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Racist BS.


Jane, when you have an opinion on immigration reform, or other legislation in the House of Representatives, please feel free to offer some type of positive, and rational debate on the topic. If not, go make me sandwich, get me a Shiner Bock, and STFU whilst growed folks are talking.

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Giuliani says Trey Gowdy is drinking the Kool-Aid.


Boehner says there is no Republican Party.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/31/politics/john-boehner-republican-party/index.html

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A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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Giuliani says Trey Gowdy is drinking the Kool-Aid.


Boehner says there is no Republican Party.

https://www.cnn.com/2018/05/31/politics/john-boehner-republican-party/index.html

I hope you start actually believing and relying on Boehner.  Dipsh1t Republicans did that for a while and drilled a massive hole in the ground.

Reality is that if you drank as much as Boehner did last night you would be claiming you had there is no ass on your backside.

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Racist BS.


Drunk AF
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If Boner and McCain are the remnants, the definition, of the republican party, good riddance
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You support Trump, you don't claim anything he says is false, and you don't criticize anything he says.  If you do, you're gone.

As I said previously, those FBI agents probably saved American lives during their service.  They were surely great American Patriots.  However, they didn't like and support Trump so they had to be taken down.  What you did for America is unimportant.  Today it's what you do for President Trump.  Rubio may be next.  Graham, Romney, McConnell, and more may follow soon if they're not extremely careful.

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Obama -  "When I say if you have your plan and you like it, and your doctor has a plan -- or you have a doctor and you like your doctor, that you don't have to change plans, what I'm saying is the government is not going to make you change plans under health reform."

A 2017 opinion poll ranks Reagan and Obama #1 and #2 best Presidents since WWII.


 Trump should be honest with the American people.


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Add Dewey to that list, he provided great service as well.  Until he was taken out by Will
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You support Trump, you don't claim anything he says is false, and you don't criticize anything he says.  If you do, you're gone.

As I said previously, those FBI agents probably saved American lives during their service.  They were surely great American Patriots.  However, they didn't like and support Trump so they had to be taken down.  What you did for America is unimportant.  Today it's what you do for President Trump.  Rubio may be next.  Graham, Romney, McConnell, and more may follow soon if they're not extremely careful.

FBI agents acted illegally, maybe treasonous.  That get's you hung.  Americans value fair elections and do not take lightly someone trying to undermine them using illegal tactics.  

Rubio hurt himself by choosing illegal aliens over Americans.  Silly Rubio, illegals can't vote, well at least not in any great percentages.  There is a lesson in there, you just have to know how to spot it.

I thought McCain died.  

Graham ilkes Trump now.   He jumped out the nevertrump train about 4 months ago, when it rounded the TaxCuts and Nkor corner. 

Romney went the whitehouse and bent the knee to Trump.  He really wants to be a Senator from Utah or some crap.  He donates enough money, he will get it. 

What McConnell did for America?  That one is confusing.  Have you been watching McConnell?  Swampy AF.  McConnell has never, not once serviced America over servicing himself. 


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I thought McCain died.  

Graham likes Trump now.   He jumped out the nevertrump train about 4 months ago, when it rounded the TaxCuts and Nkor corner. 




You are fire today.

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You are fire today.

Combination of things:
- Things are going well in my life.  TaxCut was super sweet for me.
- Dewey seems extra agitated, which makes him come off angry.  That is always fun.
- Having you back, helping on the better threads, especially the Ivanka threads. 

I thought you would like the "If you drank as much a Boehner did last night ..." riff I was laying down.

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Boehner hehehe yea it's gold when the libs hold him up as relevant. You see the pics of him and his red nose hammering Bloody Mary's while speaking at Mackinac the other day?


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Duaine likes McCain, Gowdy, Boehner and Cruz now, quoting them daily now, how awesome.  He's red-pilling for the repubs, he quotes no one from his party, they're all kooks, don't blame him.  Duaine will get no where quoting democrats, I guess he thinks he's bought credibility with his red-pilling.
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"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Boehner hehehe yea it's gold when the libs hold him up as relevant. You see the pics of him and his red nose hammering Bloody Mary's while speaking at Mackinac the other day?


[DeiFOn_XcAEMzfb]

Boehner has an awesome ability to always look drunk, yet in control.  You go baby.

There is a website dedicated to Boehner's Boozing ways.  "Drunk Boehner" 
https://boehnerbooze.wordpress.com/ 
They have an awesome tag line:
"At some point, somebody's has got to say, Enough's enough" 


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Must be an inherited genetic power. The guy can slam down the booze, and still seem in control. That means he is either a super hero, a Russian plant, a functioning alcoholic, or all 3. Nonetheless, give the guy some credit for having a somewhat functional neurological system, and a sliver of liver after such an extended foray in Washington's party town atmosphere. Seriously, the guy must do some serious training to keep it up. I suggest some type of human genome research study be funded with taxpayer dollars on his pickled carcass. Pelosi is next in line.
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Open wide, little Trumpies.  Daddy Donald is here to feed you more lies...  Now swallow......

