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AustinSoftball

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When will Texas fire its first softball coach.  4-4 record.  No offense.  Limited pitching.  UW will run rule them if the rain does not end up cancelling the game.  Weird recruiting, and a hitting coach who undoes successful hitting.  Great complex and university waiting for a 21st Century staff.
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I think they will offer someone $800K this offseason
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And I think Baylor and Coach Moore in the recent years, has taken it to Texas....It's been the Baylor show.....
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Texas needs help if they want to get back in the conversation....  
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They will not spend money on the top recruits. They try to get everyone on the cheap because of course they are Texas so they dont have to give anyone a big deal. They have always operated like that.  
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And I think Baylor and Coach Moore in the recent years, has taken it to Texas....It's been the Baylor show.....
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Yep, it's been quite the **Baylor** show in the Big 12. [rofl]
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I think they will offer someone $800K this offseason


Why?  Do they need to?  I can think of 5 top 10 coaches who would jump for $500,000.
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You may be right
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You may be right


I mean I can take a guess at what/who your original post was referencing, but to me it's just as valid to offer $500,000 to White or Tarr or even Alameda.
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For sure....

 

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i'll jump for $800,000 not sure about 500,000. with incentives and a car and house, moped, and texas oil
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They need to go ahead and throw a cool million at Tim Walton. I truly believe Texas is the only school that he would leave Florida for. As a lifelong Longhorn fan, I was hoping this move would have been made several years ago. Connie Clark has done less, with more, than any coach in the country....regardless of sport.
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Why don't they get Earleywine, he is available now....
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They need to go ahead and throw a cool million at Tim Walton. I truly believe Texas is the only school that he would leave Florida for. As a lifelong Longhorn fan, I was hoping this move would have been made several years ago. Connie Clark has done less, with more, than any coach in the country....regardless of sport.


Really think Walton would leave UF to take on a major rebuilding job and change the culture of entitlement at UT?

Please don't take offense, but if I'm not mistaken, Tim really has no connections to Texas.  He's a California native who transferred to OU and played on a national championship baseball team.  Coached four seasons under Gasso and eventually was hired by Florida. The man's a legend at UF, where's he's won two WCWS titles.

You might be right about UT being able to woo Walton away from Gainesville. I know, or at least I'm told, that everyone wants to live in Austin. But there's a reason Clark has been unable to catch lightning in a bottle and keep the Horns program at the top.
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Really think Walton would leave UF to take on a major rebuilding job and change the culture of entitlement at UT?

Please don't take offense, but if I'm not mistaken, Tim really has no connections to Texas.  He's a California native who transferred to OU and played on a national championship baseball team.  Coached four seasons under Gasso and eventually was hired by Florida. The man's a legend at UF, where's he's won two WCWS titles.

You might be right about UT being able to woo Walton away from Gainesville. I know, or at least I'm told, that everyone wants to live in Austin. But there's a reason Clark has been unable to catch lightning in a bottle and keep the Horns program at the top.


Yes, he'd leave for UT, but I'm sure there'd be some caveats and some major money involved.  I think you could get reasonably equivalent coaches without those caveats and without the money burden.

As for your last statement, yeah there is a reason ... she's not a good coach. Any above average coach (and recruiter) with the talent in the state of Texas should be able to beat both Colorado State and/or Wisconsin.  
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Why don't they get Earleywine, he is available now....


Or Clint.
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 As for your last statement, yeah there is a reason ... she's not a good coach.  


LOL. Then perhaps there are multiple reasons.
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I wonder how twerpalum would explain this former pitching star's failure to translate to coaching?
Tennhorn

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Connie is a BAD coach, and a LAZY recruiter. Texas softball is not a total rebuild. The next coach will walk in with an enormous recruiting budget, top notch facilities, fertile recruiting grounds, and the city of Austin as a draw. He/She should be able to turn the program around in only a couple of years, it only takes one dominant pitcher to make a team immediately competitive, and there are several really good pitchers coming out of that state every year.
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Yes, he'd leave for UT, but I'm sure there'd be some caveats and some major money involved.  I think you could get reasonably equivalent coaches without those caveats and without the money burden.

As for your last statement, yeah there is a reason ... she's not a good coach. Any above average coach (and recruiter) with the talent in the state of Texas should be able to beat both Colorado State and/or Wisconsin.  


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Connie is a BAD coach, and a LAZY recruiter. Texas softball is not a total rebuild. The next coach will walk in with an enormous recruiting budget, top notch facilities, fertile recruiting grounds, and the city of Austin as a draw. He/She should be able to turn the program around in only a couple of years, it only takes one dominant pitcher to make a team immediately competitive, and there are several really good pitchers coming out of that state every year.


