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bluedog

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Pabar, sit-up and lap-up Netanyahu's speech like a good puppy dog.......Let him control your strings and move your mouth since you so like being a puppet for him..... 
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blue - I have to say, I may not agree with half of what you say, but one has to admire your consistency.
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Woody, a short Bible course lesson for you.... 


There are two meanings of "Jew" in the Bible.....There is the physical "Jew", and the spiritual "Jew"......The Creator uses parallels of this to show the disobedience of the physical Jews and the relevance of the spiritual Jews who obey Him and are His chosen people, who will have eternal life........
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Am I the only one seeing the irony of someone steeped in dogma calling others lap dogs and puppets?

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I see it now. Bluedog come clean,

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bluedog, just turn your back on Israel, and continue on your path.
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Can the POTUS unilaterally approve a "deal" with Iran?  Wouldn't this have to take the form of a treaty, which has to be ratified by the Senate?

What about sanctions?  Doesn't Congress have to lift those?

I may be wrong on these points, but I thought that was it.
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Petulance by the dem congress.
I guess joisey can spin that one as well

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EarlyGrayce

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Netanyahu is right to be gravely concerned about Iran's stated goal to wipe Israel off the map. Iran is one of many countries who have that goal. However, it is not realistic to want to force Iran to abandon Nuclear technology. That will never happen. What would we tell another country if they told the US to abandon Nuclear technology? GFY.
Netanyahu is up for re-election this month, hence the dog and pony show today. Yes he is concerned about Iran, but it's time for Israel to take care of their own problems. They have 100+ Nuke warheads and a very capable Air Force. He openly admits that any 'agreement' with Iran is never honored by Iran. The entire world knows that. This is going to end with someone having to hammer Iran. That needs to be Israel, not the US.

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Why would we make a deal with a country that is the leading sponsor of terrorism in the world?  Having access to nuclear material is a terrorist's dream.  So, we would authorize this Islamic terrorist-sponsoring state to have nuclear materials?

Why would we do that?
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Why would we make a deal with a country that is the leading sponsor of terrorism in the world?  Having access to nuclear material is a terrorist's dream.  So, we would authorize this Islamic terrorist-sponsoring state to have nuclear materials?

Why would we do that?


Mike, with all due respect, IMO NOBODY in this world cares who we (The USA) 'authorize' to do or not do something.....except Americans who still think that we are the center of the Universe. Second, the truth is, Iran already has nuclear material, and again, IMO, already has a few Nuke bombs. Probably dirty and small, but still potent. I worry about our leadership having to pretend that 'deals' can be struck with middle east lunatics. I personally don't need that 'show' to make me feel better. I wish we could just say to Israel, "Look. You are in a tough spot, geographically, philosophically, and politically. Many countries want to wipe you out. Many countries have the capability to do so. If you don't act now, (and of course suffer the fallout (pardon the pun) from the whiners of this world,) then you are screwed." 

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There it is mike
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^^^^ Utterly disconnected from reality ^^^^

Iran cares. They'd love a deal with Obama that allows them to continue their nuclear program. They're overjoyed that Obama relieved sanctions against them. They'd love it if the US didn't have Israel's back. Iran cares deeply what the US supports, or "authorizes."

The P5 + 1 negotiation with Iran, the other 5 are just along for the ride at this point. They are wholly vested in what the US authorizes.

Even Putin cares that the US has not pushed for UN / NATO intervention in Ukraine. It makes what he's doing all that much easier.

Israel cares what the US authorizes.

Who doesn't care where the US stands on global issues? ISIS? Al-Queda? North Korea?

Where did you even come up with this idea that no one cares? It's absurd.

How reckless of you, to suggest we tell Israel to let loose the horror of war to eliminate their enemies, as if there is no alternative.

How bizarre that you say no one cares what the US authorizes, and in the same post decry that the US can't authorize Israel to go on the offensive.

Utterly disconnected from reality.

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Real - I understand - what you write (from your perspective) is absolute truth and wisdom.  What others write, especially if it disagrees with your "wisdom", is "SPIN".  It took me a while to figure that out - about ten seconds - but now I understand. [rofl]     [wave]  
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keepinitreal

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obama is the world agent assigned to help secure nuclear weapons for Iran. Everyone keeps skipping and dancing around the obvious.

Joisey tell us without resorting to your fairy tales, why the dems did not attend a full meeting of Congress? Was that no petulance? Describe it with your infinite wisdom? I assumed you could

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 How bizarre that you say no one cares what the US authorizes, and in the same post decry that the US can't authorize Israel to go on the offensive. Utterly disconnected from reality.


In your excitement, you seem to have misread my suggestion. I am not saying we should 'authorize' Israel to do anything. I'm saying I wish we would finally tell them that they are on their own to defend their country. 

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Early - do you not believe in having allies?  Should we have said the same to France and Britain in WWII?
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Early - do you not believe in having allies?  Should we have said the same to France and Britain in WWII?


A fair question. Strategically, I believe that our interests were substantial enough in WW2 to warrant bailing out those weaklings in Europe. Philosophically, of course having allies makes sense. As long as everyone at the table is bringing comparable things to the table. I think that, to some extent, our countries leaders like to be pre-occupied with other countries problems, so that they can justify ignoring our decaying infrastructure, economy, and vision.

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"What questions are not getting answered.  The only ones I see being avoided is "Why you switch from Dewey to Will I Wynn?"  and  "Why you switch from Bama_CF to Fresh?" and of course the best one that will never get answered, never in a million years... "When you bringing back KPI?"