Just like you've been doing for 3 years now.  Aren't you tired of this garbage yet??? 

Apparently not.....


From the Washington Post -

In the 497 days since he took the oath of office, President Trump has made 3,251 false or misleading claims, according to The Fact Checker’s database that analyzes, categorizes and tracks every suspect statement uttered by the president.

That’s an average of more than 6.5 claims a day.

When we first started this project for the president’s first 100 days, he averaged 4.9 claims a day. But the average number of claims per day keeps climbing as the president nears the 500-day mark of his presidency.

In the month of May, the president made about eight claims a day — including an astonishing 35 claims in his rally in Nashville on May 29.

Among the claims at the rally: He more than tripled the projected savings from repealing Obamacare, and said the individual mandate was unconstitutional even though the Supreme Court, in an opinion written by Chief Justice John G. Roberts Jr., said it passed constitutional muster. He once again falsely said he passed the biggest tax cut in U.S. history, when it’s only in eighth place. He inflated the trade deficit with Mexico. And he offered a long list of false statements about immigration, ranging from mischaracterizing the visa lottery to whether his long-promised wall is being built. (It’s not.) He also twisted the words of Democrats, casting words of sympathy for undocumented immigrants as support for MS-13 gang members.

But perhaps the president’s most astonishing claim in May came on the last day of the month, in the form of a tweet.

"Not that it matters but I never fired James Comey because of Russia! The Corrupt Mainstream Media loves to keep pushing that narrative, but they know it is not true!"

Initially, the White House had said FBI director James B. Comey was fired May 9, 2017, because of his handling of the Hillary Clinton investigation, on the recommendation of Deputy Attorney General Rod J. Rosenstein.

But here’s what Trump himself said to NBC’s Lester Holt just two days after the firing: “I was going to fire Comey knowing there was no good time to do it. And in fact when I decided to just do it, I said to myself, I said, you know, this Russia thing with Trump and Russia is a made-up story, it’s an excuse by the Democrats for having lost an election that they should have won.”

Moreover, the New York Times reported that Trump, in a meeting with Russian officials the day after the firing, said: “I just fired the head of the FBI. He was crazy, a real nut job. I faced great pressure because of Russia. That’s taken off.” Those quotes appeared in a White House document summarizing the meeting.

Our interactive graphic, created with the help of Leslie Shapiro and Kaeti Hinck of The Washington Post’s graphics department, displays a running list of every false or misleading statement made by Trump. We also catalogued the president’s many flip-flops, since those earn Upside-Down Pinocchios if a politician shifts position on an issue without acknowledging that he or she did so.

Trump has a proclivity to repeat, over and over, many of his false or misleading statements. We’ve counted at least 122 claims that the president has repeated at least three times, some with breathtaking frequency.

Almost one third of Trump’s claims — 931 — relate to economic issues, trade deals or jobs. He frequently takes credit for jobs created before he became president or company decisions with which he had no role. He cites his “incredible success” in terms of job growth, even though annual job growth under his presidency has been slower than the last five years of Barack Obama’s term. He also loves to cite unemployment figures, even though he repeatedly said during his campaign that the unemployment rate was phony and could not be trusted.

Not surprisingly, immigration is another source of Trump’s misleading claims, now totaling 379. Nineteen times just in the past three months, for instance, the president has falsely claimed his long-promised border wall with Mexico is being built, even though Congress has denied funding for it.

Misleading claims about taxes — now at 299 — are also a common feature of Trump’s speeches. Seventy-five times, he has made the false assertion that he passed the biggest tax cut in U.S. history.

But moving up the list quickly are claims about the investigation into Russian interference in the 2016 election and whether people in the Trump campaign were in any way connected to it. The president has made 265 statements about the Russia probe, using hyperbolic claims of “worse than Watergate,” “McCarthyism” and, of course, “witch hunt.” He often asserts that the Democrats colluded with the Russians, even though the Democratic National Committee and the Clinton campaign were victims of Russian activities, as emails were hacked and then released via WikiLeaks.


 

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wahahahah.  They counted how many times he said 'witch hunt', and fact checked it.  heheheheh  my sides. 

DC you realize how bad that article you posted is?

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DC no debate bad Republicans. DC postem article from talking points memo. DC only pawn in game of life.
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Question---When Mueller finally 'announces' his findings, and in a drawn-out, convoluted mess, either says 1-Nothingburger on collusion/obstruction, or 2-says the 'trump campaign' had some vague 'dealings' with foreigners before and during the campaign, trump's actions hindered his 'investigation' etc.---isn't it a given that the libs/dewfresh/kazoodc will all scream for impeachment, regardless? Of course they will. Then, when that fails, they will carry on for the next 6 years crying 'illegitimate' president. Yawn. Meanwhile, #MAGA will continue in spite of them. 


