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34sDad

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It's nice being able to follow games on TLN, but there's nothing prestigious telling friends and family they can see your kid play on a channel in to 600's.  SEC has a huge advantage over Texas in this sense.  Texas would do better recruiting wise with a Big 12 Network, but that would mean sharing revenue and that'll never happen.  
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"Just for clarification haven't most all of Connies pitchers been Texas pitchers (Cat, Luna, Davis, Fox, wright)?"

Yes they all came from Texas but that is about all the first 2 have in common with the last 3.
And remember Randi Rupp at Texas State is from Texas and she was 3-0 last year against the Longhorns. How does Texas State get one of the best pitchers in the state from UT. 


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"Just for clarification haven't most all of Connies pitchers been Texas pitchers (Cat, Luna, Davis, Fox, wright)?"

Yes they all came from Texas but that is about all the first 2 have in common with the last 3.
And remember Randi Rupp at Texas State is from Texas and she was 3-0 last year against the Longhorns. How does Texas State get one of the best pitchers in the state from UT. 




My point wasn't that they were necessarily good, but that she wasn't ignoring in state players for CA players.

And best I can tell Fox had a decent stay at TAMU.  I think Davis could've been there (she did take them to a regional final I believe her freshman year), but definitely not getting the best help.
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I'm still in shock Texas couldn't recruit Shannon Rhodes.
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I'm still in shock Texas couldn't recruit Shannon Rhodes.


didn't recruit is more accurate
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Man, seems like some folks will go to any length to slam the Big 12 conference and the schools it represents.  Is that what fans from the left and right coasts have been reduced to – using a TV viewership argument to somehow delegitimize the fact that the Big 12 has produced the top softball program in the nation three times in the last five years?

Unbelievable…and downright sad!
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<< Texas Gatorade player of the year, pitcher Casey Dixon, didn't go to Texas or A&M or Baylor.  She went to ULL.  How did that happen? >> (3lafturns)

There are some kids who WANT to play away from home.
Southie

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So, despite the Big 12 TV limitations being claimed, OU is still able to win national championships?
3leftturns

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Unless you know something about a WCWS site shift that the rest of us don't
Southie

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As a Florida resident, and a parent of a D1 softball player, trust me when I say that Walton can identify talent and usually gets whatever players he wants in this state. He has also shown that he isn't afraid to reach outside the state for special players like Lorenz and Barnhill, among others. There is absolutely no reason to believe that he would not be able to do the same at a school like Texas.

I certainly don't doubt that.  Same for Patty Gasso if she came to Texas.

But, I don't think either has any reason whatsoever to show an interest in the Texas job (if it were to become open) unless they are unhappy where they are, have connections to Texas, or will get a pay increase by leaving.
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Man, seems like some folks will go to any length to slam the Big 12 conference and the schools it represents.  Is that what fans from the left and right coasts have been reduced to – using a TV viewership argument to somehow delegitimize the fact that the Big 12 has produced the top softball program in the nation three times in the last five years?

Unbelievable…and downright sad!


I'm a pretty big fan of the Big 12, but the lack of TV coverage outside of Texas hurts the conference.  That doesn't take anything away from what Oklahoma has accomplished.  
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It will ALL be about the money. I think 800k would be a slam dunk.... 500k would be matched
HenryLouisAaron

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<< Man, seems like some folks will go to any length to slam the Big 12 conference and the schools it represents.  Is that what fans from the left and right coasts have been reduced to – using a TV viewership argument to somehow delegitimize the fact that the Big 12 has produced the top softball program in the nation three times in the last five years?
Unbelievable…and downright sad! >> (scrybe)


<< So, despite the Big 12 TV limitations being claimed, OU is still able to win national championships? >> (Southie)


+++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++++


Both of you guys have this all wrong.
What is really happening... is that these posters are pointing out just how GREAT Oklahoma is... 
by being able to continually win - WITHOUT a regular TV system covering their games.

Patty doesn't need some TV contract to get her players... 
or to get the national title... 
again  and  again  and again.
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Unless you know something about a WCWS site shift that the rest of us don't


I'm hearing they'll move this year's WCWS to the Willamette Valley. That should solve everyone's problem because, of course, with so little TV revenue to share, none of the Big 12 teams will be able to make the trip.
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Willamette Valley... Ohio valley... San Fernando valley...shark valley...
scrybe

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Willamette Valley... Ohio valley... San Fernando valley...shark valley...