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If Iran wipes Israel off the map, as they have sworn to do time and time and time again, will you say that protecting Israel wasn't substantial enough of an interest?

Your answer, that our leaders just like to look elsewhere while ignoring this country, is pretty simplistic in my view.

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If Iran wipes Israel off the map, as they have sworn to do time and time and time again, will you say that protecting Israel wasn't substantial enough of an interest?
Yes.

Your answer, that our leaders just like to look elsewhere while ignoring this country, is pretty simplistic in my view.

That's my I said 'to some extent'.

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"What questions are not getting answered.  The only ones I see being avoided is "Why you switch from Dewey to Will I Wynn?"  and  "Why you switch from Bama_CF to Fresh?" and of course the best one that will never get answered, never in a million years... "When you bringing back KPI?"

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Hey pabar, he's already said the genocide of 6 million jews was because they were weaklings. You are going to convince him that human life is important? Only weaklings are killed in war or beheaded, about as simplistic as you can get IMO
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If Iran wipes Israel off the map, as they have sworn to do time and time and time again, will you say that protecting Israel wasn't substantial enough of an interest?
Yes.

Your answer, that our leaders just like to look elsewhere while ignoring this country, is pretty simplistic in my view.

That's my I said 'to some extent'.


Wow - you are truly an incredibly bigoted person.  This is where liberals get caught in their own lack of principles.  Not a problem to see an entire race be exterminated (that's me interpreting your yes answer above) or babies being aborted by the thousands (i'm guessing you're a liberal and so you are probably pro-abortion), but if a cop roughs up a criminal or shoots him in self-defense, then all hell is broken loose.

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Hey pabar, he's already said the genocide of 6 million jews was because they were weaklings. You are going to convince him that human life is important? Only weaklings are killed in war or beheaded, about as simplistic as you can get IMO


Another excited poster goes to water. I said the Brits and the French were weaklings.

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If Iran wipes Israel off the map, as they have sworn to do time and time and time again, will you say that protecting Israel wasn't substantial enough of an interest?
Yes.

Your answer, that our leaders just like to look elsewhere while ignoring this country, is pretty simplistic in my view.

That's my I said 'to some extent'.


Wow - you are truly an incredibly bigoted person.  This is where liberals get caught in their own lack of principles.  Not a problem to see an entire race be exterminated (that's me interpreting your yes answer above) or babies being aborted by the thousands (i'm guessing you're a liberal and so you are probably pro-abortion), but if a cop roughs up a criminal or shoots him in self-defense, then all hell is broken loose.


Are you calling me a liberal?

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I'm calling you a troll. Sign in under your other handle
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Hey pabar, he's already said the genocide of 6 million jews was because they were weaklings. You are going to convince him that human life is important? Only weaklings are killed in war or beheaded, about as simplistic as you can get IMO


Another excited poster goes to water. I said the Brits and the French were weaklings.


No you didn't you said the Europeans were weaklings.  That included 6 million Jews and millions of other 'weaklings' that were killed.  I'm not excited, far from it troll.  You played your make believe agenda long enough

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Hey pabar, he's already said the genocide of 6 million jews was because they were weaklings. You are going to convince him that human life is important? Only weaklings are killed in war or beheaded, about as simplistic as you can get IMO


Another excited poster goes to water. I said the Brits and the French were weaklings.


No you didn't you said the Europeans were weaklings.  That included 6 million Jews and millions of other 'weaklings' that were killed.  I'm not excited, far from it troll.  You played your make believe agenda long enough


Sheesh you are confused sometimes. here is the thread...

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Early - do you not believe in having allies?  Should we have said the same to France and Britain in WWII?


A fair question. Strategically, I believe that our interests were substantial enough in WW2 to warrant bailing out those weaklings in Europe. Philosophically, of course having allies makes sense. As long as everyone at the table is bringing comparable things to the table. I think that, to some extent, our countries leaders like to be pre-occupied with other countries problems, so that they can justify ignoring our decaying infrastructure, economy, and vision.

"Those Weaklings" was a direct reference to Pabar's question as to whether I thought we should have said the same to FRANCE AND BRITAIN.

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Nowhere did YOU say England and France.  You said Europe weaklings.  There were other interests in Europe besides England and France, it's a big place.  YOU were specifically talking about OUR interests even if pabar was not. 

"Strategically, I believe that our interests were substantial enough in WW2 to warrant bailing out those weaklings in Europe."

What about eastern Europe?  Those Jews in Poland AND Germany were weaklings?  Quit flailing.  With your reasoning, those 3,000 in the WTC on 9/11 were weaklings.

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Real - I understand - what you write (from your perspective) is absolute truth and wisdom.  What others write, especially if it disagrees with your "wisdom", is "SPIN".  It took me a while to figure that out - about ten seconds - but now I understand. [rofl]     [wave]


Joisey, you have a Real good understanding, IMO!    [wink] 
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Here is a question to the board. With Iran all but asurred they will get enriched plutonium. They really dont need nuclear weapons but enough material to make dirty bombs (nuclear suitcases). How much material is needed as oppossed to a nuclear warhead. Take 100 of these dirty bombs and have terrorists or suicide bombers(nuclear suicide bombers) placed all around major cities. What you are looking at is world wide armageddon. They will eventually throw out all the inspectors like Saddam Hussain and North korea did. then its all hell breaks loose.
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