Dewey, please pin this post to the top for me, I want to refer to it as we go, thanks in advance for your cooperation buddy.

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Question---When Mueller finally 'announces' his findings, and in a drawn-out, convoluted mess, either says 1-Nothingburger on collusion/obstruction, or 2-says the 'trump campaign' had some vague 'dealings' with foreigners before and during the campaign, trump's actions hindered his 'investigation' etc.---isn't it a given that the libs/dewfresh/kazoodc will all scream for impeachment, regardless? Of course they will. Then, when that fails, they will carry on for the next 6 years crying 'illegitimate' president. Yawn. Meanwhile, #MAGA will continue in spite of them. 


Dewey, please pin this post to the top for me, I want to refer to it as we go, thanks in advance for your cooperation buddy.




Closing in on $17,000,000 spent by the Mueller investigation, and dewey says we can't point out waste in government........

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3 weeks ago you saw all that super hype on muh Mueller.  The reason is that DOJ rules have long stated how they will operate on any case that involves national politics.  They will intentionally go dark for, I think, 3 months. 

So that intense round of back and forth lobs was Mueller attempting to use the DOJ shutdown rules to rush Trump to an interview.  Trump entertained terms but it became clear that Mueller had no position in the negotiation.  So Trump did the no deal.  He was already in position to define Mueller, and now that Mueller has to 'go dark' Trump and team can pound him at will. 



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Mueller knows. He doesn't have to play games, that's why trump is scrambling and screaming no collusion 3-4 times a day. You are all going to feel gullible and foolish. Just the Cohen stuff is going to be interesting.
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Mueller knows. He doesn't have to play games, that's why trump is scrambling and screaming no collusion 3-4 times a day. You are all going to feel gullible and foolish. Just the Cohen stuff is going to be interesting.


Again - what's your end game?  Take down Trump?  Good luck with that and in the event you're successful, you get Pence.

In the meantime, the American public is tired of this BS.  They just want to go about their lives, have jobs, make a decent living, feel safe in their own communities and not be talked down to by liberals in Hollywood and on CNN.  Except for the last part, all of that is happening under Trump.

The more you libs go after Trump, the more you strengthen him.  It's shocking to me that supposedly intelligent people still haven't figured that out.

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Roger that. Libs like dewfresh simply can't accept that their chosen candidate lost. They think if they bounce trump, it will validate their anguish hahaha. What a lost cause. If not trump, then pence. And he will easily win re-election in 2020.
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The problem with liberals is that they govern and communicate purely on emotion.  This means that they can't ever think two, three or four steps ahead.  That is why so often you see liberal policies enacted and then you get some sort of terrible unintended consequence.

"Raise the minimum wage because it's not fair that the poor can't afford things."  Boom, now instead of making $9 an hour, they're making $0 an hour.

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Closing in on $17,000,000 spent by the Mueller investigation, and dewey says we can't point out waste in government........



$17 million to expose a deeply corrupt president? That is money well spent--that is a wise investment to protect our democracy from a dishonest, unethical man who /does not respect/ our democracy or our constitution or the presidency or any of the institutions that have made this country great. 

You wanna talk waste? The Bush administration lied to the American people--lied blatantly--to start a war in Iraq. That conflict has cost the U.S. taxpayers well over $2 TRILLION dollars...and counting. 

The Pentagon wastes several million dollars a day. Nobody wastes money like the defense department. Are you kidding?

As for keeping track of Trump's lies, it's nearly impossible: It's a full-time job and you'd need an Excel spreadsheet, as most everything he says or tweets about, every day, is a lie. He's always been this way. Trump is a sleazy real-estate guy and self-promoter: He's been lying about himself and his business for 40 years: He lives to fraudulently brag about himself--it is all he cares about. He of course bragged about how wealthy he was constantly--throwing out grand numbers. But when it came time to show his tax returns, he refused to show them--still hasn't. He once sued a reporter who wrote a book about him in which he made clear that Trump's claims about his wealth were bull$hit. Depositions were taken, and the writer's lawyers exposed 30 Trump lies in one extended interview. Trump lost the case. Trump has always liked to brag about what a great businessman he is. He's the opposite. He declared bankruptcy four times. If Trump were really a good businessman, there wouldn't be a Russia investigation. There's a Russia investigation because Trump is indebted to Russia mobsters/oligarchs who laundered a lot of dirty money through his company. Trump needed their money to prop up his business because western banks stopped doing business with him long ago. Deutsche Bank is the only major western bank that continued to loan him money--and I'm quite sure they now regret doing so. Trump doesn't even build things anymore--he couldn't get the money needed to finance big construction projects--and that's why his company became more of a licensing operation. As with most mobsters and con men, when you pull back the curtain of deceit, there is a lot less than than he'd claimed. 