The state of Texas is obviously home to several really good high school players/pitchers. That alone does not, however, guarantee that all or even most of them are standing in line to play for the University of Texas.  UT has for many years been blessed with the advantages you mentioned in your post. But how many national titles has it earned them in the high profile sports?

I do believe a coach like Tim Walton could, and likely would, turn things around for UT softball. But he's not going to have his choice of all the good players coming out of that state. Just as many, if not more, of the top players will choose to play for Gasso or Glenn Moore. Many others will choose to play for aTm or other schools in the SEC.
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I guess, I will have to respectfully disagree. Tim Walton at Texas, would have kids in that state lined up to play there. Glenn Moore is a great coach, but he is not stealing away talent to Waco, Texas if Walton is in Austin.....Not that it really matters anyway, as Connie Clark seems to have nine lives.
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The state of Texas is obviously home to several really good high school players/pitchers. That alone does not, however, guarantee that all or even most of them are standing in line to play for the University of Texas.  UT has for many years been blessed with the advantages you mentioned in your post. But how many national titles has it earned them in the high profile sports?

I do believe a coach like Tim Walton could, and likely would, turn things around for UT softball. But he's not going to have his choice of all the good players coming out of that state. Just as many, if not more, of the top players will choose to play for Gasso or Glenn Moore. Many others will choose to play for aTm or other schools in the SEC.


Not true. Walton would have the first pick and he’d lock it down tight. He surely wouldn’t let TAMU have Show or Bama have Littlejohn. Just ask FSU how he’s affected their recruiting.

And wouldn’t Gasso have to leave CA to recruit players from TX?
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Not sure why anyone thinks UT has top notch facilities? Their stadium is a dump and it's across the freeway from campus in a bad neighborhood. Drive up north to Waco if you want to see a top notch facility. 

Connie is lazy...that is an understatement. She has very few ties to the Texas Travelball scene. She "big-times" the best programs in the state. Just look at her roster. She hangs in Calif and brings back their 2nd/3rd tier kids.

Baylor has been whipping them in the state of Texas.

Also look at TAMU, almost all Texas girls. They are one of the top programs in the country year in and year out. Just wait til the new stadium is done at TAMU. It's beautiful. They will continue to win the recruiting battles in Texas.

UT needs more than a coach.
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Not true. Walton would have the first pick and he’d lock it down tight. He surely wouldn’t let TAMU have Show or Bama have Littlejohn. Just ask FSU how he’s affected their recruiting. And wouldn’t Gasso have to leave CA to recruit players from TX?


C'mon, jayrot, you're better than that.

Patty Gasso can recruit (and sign) players from most any state she chooses.
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C'mon, jayrot, you're better than that.

Patty Gasso can recruit (and sign) players from most any state she chooses.


Didn't say she couldn't. It's just not her MO.

Ok I stand corrected. Gasso has 1 Player from TX.
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Not sure why anyone thinks UT has top notch facilities? Their stadium is a dump and it's across the freeway from campus in a bad neighborhood. Drive up north to Waco if you want to see a top notch facility. 

Connie is lazy...that is an understatement. She has very few ties to the Texas Travelball scene. She "big-times" the best programs in the state. Just look at her roster. She hangs in Calif and brings back their 2nd/3rd tier kids.

Baylor has been whipping them in the state of Texas.

Also look at TAMU, almost all Texas girls. They are one of the top programs in the country year in and year out. Just wait til the new stadium is done at TAMU. It's beautiful. They will continue to win the recruiting battles in Texas.

UT needs more than a coach.


Just for clarification haven't most all of Connies pitchers been Texas pitchers (Cat, Luna, Davis, Fox, wright)?

So I crunched the numbers (lol): Texas has 5 CA players and OU has 10 CA players. Not sure we can paint Connie as someone stuck in CA.
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Texas Gatorade player of the year, pitcher Casey Dixon, didn't go to Texas or A&M or Baylor.  She went to ULL.  How did that happen?
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I mean I can take a guess at what/who your original post was referencing, but to me it's just as valid to offer $500,000 to White or Tarr or even Alameda.


I don't think Tarr wants to leave UW anytime soon.
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I don't think Tarr wants to leave UW anytime soon.


Possibly true, but things happen when you can in essence double your salary.
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Texas Gatorade player of the year, pitcher Casey Dixon, didn't go to Texas or A&M or Baylor.  She went to ULL.  How did that happen?


Well with virtually a 5 ERA is this a good or a bad thing?  When your ERA goes down/stays the same  by holding Florida to 2 runs in 3.1 innings, not sure that's a good thing.
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