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Fresh

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Cabinet members come and go. Aides come and go. Executive orders fail in court. Everybody begs him to stop the infernal Tweets. He lies. He assails senators and representatives that he needs to pass important legislation. Obamacare is still here. Mexico will never spend a cent on his ridiculous wall. The budget is, well, another failed effort. Tax cuts? Probably needed, but will never occur without bilateral support. Yeah, the democrats are dying to work with this idiot. But the faithful stay vigilant. It's a master plan that eventually will succeed in destroying the left wing socialist agenda. We just say stuff to get the left worked up. It's all code language. Really? Are you sh1tting me? Did it ever occur to you people that he might just be the narcissistic, self centered, moronic ass hole that by all outward appearances he is? There is no master plan. He is not some ass hole genius. He is a phuckup, plain and simple, let me repeat.....phuckup. The domestic plan is scary enough, but this moron in charge of our international diplomacy is downright terrifying. Stand back, look and get on board to put this phony where he belongs. Running one of his high rise hotels in New York. Get real folks.

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Still better for our country than hillary and Barry o
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The truth is, you WANT Bill to have raped her, so you believe it.
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Still better for our country than hillary and Barry o




Truly shows yours colors to think that.  During 8 years of President Obama:

-Same good job with good income
-My house appreciated in value
-My 401-K appreciated
-I have same doctors
-I have same excellent insurance
-20 million people have health insurance who did not before
-I pay the same % in federal taxes
-Same for groceries
-Less for gas
-Not in a major war
-Everyone in my family and friends and everyone I know has the same experiences as above. 


Those who hate Obama do so for your very own reasons, and those reasons are TALK, not actual impacts on YOUR real life.  

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How is the unemployment rate for minorities?

Income inequality for minorities.

I will take a President that does nothing over one that pushes us closer to socialism any day of the week.

Your racist dog whistles are funny - maybe some just don't like President Obama's substance.

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Truly shows yours colors to think that.  During 8 years of President Obama:

-Same good job with good income (Tell us how Obama was responsible for that)
-My house appreciated in value (Tell us how Obama was responsible for that)
-My 401-K appreciated (Tell us how Obama was responsible for that)
-I have same doctors (You're one of the lucky few)
-I have same excellent insurance (You're one of the lucky few - what happened to your premiums?)
-20 million people have health insurance who did not before (Due to mandates, not because they wanted it)
-I pay the same % in federal taxes (What about state and local taxes, the price of consumer goods that have had to absorb the cost of endless regulations)
-Same for groceries (Same as above)
-Less for gas (No thanks to Obama who has done what he can to reduce our energy independence)
-Not in a major war (Tell it to the 2,500 service members who died during the Obama admin)
-Everyone in my family and friends and everyone I know has the same experiences as above. (Because you are closed-minded, you only hang out with people who agree with you)


Those who hate Obama do so for your very own reasons, and those reasons are TALK, not actual impacts on YOUR real life.

This is tiresome.  We have proved with hard data so many times why Obama was horrible that it gets old.  You just weren't here.  That makes you, according to Obama, unworthy of commenting.

Under Obama,

Terrorism increased
Multiple terrorism acts in the U.S.
Loss of stature in the world
Rise of Iran - about to have nukes
Rise of North Korea - about to have nukes
Income inequality rose
Lowest participation rate in history
Doubled the national debt
Highest number of people on food stamps
Racial tensions at an all-time high

 
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How is the unemployment rate for minorities? Income inequality for minorities. I will take a President that does nothing over one that pushes us closer to socialism any day of the week. Your racist dog whistles are funny - maybe some just don't like President Obama's substance.




Yeah, that's probably why he was the only one to have his birthplace questioned, the only one to have a Congressman scream YOU LIE during his first State of the Union, the only one to have his wife called an ape, the only one to have many furious and resentful when he played golf or took his family on vacation to Martha's vineyard, the only one to have conservatives prefer the Russian dictator who is a mass murderer over him, the only one to have people mock a simple misspeak about "57 states" when he was referring to the 50 states plus DC and Guam and territories (all the entities that the DNC serves) while Trump shows multiple times a day he has far less intellect and the right gushes about him. Substance? Yeah right.

Occam's Razor says "Absent compelling evidence to the contrary, the truth is the one that makes the most common sense. Anyone with a lick of common sense can see that pure racial hate is what your side directed at President Obama. 

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You just proved my point. Exactly. Thank you. EVERY single one of those things are your PERCEPTIONS. Most of them are untrue. But none of them are hard facts which impacted YOUR LIFE. They are perceptions spread around by the right and their lies. 

Loss of stature in the world?  LOLOLOL   You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Both the leaders and the people in virtually every country in the world have enormous admiration for Obama, and they are sickened by the very sight of Trump - very much afraid of the dangerous ignorance and instability he brings. Get a clue next time you get ready to respond. 

President Obama left office with a 58% approval rating for a reason. 

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You just proved my point. Exactly. Thank you. EVERY single one of those things are your PERCEPTIONS. Most of them are untrue. But none of them are hard facts which impacted YOUR LIFE. They are perceptions spread around by the right and their lies. 

Loss of stature in the world?  LOLOLOL   You obviously have no idea what you are talking about. Both the leaders and the people in virtually every country in the world have enormous admiration for Obama, and they are sickened by the very sight of Trump - very much afraid of the dangerous ignorance and instability he brings. Get a clue next time you get ready to respond. 

President Obama left office with a 58% approval rating for a reason. 