He should have spent time in prison, but he's slick, like most con men are--he conned his way into the presidency. 



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That time of the month, Vance?
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Again - what's your end game?  Take down Trump?  Good luck with that and in the event you're successful, you get Pence.

In the meantime, the American public is tired of this BS.  They just want to go about their lives, have jobs, make a decent living, feel safe in their own communities and not be talked down to by liberals in Hollywood and on CNN.  Except for the last part, all of that is happening under Trump.

The more you libs go after Trump, the more you strengthen him.  It's shocking to me that supposedly intelligent people still haven't figured that out.



It is hard to know how this plays out--but be assured that exposing Trump for what he is, deeply corrupt, is a very good thing for the country, no matter your politics. We need to get rid of Trump--he's dishonest, dirty, sinister, a bad person. Democrats and progressives like myself loath Pence: He's like some weird biblical crazy out of the 1800s--he should be the lead villain in The Handmaid's Tale. But with all his christian weirdness he'd be MUCH BETTER than Trump because he seems like an ethical guy--even if it's bizarre to see a christian zealot like him fawning over Trump. But that's why Trump is so bad: He's deeply, deeply corrupt and unethical--AND he gives the christian right all the crazy policies they want because he needs their votes. Mind you, Trump doesn't give a $hit about ANYTHING that the christian right believes in--are you kidding, he's a thrice-married mobster who likes to chase around porn stars--but he and the christian right have a relationship of deeply hypocritical political convenience. At least with Pence we'd get rid of the corruption and the attacks on American institutions and on our democracy. 

Richard Nixon had the personal decency, and the respect for America and its institutions, to resign from the presidency. Trump is neither decent nor respectful of anything but his own power, and so he would tear apart this country before resigning or being forced out of office--even though there isn't a shadow of doubt that he's obstructed justice, for starters--and we'll probably see collusion, too.  I mean, he's been practically openly obstructing justice on the Russian investigation since it started. He hasn't even tried to hide it. I mean, look at him: He denigrates his own attorney general, attacks the FBI, attacks Mueller, latches onto various conspiracies that have no validity. The real problem is that the Republican Party has become pretty damn corrupt itself; that is why a lot of Republicans hide their eyes and still support him--at least superficially. A lot of Republicans hate Trump--but I don't think enough Republicans in the Senate would vote to impeach him, but maybe: We'll have to see what the Mueller Report ends up saying. I don't think it's going to paint a pretty picture of Donald Trump, that's for sure. The other problem with taking down Trump is that there exists today this large right-wing propaganda network--lots of crackpots on the radio and TV--who like to pretend that Trump is OK or pretend that he's no difference or worse than the Democrats, which is stupid and totally untrue. And so they create this alternative reality--mostly based on conspiracy nonsense and falsehoods--that conservative common folk latch onto, as we see on this board. There were very few right-wing media crazies when Nixon was president, and so the country was able to remove a corrupt man from the presidency. That won't be so easy now, with all the crazies. 

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The only never-ending emotion in this Country seems to come from the angry Right.  The President should just do his job.  Instead there is non-stop complaining about the press, Democrats, and the Mueller investigation.  Every day the Right is crying how somebody is treating them unfairly.  It's getting very old.  Just do the job you were elected to do and let others do their job.

It's not about getting rid of Trump and getting Pence in return.  This is about foreign adversaries messing with this Country.  Take a look as they're getting exactly what they wanted.  This Country is being torn apart by the divisive tactics of others.  We're at each other's throats and our enemies must love it.  If we don't expose this interference for Americans to see, it may do damage we can never repair. 

Benghazi went on forever.  The Right is not worried about money we're spending.  They want Mueller to stop his investigation and I just can't figure out why.  We need to show the American people how our enemies are creating and pushing false stories for us to absorb and battle over.  I recently asked members who specifically convinced them about certain fake news stories and they couldn't think of the name.  These stories are usually fabricated by our enemies and pushed via websites, media celebrities, and other means and become part of the political landscape.  I'm waiting for a website or fake story to come out pushing an accusation that Mueller was involved in molestation or assault on women.  I suppose sometimes it's a little more difficult to just fabricate such information.

The Right should stop complaining about investigations and move forward with governing.  Stop cabinet members from spending millions on personal items.  Stop their lawyers from practicing the pay to play game and stop raking the AG over the coals.  It's time President Trump run the Country and stop bemoaning all the events around him.  


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Fun to see dewillie step on one of kaplooey's rants hahaha.
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Piss and bemoaning.
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