to represent and protect ....so far, NOTHING! The silence is deafening!
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