Franke Valli?
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Franke Valli?
big girls don't cry....drop the mic with that MFer, scrybe!
HenryLouisAaron

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What about Rudy Vallee...?
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I don't know if Texas will make a move on Connie, but I am certainly more optimistic now that we have a new AD in place. Del Conte is unlike most AD's, as he truly listens to what fans want, and interacts with them on a very personable level, and fans are extremely tired of Connie's lackluster performance.

As a Florida resident, and a parent of a D1 softball player, trust me when I say that Walton can identify talent and usually gets whatever players he wants in this state. He has also shown that he isn't afraid to reach outside the state for special players like Lorenz and Barnhill, among others
florida has the ability to grab kids nationally for any sport
HenryLouisAaron

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Or The Big Valley...
from the mid-late 1960s...
Starring Barbara Stanwyck, Richard Long, Lee Majors, Peter Breck and Linda Evans.

And, yes... one of the key actors was actually named Dick Long.
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big girls don't cry....drop the mic with that MFer, scrybe!


You could always tell it to the rain, Lefty. [smile]
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It will ALL be about the money. I think 800k would be a slam dunk.... 500k would be matched


I'm not sure 800K wouldn't be matched.  UF is serious about their athletics and spending the money needed for success.
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My take (FWIW): Tim Walton is not becoming the UT coach. I believe the only job Walton **might** consider leaving UF for is located in Norman, OK. And that job's not presently open.

Fire away.
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I'm not sure 800K wouldn't be matched.  UF is serious about their athletics and spending the money needed for success.
depends how Seinfeldian the AD is about the UF athletic success
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My take (FWIW): Tim Walton is not becoming the UT coach. I believe the only job Walton **might** consider leaving UF for is located in Norman, OK. And that job's not presently open.

Fire away.


That seems limited.  I feel like his ears would perk with a UCLA or AZ opening, but not sure they can afford him.

It's not always about alumnae status.

Or are you just protesting because you want him when Patty retires?  I thought that was JT's for the taking?
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I'm a pretty big fan of the Big 12, but the lack of TV coverage outside of Texas hurts the conference.  That doesn't take anything away from what Oklahoma has accomplished.  

I have the SEC Network, the B1G Ten Network, the PAC Network, and the Longhorn Network.

LHN has already aired a few softball games LIVE this month.  If your cable provider offers LHN, you can also stream the broadcasts via WatchESPN.com.  The same with SECN.

How many softball games have the other networks aired on TELEVISION?  I'm not talking about simply streaming.  I haven't stumbled on any on TV; this time of year, they rightfully are airing men's and women's hoops, gymnastics, swimming, and maybe some other sports (wrestling, track & field, tennis).  EDIT:  I do recall PACN aired some games at Arizona State hosting a tourney.

As for the Big 12, OU, OSU, Baylor, and Texas Tech have TV contracts with FSN for softball.  Kansas, Kansas State, and Iowa State offer their games via internet premium subscriptions, I believe.

So, not sure what the problem is, other than your cable package does not include LHN.
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I'm hearing they'll move this year's WCWS to the Willamette Valley. That should solve everyone's problem because, of course, with so little TV revenue to share, none of the Big 12 teams will be able to make the trip.


Don't tell Jay about this. He'll be paying more than if he went to the Nutter this year to get to Willamette.

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big girls don't cry....drop the mic with that MFer, scrybe!


Valley of the Dolls?

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I'm a pretty big fan of the Big 12, but the lack of TV coverage outside of Texas hurts the conference.  That doesn't take anything away from what Oklahoma has accomplished.  


They could start by getting LHN on the Sling TV lineup, along with the rest of the ESPN family of channels (ESPN, ESPN2, ESPN3, ESPNU, SEC Network, ACC Network).
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That seems limited.  I feel like his ears would perk with a UCLA or AZ opening, but not sure they can afford him.

It's not always about alumnae status.

Or are you just protesting because you want him when Patty retires?  I thought that was JT's for the taking?


Not protesting anything, jay. Tim Walton is free to accept any coaching job he's offered. And, no, don't know where you got the news that Patty's son would be handed the job when Patty retires.  I believe the job goes to Missy Lombardi, if she wants it.

If Missy doesn't want to be a head coach, then perhaps Castiglione would contact Walton to gauge his interest. I have a feeling he would be interested, but I don't know that for sure.

Whatever the case, I feel confident that J.T. Gasso, who has absolutely no track record/experience as a head coach, would not be offered the job.
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