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Mark_H

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Mike Lotief said something I'm still studying the facets of. "It's amazing how much better it makes your hitters having a great pitcher on their side."

I think I'm up to over a half dozen and counting ways to interpret that.

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The moral of the story is that Spazdad is a bloody filthy SOB!

Awww. Love you too Boo.

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<< I always find it interesting when softball parents and coaches start preaching God and religion and spend every Sunday on the field instead of in church. >> (BStandby)

It is entirely possible to believe in God... and still play softball games on Sundays.
And, by the way, it's also quite possible to go to a church - and still play a softball game on the same day.
But, more importantly, one does not need to be in a church... to commune with God.
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<< I always find it interesting when softball parents and coaches start preaching God and religion and spend every Sunday on the field instead of in church. >> (BStandby)

It is entirely possible to believe in God... and still play softball games on Sundays.
And, by the way, it's also quite possible to go to a church - and still play a softball game on the same day.
But, more importantly, one does not need to be in a church... to commune with God.


Amen! So true.

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Fake news. Cat was not her pitching coach before TXST. My daughter and the Rupps played on the he same select team together. That was one of the reasons she came to TXST for the opportunity to work with a Cat.


Not quite. The Rupps had committed to TxState while Coach Osterman was still at St. Ed’s. They all came in together in 2014.
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Not quite. The Rupps had committed to TxState while Coach Osterman was still at St. Ed’s. They all came in together in 2014.


No, they all came in 2015 but Coach O was not her pitchng Coach before coming to TXST. Randi verbaled in August 2011.Rupp did sign before Coach O was announced as coming to TXST in the fall of 2014.
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Fake news. Cat was not her pitching coach before TXST. My daughter and the Rupps played on the he same select team together. That was one of the reasons she came to TXST for the opportunity to work with a Cat.


It was Francesca Enea on the ESPN+ broadcast during the game that said it.  Call her agent so she can rescind.
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Still can't score runs. Only three runs in three games the last two days.

I don't care if it's a nonrenewal, resignation, termination or retirement; it's time to move on from the Clark era.

https://texassports.com/news/2018/5...ds-with-a-3-0-loss-to-no-25-20-minnesota.aspx

Maybe these comments are more about more than the season:

"Tough to be done, obviously," Texas head coach Connie Clark said. "Team 2018 has really represented us very, very well. That's what we talked about in our postgame huddle, and you can't take anything away from them. We kept using the word 'opportunity' throughout the year. I felt like we were having a similar conversation tonight. I mean the opportunities were there for the taking in both games today. We can't hang our heads. This is a great group of young women, one of the best I've ever had in regards to being coachable and being a great family unit and playing for each other. It's just a joy to be around them each and every day. I'm just proud of them, and it's tough to be done."
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Connie's always seemed to be a good person, and she may be a better coach than she's given credit for. If she could only upgrade her recruiting, the Horns could be formidable.
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Texas has always had this idea that it’s supposed to be great in all sports programs, but the reality is that hasn’t been the case.

Yes, the state produces a lot of talent (football, baseball, basketball, softball, everything). It also has a lot of major college programs and programs in other states also recruit heavily there. Sure, you can pick 20 softball players from Texas scattered here and there and say ‘Well if Texas got these kids ...’ but is it realistic to think the Longhorns (in all sports) are going to identify the top players every time and also get each of those players?
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Texas has always had this idea that it’s supposed to be great in all sports programs, but the reality is that hasn’t been the case.
 

I can't speak for all Longhorns, but I think it's more that Texas has the resources to be great in all sports programs".   And, by that, I mean financial support, fan support, in-state recruiting base, etc.  What we haven't had is the right coaches, and it has taken too long to oust several of them.

This was the last season of Clark's contract.  Hope the decision has already been made that new blood is needed.
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I can't speak for all Longhorns, but I think it's more that Texas has the resources to be great in all sports programs".   And, by that, I mean financial support, fan support, in-state recruiting base, etc.  What we haven't had is the right coaches, and it has taken too long to oust several of them.

This was the last season of Clark's contract.  Hope the decision has already been made that new blood is needed.


