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ForeverInBlue

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Don't know who has been following Obama's effort to get a 'historic' agreement with Iran on their nuclear program, but here is a summary of where it stands as of now, after the extended talks ended recently without an agreement - basically Congress will likely pass a veto proof measure to further the sanctions pressure in Iran, reversing Obama's course of easing sanctions while getting nothing in return.

http://m.washingtonexaminer.com/article/2556710
ForeverInBlue

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More reading on Obama's dangerous dance with Iran. I can't see any upside here, unless I'm pro Iranian nuclear. Which means Saudi and the gulf states go nuclear.

Yeah, good job Obama. A nuclear Middle East. What a legacy this loser will have
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More reading on Obama's dangerous dance with Iran. I can't see any upside here, unless I'm pro Iranian nuclear. Which means Saudi and the gulf states go nuclear.

Yeah, good job Obama. A nuclear Middle East. What a legacy this loser will have


The link to what the Iranians think of the current situation.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/iran-americans-have-very-clearly-surrendered/
keepinitreal

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FIB isn't it funny how the nation is tuned into Ferguson. 

Iran, Russia and the southern border are not on the libtards radar this month

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ForeverInBlue

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Obama thinks giving Iran sanction relief is a good idea. So they can celebrate things like "Death to America" festivals.

He's a brilliant as old dog crap.

http://en.iranwire.com/features/6153/
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U.S. Accuses Iran of Secretly Breaching U.N. Nuclear Sanctions

Washington has evidence that Tehran is trying to buy new equipment for a key nuclear facility. But the White House isn't willing to say anything publicly about it.

http://foreignpolicy.com/2014/12/08/us-accuses-iran-of-secretly-breaking-un-nuclear-sanctions-exclusive/

Back when Obama wanted to get these negotiations started he was adamant that if Tehran didn't comply, he would be first in line asking for more sanctions. Turns out that's not the case. At all. In fact, Obama opposes any new sanctions against Iran.

Why anyone believed Obama at the time is beyond me. The man simply can't be honest. He's the ultimate "say anything" huckster.
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Obama's capitulation to Iran's nuclear program continues

http://m.weeklystandard.com/articles/caving-iran_823831.html

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Just as John Kerry was meeting with his Iranian counterpart Javad Zarif in Geneva last week as part of the ongoing negotiations over Iran’s nuclear program, Tehran announced it was building two new nuclear reactors in the Bushehr region. That’s perfectly okay, said the State Department, since that’s allowed under the Joint Plan of Action: They can build as many reactors as they want. It seems the Iranians can get away with a lot under the JPOA—the agreement reached in November 2013 that eased sanctions on Tehran—because the White House has hardly batted an eye over any of Iran’s actions.

Of course, the notion that it’s fine to build more reactors somewhat complicates the Obama administration’s claims that the agreement froze the Iranian nuclear program. But in the year since the interim agreement with Iran was signed, it’s become clear that the White House defines “froze” very flexibly. The agreement also acknowledges Iran’s right to enrich uranium. It allows Iran unlimited work on its plutonium reactor at Arak. It ignores Iran’s ballistic missile program. All this while the administration has provided sanctions relief that has rescued the Iranian economy and encouraged European businesses to seek opportunities in Iran.
Like any competent negotiator, Iran is employing a two-track policy—negotiating while it enhances its leverage by establishing facts on the ground. Why, on the other hand, is the Obama administration forfeiting what leverage it has?
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Obama thinks giving Iran sanction relief is a good idea. So they can celebrate things like "Death to America" festivals. He's a brilliant as old dog crap. http://en.iranwire.com/features/6153/


He threatened to veto new sanctions on Iran today

New sanctions against Iran could derail progress toward a comprehensive nuclear deal and heighten the chances of war, President Obama warned Friday.

Another lie, he said he was working to compromise to move the country along.  Now we are seeing the obstructionist was actually the puppetmaster obama, harry reid was just used as a ruse.  This president doesn't want compromise, that's why there will not be immigration reform either.  barack obama is anti-American.  No hyperbole, no vitriol, he is anti-American.  did I forget to mention he's an Muslim apologist?

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Sanctions don't work....The people of the country suffer, not the Government....There's a black market for anything, and everything......

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I see your point but Iran cannot possess nuclear weapons...I know you dislike the Jews but...
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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

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Israel has 'em....They can protect themselves......
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Menendez Stands Up to Obama on Iran. Will the GOP?


https://www.commentarymagazine.com/2015/01/16/menendez-stands-up-to-obama-on-iran-will-the-gop-sanctions-corker/

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"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Apparently Israel will stand up to Iran and it's offspring.