Nice substance.  Everything I posted is easily proved with facts and data.
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Terrorism increased

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Multiple terrorism acts in the US

Ft. Hood
Boston
Orlando
San Bernardino


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Loss of stature in the world

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Rise of Iran and North Korea with nuclear capability almost achieved is inarguable.
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Income inequality rose

http://money.cnn.com/2016/12/22/news/economy/us-inequality-worse/index.html


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Lowest participation rate should have been lowest job participation rate.  Lots and lots of data to support this fact.
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Doubled the national debt.

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Food stamps all-time high.

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His response will be epic
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Uh oh. Statements backed up by facts. bamastrapon gonna drift away to another thread.
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Racial tensions at an all-time high.  I'll admit that this one is historically inaccurate.  I'll just say it's the worst it's been since the late 1960s.
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Come on guys. Stop with the facts. Don't you know it's all about the emotions that trigger you. Trying is what is important, not results. Virtue signaling without lifting a finger, other than to update your status. Railing against corporations except Apple and Starbucks.
When all else fails....muh Russians and muh racism

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Don't worry - Bama/KPI/Fresh is to facts as Dracula is to sunlight.  He/they are all gone from the thread.  You're right Spazs - it's all emotions with these leftists.  They wouldn't know a fact if it came up and lifted its leg on their yoga pants.
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Yeah, that's probably why he was the only one to have his birthplace questioned, the only one to have a Congressman scream YOU LIE during his first State of the Union, the only one to have his wife called an ape, the only one to have many furious and resentful when he played golf or took his family on vacation to Martha's vineyard, the only one to have conservatives prefer the Russian dictator who is a mass murderer over him, the only one to have people mock a simple misspeak about "57 states" when he was referring to the 50 states plus DC and Guam and territories (all the entities that the DNC serves) while Trump shows multiple times a day he has far less intellect and the right gushes about him. Substance? Yeah right.

Occam's Razor says "Absent compelling evidence to the contrary, the truth is the one that makes the most common sense. Anyone with a lick of common sense can see that pure racial hate is what your side directed at President Obama. 


Thanks again for provin who you are once again. I give you some substance after you finally were shamed into paying a bet, and you go and play the racial card.

It was fun embarrassing you - I'll let you go back to embarrassing yourself.

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Statistics are easily displayed to show your particular assumption. Nobody shows the statistics for the previous administration that put us in the worst economic situation since the depression. Predatory lending practices and greed put the finacial institutions on the brink of failure. I don't intend to answer your questions in one thread. I'll start a new thread for each of your assertions and probably depend on some third party assessments of what happened. I'm not an economist and will use this to educate myself as much as you. At my age, I don't retain specific stats and numbers as well as I used to and most of my musings are based on general experiences. 
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At my age, I don't retain specific stats and numbers as well as I used to and most of my musings are based on general experiences. 


Translation, he's slow and can't keep up and because he's lived it, it must be so

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Statistics are easily displayed to show your particular assumption.


That's the way it generally works

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"I like to establish the parameters of my own thoughts and don't think I need a director."

"This is not debate class. And this is not about politeness. We're talking about the damn future of our country"

"It is not just simply yelling out a name and yelling down dissenters........................... and I'll defend your right to even insult me" 
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Statistics are easily displayed to show your particular assumption. Nobody shows the statistics for the previous administration that put us in the worst economic situation since the depression. Predatory lending practices and greed put the finacial institutions on the brink of failure. I don't intend to answer your questions in one thread. I'll start a new thread for each of your assertions and probably depend on some third party assessments of what happened. I'm not an economist and will use this to educate myself as much as you. At my age, I don't retain specific stats and numbers as well as I used to and most of my musings are based on general experiences. 


Hey dumbass - every chart above precedes Obama.

You weren't here when we proved to Dewey that the economic situation you cite was started by Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd who used the cudgel of the federal government to force banks to make loans to people who couldn't afford them.  Then hedge funds got greedy.  Name one thing the Bush admin did that directly caused the economic collapse.
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That's the way it generally works


Poorly crafted on my part. My point was selecting the stats that support a position and ignoring those that are contrary is one way to distort the facts. A rise in people on food stamps, while one indicator, is not necessarily the key indicator when compared to other trends. 
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Hey dumbass - every chart above precedes Obama.

You weren't here when we proved to Dewey that the economic situation you cite was started by Barney Frank and Christopher Dodd who used the cudgel of the federal government to force banks to make loans to people who couldn't afford them.  Then hedge funds got greedy.  Name one thing the Bush admin did that directly caused the economic collapse.


Your use of invectives shows how Trump has influenced the right's answer to any point of opposition. Attack the messenger and then, not necessarily with fact, address the issue. On the whole, not a very productive methodology. Some may be intimidated by such rhetoric, but I am not. You will have a tough time putting me on the defensive like the pointless ramblings of KIR. 
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This was the norm in here far before Trump was a thing.  It was borne of Dewey's dishonest debating tactics.

Nonetheless, I see you also didn't respond to the substantive part of my response.
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Your use of invectives shows how Trump has influenced the right's answer to any point of opposition. Attack the messenger and then, not necessarily with fact, address the issue. On the whole, not a very productive methodology. Some may be intimidated by such rhetoric, but I am not. You will have a tough time putting me on the defensive like the pointless ramblings of KIR. 


dude stop, we don't even count your invectives any longer.  The last 24 hours you've used just as many as anyone else here, you're just not very good at it.  Get your blankie and juicebox and get your nap a little early today, you'll need it

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