The perception from the outside (and this comes from people who have been on the inside who have spoken over the decades) is that Texas’ biggest obstacle to success is meddling alum who think they ‘own’ the program and must constantly be appeased.

That’s not specific to softball, per se, but we know of cases where, say, a moderately successful (at best) football coach (or AD) gets to stay on years past his sell-by date because he has powerful friends and the AD doesn’t have the power to stand up to them. I’m given to understand that the AD has to spend way too much time keeping warring factions of boosters happy, which makes it harder to concentrate on the actual job of running the department.

I’m sure you’re aware of cases where this fat-cat has decided so-and-so should be the next football coach or AD and goes rogue and tries to make it happen.

Texas needs strong leadership and has lacked it for a long time. It may be impossible with the entitlement that comes with oil money boosters.
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Will Osterman's blood do?
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Will Osterman's blood do?


That’s the kind of thing Texas would do.

Nothing against Cat, but what makes her more qualified than RIcci Woodard, her boss, who has almost two decades of head coaching experience vs. Cat’s few years as an assistant?

Nothing against Cat, but if Texas sees itself as a program that should be elite, is that a learn-on-the-job head coaching position? Would hiring a popular alum vs. whoever the best possible candidate is (throw Gasso money at Mike White or TIm Walton, etc.) = commitment to putting together the best possible program to win championships and elevate to that level as quickly as possible?

To me, that would be the most Texas thing to do. Make the hire that would please the alums and boosters, rather than shooting for the stars and trying to get the best possible, proven coach.
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You mean kinda like helicopter parents...
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Would be interesting to see the salaries of the head coaches leading Top 25 programs versus what Connie is earning.  To me, if a new hire needs to be made, it will come from the PAC or SEC; money will have to be spent to lure them away.  I wonder if Florida's pitching coach has dreams of leading her own program .  . .
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Would be interesting to see the salaries of the head coaches leading Top 25 programs versus what Connie is earning.  To me, if a new hire needs to be made, it will come from the PAC or SEC; money will have to be spent to lure them away.  I wonder if Florida's pitching coach has dreams of leading her own program .  . .


Jen Rocha would be a terrible hire. As an avid softball fan, as well as a parent of a current D1 player, Texas needs a Coach who instantly has credibility in the travel ball world. There are 10-12 travel programs in this country that consistently produce the top talent for these upper echelon programs. Texas needs to steal a Tim Walton from Florida or Glenn Moore from Baylor, or nab a big time up and comer like Pete D’amour.
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Jen Rocha would be a terrible hire. As an avid softball fan, as well as a parent of a current D1 player, Texas needs a Coach who instantly has credibility in the travel ball world. There are 10-12 travel programs in this country that consistently produce the top talent for these upper echelon programs. Texas needs to steal a Tim Walton from Florida or Glenn Moore from Baylor, or nab a big time up and comer like Pete D’amour.


JMO, but I don't know that "Gasso money" gets Walton to Austin. I mean, it's a lateral move at best, filled with tough recruiting challenges. Maybe he would do it for the challenge if he was restless at UF. Is he?

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Jen Rocha would be a terrible hire.

Do you say that because she hasn’t been a head coach yet?
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That’s the kind of thing Texas would do.

Nothing against Cat, but what makes her more qualified than RIcci Woodard, her boss, who has almost two decades of head coaching experience vs. Cat’s few years as an assistant?

Nothing against Cat, but if Texas sees itself as a program that should be elite, is that a learn-on-the-job head coaching position? Would hiring a popular alum vs. whoever the best possible candidate is (throw Gasso money at Mike White or TIm Walton, etc.) = commitment to putting together the best possible program to win championships and elevate to that level as quickly as possible?

To me, that would be the most Texas thing to do. Make the hire that would please the alums and boosters, rather than shooting for the stars and trying to get the best possible, proven coach.