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2918478/Iran-Hezbollah-planning-imminent-joint-invasion-Israel-s-northern-Galilee-region-according-high-level-intelligence.html

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This is the real danger of Obama's Muslim coziness.  The Islamic terrorists know that Obama's heart is not in dealing with them (perhaps it's in aiding them).  They are free to perpetrate their evil without fear of reprisal from the U.S.
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Obama isn't trying to prevent Iran from going nuclear, he is only trying to delay them. And can't even get that deal done.

http://freebeacon.com/national-security/obama-administration-our-goal-is-not-to-eliminate-irans-nuke-program/
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Great week for the Supreme Leader
- Iran takes control of Yemen
- rival Saudi King dies
- Obama blocks sanctions

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Fatal Attraction
Why Obama’s push to build a legacy relationship with Iran is only going to end in heartache.


http://foreignpolicy.com/2015/01/21/fatal-attraction-obama-iran-nuclear-talks-sotu/?utm_content=buffer82e7a&utm_medium=social&utm_source=twitter.com&utm_campaign=buffer
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Absolute must-read to understand Obama's shift in US policy toward an alliance with Iran - and it's distrastous implications


America’s Silent Partnership With Iran And The Contest For Middle Eastern Order
Part One

https://medium.com/the-eastern-project/americas-silent-partnership-with-iran-and-the-contest-for-middle-eastern-order-part-one-bd83dec28905
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Great week for the Supreme Leader - Iran takes control of Yemen - rival Saudi King dies - Obama blocks sanctions


Are you talking about the Ayatollah or the Obama?

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Here's a good summary of the "Iran talks" and why it's time to ditch the whole mess. And yes, Obama's naive desperation is a factor.

http://nationalinterest.org/feature/enough-enough-time-ditch-the-iran-nuclear-talks-12173
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The Washington Post Editorial Board is extremely concerned about the terrible deal Obama is about to make with Iran.

And you should be too.

http://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/the-emerging-iran-nuclear-deal-raises-major-concerns-in-congress-and-beyond/2015/02/05/4b80fd92-abda-11e4-ad71-7b9eba0f87d6_story.html
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Excellent in-depth essay on the makings of Obama's alliance with Iran. Scary, if you're at all concerned about a nuclear Iran, as you should be.

http://mosaicmagazine.com/essay/2015/02/obamas-secret-iran-strategy/
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Nuclear Dreams : Iran now controls four Arab capitals, plus Washington DC

Iran's expansion to control the Middle East, with Obama's direct assistance



http://tabletmag.com/jewish-news-and-politics/188772/nuclear-dreams-lee-smith

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Jordan’s tribes are hardly alone at this moment in their torment and confusion. The United States has alienated its former Sunni tribal allies in Anbar province and throughout Iraq by conducting air strikes on behalf of sectarian Shiite militias loyal to Iran, which murder Sunni tribesmen with seeming impunity whether they are associated with IS or not. Saudi Arabia is aghast at U.S. support for Iran’s role in Yemen, where the Shia Houtha tribesmen backed by Iran now control the country. Israel nearly got into a shooting war last week because of Hezbollah’s ongoing attempt to implant itself on the Syrian side of the Golan Heights, where the Iranian-backed sectarian Lebanese Shia militia operates under cover of U.S. airstrikes and implicit political backing that support the regime of Bashar al-Assad, an Iranian client. While Egypt fights a war against IS and al-Qaida-backed tribes in Sinai, the White House shuns the country’s leader Gen. al-Sisi in favor of meeting in Washington with representatives of the Muslim Brotherhood, who have sworn to overthrow his regime.
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About those Tehran talking points

http://m.speaker.gov/general/about-those-talking-points-tehran

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With just weeks remaining until a key negotiating deadline, it’s becoming more and more clear that the concessions President Obama is offering to Iran – and the concessions he may yet offer to reach a final nuclear deal – would undermine American security and the security of our allies. Here at home there is growing bipartisan alarm as the White House pushes forward, seemingly desperate for a deal. On Friday the Washington Post editorial board expressed “major concerns” that “the administration now appears ready to accept an infrastructure of thousands of Iranian centrifuges” and willing “to concede Iran a place in Iraq, Syria, Lebanon and beyond over the objections of key allies.”

Obama wants a deal with Iran, but America can’t afford to ignore reality. Iran is a global menace. It sponsors terror, undermines its neighbors, still holds American hostages and is closer than ever to break-out nuclear capability. The administration needs to stop the concessions and stand strong for the American people, our allies, and all in the Middle East who want peace. - See more at: http://m.speaker.gov/general/about-those-talking-points-tehran#sthash.dZKWYZvN.dpuf
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FIB - If there are any members inside here qualified to negotiate nuclear deals with Iran, they're really wasting their time around here.
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FIB - If there are any members inside here qualified to negotiate nuclear deals with Iran, they're really wasting their time around here.


So we're not allowed to talk about it?  You're not qualified to talk about any of the subjects we discuss in here but it doesn't stop you.  What is the point of your comment?

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pabar - Who said nobody could talk about it.  Not me.  Actually, I was responding because I noticed few members are commenting on FIB's research and links.  My point was to say I'm guessing it's quite complex and few probably know what to say.  That's all.  Feel free to kick it back and forth all you want.  Please don't be so touchy.
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DBST LOL
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FIB - If there are any members inside here qualified to negotiate nuclear deals with Iran, they're really wasting their time around here.


So we're not allowed to talk about it?  You're not qualified to talk about any of the subjects we discuss in here but it doesn't stop you.  What is the point of your comment?

Just another passive aggressive dig.

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FIB - If there are any members inside here qualified to negotiate nuclear deals with Iran, they're really wasting their time around here.


So we're not allowed to talk about it?  You're not qualified to talk about any of the subjects we discuss in here but it doesn't stop you.  What is the point of your comment?
Just another passive aggressive dig.



spazsdad - I'll give you that one but if this isn't completely foolish, I don't know what is...

"Iran now controls four Arab capitals, plus Washington DC"

Just another knock at the POTUS but, that said, point taken.
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