I would hate the idea of Mike White leaving Oregon, but what he does with lower-recruited pitching talent.... and also how he is willing to work harder and turn over rocks all over this country for talent and gets zero in-state pipeline currently, the money would be better spent to get him ahead of anyone else
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I doubt coaches like White or Walton would leave for financial reasons as I expect their current AD would match any offer any other AD was offering to lure them away.  So, there would have to be some other intangible reason (like wanting to live in a different part of the country, family connections, etc.) for them to leave.

So, realistically, I'm not considering them as candidates to succeed Clark.

Alabama's head coach almost left for LSU a few years ago, so maybe he isn't completely happy in Tuscaloosa.
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Prowler, Will Mark Lumley do?
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One thing that Texas can do is out pay the competition. If Del Conte zeroes in on someone, he can certainly money whip the right candidate. I think the best young coach right now is D’amour at Kennesaw State. He would be much cheaper than the big name coaches and would bring tremendous energy to the program.
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They get pitching, and they will never miss a supers again
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One thing that Texas can do is out pay the competition. If Del Conte zeroes in on someone, he can certainly money whip the right candidate. I think the best young coach right now is D’amour at Kennesaw State. He would be much cheaper than the big name coaches and would bring tremendous energy to the program.

That used to be mindset in the past, but with all the TV revenue most schools are generating, it's no longer easy to outbid other schools for their head coaches.

Texas found that out the hard way a couple of years ago when we were trying to hire Augie Garrido's (R.I.P.) replacement for our storied baseball program; lots of Texas fans and media folks felt Texas could lure away anyone it wanted based on salary and Texas' rich baseball history.  Texas got a big dose of reality when Florida's Kevin O'Sullivan and Vanderbilt's Tim Corbin said "no, thanks".  We ended up "settling" for a head coach from Tulane, which was a big slice of humble pie for many Longhorn fans.

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Alabama's head coach almost left for LSU a few years ago, so maybe he isn't completely happy in Tuscaloosa.


Pretty demanding fan base.

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Alabama's head coach almost left for LSU a few years ago, so maybe he isn't completely happy in Tuscaloosa.


Well, that was now 7 years ago...a bit more than a 'few.'  I would be shocked if Murphy left UAT at this point.

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Well, the SEC programs have definitely made a commitment to women's softball.  So, I just doubt that in this day and age, any SEC school will be outbid for a head coach they want to retain.

That being said, the PAC (in most sports) does not have the reputation for paying their head coaches very well.  There have been several articles recently about how the conference is not generating the revenue expected and lags behind the other four major conferences.  I also recall that the California system of universities had/has its own financial issues.   Perhaps the PAC schools are more susceptible to not shelling out the bucks to counter an offer for one of its softball head coaches; I really like what Trisha Ford has done at ASU in just two seasons.  Maybe UCLA asst. coach Lisa Fernandez wants to lead her own program; but, since she's been an assistant at UCLA for like 20 years, maybe not.
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Well, the SEC programs have definitely made a commitment to women's softball.  So, I just doubt that in this day and age, any SEC school will be outbid for a head coach they want to retain.

That being said, the PAC (in most sports) does not have the reputation for paying their head coaches very well.  There have been several articles recently about how the conference is not generating the revenue expected and lags behind the other four major conferences.  I also recall that the California system of universities had/has its own financial issues.   Perhaps the PAC schools are more susceptible to not shelling out the bucks to counter an offer for one of its softball head coaches; I really like what Trisah Ford has done at ASU in just two seasons.  Maybe UCLA asst. coach Lisa Fernandez wants to lead her own program; but, since she's been an assistant at UCLA for like 20 years, maybe not.



Fernandez will never leave UCLA, neither would Perez.  Would you believe this was KIP's 2013 salary?


Kelly Inouye-Perez 
INTERCOL ATH HEAD COACH EX

Regular pay:$113,500.00
Overtime pay:$0.00
Other pay:$13,949.00
Total pay:$127,449.00
Total benefits:$30,478.00
Total pay & benefits:$157,927.00
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The perception from the outside (and this comes from people who have been on the inside who have spoken over the decades) is that Texas’ biggest obstacle to success is meddling alum who think they ‘own’ the program and must constantly be appeased.
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If some entitled alum is meddling with Connie... well then they aren't very good at meddling.

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